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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
68
41%
No
44
27%
IDK/Other
53
32%
 
Total votes : 165

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Kvatchdom
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:