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Eahland wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
And they expect the community to respect them when they make comments like this?

They don't want the community's respect. They want their fear.

And it’s not succeeding. I wonder how many of these officers live in the city instead of retreating to their cookie cutter housing in a suburb with green lawns every night.

Corrian wrote:So the Chicago Police Union is basically saying 800-1,000 of their officers will quit if their preferred candidate doesn't win

Threatening to basically kneecap the police department if they don't get their way? One, thanks for threatening me with a good time. Two, that doesn't seem very democratic.

I remember in 2016 someone said if Hilary got elected there'd be taco trucks on every corner and that sounded so awesome it was hard to understand that was said by someone trying to get people to vote for Trump.

Oh, okay. It's not the union itself saying it, it's their blowhard of a representative whose resignation letter when he quite the police force included "Let's Go Brandon" and thinks Jan 6 was a gentle site seeing tour by citizens with legitimate concerns.

Still, there is nothing quite like Chicago’s relationship with the Fraternal Order of Police, especially with its president, John Catanzara, who expressed sympathies for the rioters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, called Muslims “savages” who “all deserve a bullet” and retired from the police force in 2021 rather than face potential disciplinary actions. He punctuated his retirement papers with a handwritten note, “Finally!!! Let’s go Brandon,” a stand-in phrase for a more vulgar insult against President Biden.
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Mr. Catanzara’s Facebook post about Muslims has been a talking point in the multicultural quarters of this racially, ethnically and religiously diverse metropolis. And Johnson campaign workers are quick to link Mr. Vallas to the extended comments that Mr. Catanzara made to a Chicago public radio reporter about the Capitol rioters, which included, “There was no arson, there was no burning of anything, there was no looting, there was very little destruction of property. It was a bunch of pissed-off people that feel an election was stolen, somehow, some way.”

But then is shocked...SHOCKED people might say he's racist...

“When they talk about the F.O.P., they’re talking about me, which is hilarious,” Mr. Catanzara said in an interview, conceding, “If I got paid a dollar every time I was called a racist, I’d be an independently wealthy man.”

That'd be quite the racket to collect a dollar for being called something and then speak and act like that at much as humanly possible.
Taking all that in and considering that he's an outspoken Trump supporter, the way he makes this 'prediction' sounds a little awkwardly familiar...

Mr. Catanzara is not lying low. He predicted that 800 to 1,000 Chicago police officers would leave the force if Mr. Johnson wins, adding to hundreds of vacancies already awaiting the next mayor.

“If this guy gets in we’re going to see an exodus like we’ve never seen before,” he said, predicting “blood in the streets.”

Mr. Catanzara was particularly hard on the teachers union and its “Manchurian candidate.”

“They’re definitely pushing all their chips into the pot here,” he said.

Last bit:

As for those who cast him as a bigoted bomb thrower, Mr. Catanzara just waved his hands. “I don’t waste my breath with them,” he said. “Like I tell everyone, read the book, not the cover.”

Holy shit, shoot all Muslims was just the cover?

San Lumen wrote:

Eahland wrote:They don't want the community's respect. They want their fear.

And it’s not succeeding. I wonder how many of these officers live in the city instead of retreating to their cookie cutter housing in a suburb with green lawns every night.

All of them. It's a legal requirement.

Eahland wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
And it’s not succeeding. I wonder how many of these officers live in the city instead of retreating to their cookie cutter housing in a suburb with green lawns every night.

All of them. It's a legal requirement.

All cities should have that requirement.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:

Corrian wrote:So the Chicago Police Union is basically saying 800-1,000 of their officers will quit if their preferred candidate doesn't win

Threatening to basically kneecap the police department if they don't get their way? One, thanks for threatening me with a good time. Two, that doesn't seem very democratic.

I remember in 2016 someone said if Hilary got elected there'd be taco trucks on every corner and that sounded so awesome it was hard to understand that was said by someone trying to get people to vote for Trump.

Oh, okay. It's not the union itself saying it, it's their blowhard of a representative whose resignation letter when he quite the police force included "Let's Go Brandon" and thinks Jan 6 was a gentle site seeing tour by citizens with legitimate concerns.

Still, there is nothing quite like Chicago’s relationship with the Fraternal Order of Police, especially with its president, John Catanzara, who expressed sympathies for the rioters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, called Muslims “savages” who “all deserve a bullet” and retired from the police force in 2021 rather than face potential disciplinary actions. He punctuated his retirement papers with a handwritten note, “Finally!!! Let’s go Brandon,” a stand-in phrase for a more vulgar insult against President Biden.
...
Mr. Catanzara’s Facebook post about Muslims has been a talking point in the multicultural quarters of this racially, ethnically and religiously diverse metropolis. And Johnson campaign workers are quick to link Mr. Vallas to the extended comments that Mr. Catanzara made to a Chicago public radio reporter about the Capitol rioters, which included, “There was no arson, there was no burning of anything, there was no looting, there was very little destruction of property. It was a bunch of pissed-off people that feel an election was stolen, somehow, some way.”

But then is shocked...SHOCKED people might say he's racist...

“When they talk about the F.O.P., they’re talking about me, which is hilarious,” Mr. Catanzara said in an interview, conceding, “If I got paid a dollar every time I was called a racist, I’d be an independently wealthy man.”

That'd be quite the racket to collect a dollar for being called something and then speak and act like that at much as humanly possible.
Taking all that in and considering that he's an outspoken Trump supporter, the way he makes this 'prediction' sounds a little awkwardly familiar...

Mr. Catanzara is not lying low. He predicted that 800 to 1,000 Chicago police officers would leave the force if Mr. Johnson wins, adding to hundreds of vacancies already awaiting the next mayor.

“If this guy gets in we’re going to see an exodus like we’ve never seen before,” he said, predicting “blood in the streets.”

Mr. Catanzara was particularly hard on the teachers union and its “Manchurian candidate.”

“They’re definitely pushing all their chips into the pot here,” he said.

Last bit:

As for those who cast him as a bigoted bomb thrower, Mr. Catanzara just waved his hands. “I don’t waste my breath with them,” he said. “Like I tell everyone, read the book, not the cover.”

Holy shit, shoot all Muslims was just the cover?

Thanks for that.

The city should call the bluff. If they quit; block them from rehire. Catanzara needs to go.

I remember the taco truck comments. The trumpests my way were horrified when I thought that was a cool idea.

Hot take: Attacks on trans rights are just attacks on women's rights in general.

North Jus Intius wrote:Hot take: Attacks on trans rights are just attacks on women's rights in general.

I mean, I agree the anti-transgender scare is centered around trans women, but I don’t know whether or not conservatives genuinely perceive trans women as men.

And on the legal side, most of the legislation isn’t gender-based.

Uiiop wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
Is the state going to be requesting medical records whenever someone leaves the state or visit the doctors office? I don't see how this is enforceable or constitutional.

Medical records can given by app companies without an warrant.

HIPPA makes that info available over payment.

The states can’t force a doc to hand over information on abortion….

El Lazaro wrote:

North Jus Intius wrote:Hot take: Attacks on trans rights are just attacks on women's rights in general.

I mean, I agree the anti-transgender scare is centered around trans women, but I don’t know whether or not conservatives genuinely perceive trans women as men.

And on the legal side, most of the legislation isn’t gender-based.

Trans people in general are judged nearly entirely by how well they "pass", as far as conservatives go. So it's sort of a grey area on both sides as far as the big picture is concerned. The entire strategy is just by the book fascist salami slicing. They intend to revoke the rights of the smallest group, then the next smallest group, and so on. Our democracy is under direct attack. Study the rise of fascism in the 20s and 30s

The Black Forrest wrote:

Uiiop wrote:Medical records can given by app companies without an warrant.

HIPPA makes that info available over payment.

The states can’t force a doc to hand over information on abortion….

That fancy thing got my friend kicked out of our EMS internship. HIPPA's no joke.

Northern Seleucia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
HIPPA makes that info available over payment.

The states can’t force a doc to hand over information on abortion….

That fancy thing got my friend kicked out of our EMS internship. HIPPA's no joke.

Yep.

Archinstinct wrote:

Northern Seleucia wrote:That fancy thing got my friend kicked out of our EMS internship. HIPPA's no joke.

Yep.

I fear no man.

But that thing

It scares me.

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Is it time for the USians to restrict access to automatic and semi-automatic genders?

Oh lets not bait with the USian bullshit again.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Is it time for the USians to restrict access to automatic and semi-automatic genders?

Oh lets not bait with the USian bullshit again.

The heck does that even mean?

North Jus Intius wrote:

El Lazaro wrote:I mean, I agree the anti-transgender scare is centered around trans women, but I don’t know whether or not conservatives genuinely perceive trans women as men.

And on the legal side, most of the legislation isn’t gender-based.

Trans people in general are judged nearly entirely by how well they "pass", as far as conservatives go. So it's sort of a grey area on both sides as far as the big picture is concerned. The entire strategy is just by the book fascist salami slicing. They intend to revoke the rights of the smallest group, then the next smallest group, and so on. Our democracy is under direct attack. Study the rise of fascism in the 20s and 30s

Haven't you heard? We can't call things out as fascism until the camps are built and the ovens fired, otherwise alllll the pearls would be clutched...

Northern Seleucia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh lets not bait with the USian bullshit again.

The heck does that even mean?

USian?

Awhile back we have a Swedish member who decided to “crusade” over the Americans using American since it did not include the other countries in North, Central and South America.

Others jumped on it and said things like it was arrogance to call yourselves Americans; never mind the fact Canadians and Mexicans didn’t care.

It’s just a petty comment meant to bait…..

North Jus Intius wrote:Hot take: Attacks on trans rights are just attacks on women's rights in general.

A lot of anti-trans stuff focuses on misogyny, it's true, but there's a whole other realm to it as well (remember trans men + non-binary people exist). Don't get it twisted.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Seleucia wrote:The heck does that even mean?

USian?

Awhile back we have a Swedish member who decided to “crusade” over the Americans using American since it did not include the other countries in North, Central and South America.

Others jumped on it and said things like it was arrogance to call yourselves Americans; never mind the fact Canadians and Mexicans didn’t care.

It’s just a petty comment meant to bait…..

Ah. Sounds cringe as hell.

Carry on, I need to sleep

Northern Seleucia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
USian?

Awhile back we have a Swedish member who decided to “crusade” over the Americans using American since it did not include the other countries in North, Central and South America.

Others jumped on it and said things like it was arrogance to call yourselves Americans; never mind the fact Canadians and Mexicans didn’t care.

It’s just a petty comment meant to bait…..

Ah. Sounds cringe as hell.

Carry on, I need to sleep

Good night!

The Black Forrest wrote:

Northern Seleucia wrote:The heck does that even mean?

USian?

Awhile back we have a Swedish member who decided to “crusade” over the Americans using American since it did not include the other countries in North, Central and South America.

Others jumped on it and said things like it was arrogance to call yourselves Americans; never mind the fact Canadians and Mexicans didn’t care.

It’s just a petty comment meant to bait…..

What's funny is that the full name of Mexico is the United States of Mexico.

Northern Seleucia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh lets not bait with the USian bullshit again.

The heck does that even mean?

Because the United States of America is but one of the three countries in North America (I may have just failed geography, but I assume everything south of Mexico is Central America)...and there is a Central America and a South America all of which are chock full of countries, some people have gotten it into their heads that the United States of America, or coequally 'America' whose citizens are referred to as "Americans" robs all the other countries of the two separate continents their identities as countries on one of the two American continents.

As such, they offer the linguistically clumsy USians. Since they're picking nits, however, the full name (translated) of Mexico is the United States of Mexico, so now we're robbing any other nation of their identity as a collection of united states.

It is a Super Serious concern held by basically no one. Brazil is not worried you won't know they're in South America because people call the yahoos taking up the middle of North America 'Americans'. More to the point there is no 'America' continent, there's the two separate ones, north and south.

But, it riles up some Americans to insist they should be called the linguistically clumsy and kind of unpronounceable 'USians.' Since no one actually gives a shit it's most often used not by people from other countries in the Americas but by people in Europe who have discovered that Americans are easy to trigger even if they're the ones who complain about people being 'triggered'.

Ultimately, countries in different languages call other countries all kinds of shit. I call Deutschland Germany I think China calls us something kingdom and we don't even have a king. Probably a translation error. So if someone in the internet wants to make their stand by insisting on calling us USians, who cares. It's not going to catch on, and it's like putting a little flag on that poster's posts, "I'm that guy." It's best ignored because honestly who cares what we're called. We're a mutt nation.

Northern Seleucia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
USian?

Awhile back we have a Swedish member who decided to “crusade” over the Americans using American since it did not include the other countries in North, Central and South America.

Others jumped on it and said things like it was arrogance to call yourselves Americans; never mind the fact Canadians and Mexicans didn’t care.

It’s just a petty comment meant to bait…..

Ah. Sounds cringe as hell.

Carry on, I need to sleep

Umeria wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:USian?

Awhile back we have a Swedish member who decided to “crusade” over the Americans using American since it did not include the other countries in North, Central and South America.

Others jumped on it and said things like it was arrogance to call yourselves Americans; never mind the fact Canadians and Mexicans didn’t care.

It’s just a petty comment meant to bait…..

What's funny is that the full name of Mexico is the United States of Mexico.

Oh sure, I could be brief and readable ninjas too...but I care about the craft, man...



...ninjas...

Northern Seleucia wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh lets not bait with the USian bullshit again.

The heck does that even mean?

some languages use "USAian" or "US-American" as a demonym for the USA rather than "american". i know some spanish dictionaries use "estadounidense", german occassionally uses "US-amerikanisch", some italians say "statunitense", in formal portuguese the term is "nord-americano" and in academic brazilian portuguese it's "estadunidense", in esperanto it's "usonano" (although america itself is called usano), so on, and so forth. the term's gradually fallen by the wayside in everyday speech, and there are other examples like the central african republic using a broader term as their demonym.

methinks people who deliberately use "USAian" are just being anti-american for anti-america's sake unless they also use CARian for the central african republic, DRCian for the democratic republic of the congo, ROCian for the republic of congo, blah blah blah

Cannot think of a name wrote:I call Deutschland Germany I think China calls us something kingdom and we don't even have a king.

assuming you're talking about the US, the term for the US in chinese is "měiguó" which roughly translates to "beautiful kingdom" or "beautiful country" but probably isn't the actual origin of the name. i personally prefer japanese: "beikoku," or literally "rice country": like chinese, it's probably an abbreviation of the longer term. in chinese the original term might've been "Yà měi lǐ jià zhōu dà hézhòngguó", which when abbreviated gives us "měiguó" and roughly translates to i believe "the continent west of asia" but this is my very limited interpretation of google translate and pinyin translation sites at 1 AM. likewise, "beikoku" might come from the japanese "meriken", which shares the "米" or "bei" kanji (which is occasionally used as an abbreviation for "beikoku")

Hispida wrote:assuming you're talking about the US, the term for the US in chinese is "měiguó" which roughly translates to "beautiful kingdom" or "beautiful country" but probably isn't the actual origin of the name. i personally prefer japanese: "beikoku," or literally "rice country": like chinese, it's probably an abbreviation of the longer term. in chinese the original term might've been "Yà měi lǐ jià zhōu dà hézhòngguó", which when abbreviated gives us "měiguó". likewise, "beikoku" might come from the japanese "meriken", which shares the "米" or "bei" kanji (which is occasionally used as an abbreviation for "beikoku")

If I'm not mistaken, the pun also works in Mandarin, for 米 is "mi": hence, "miguó".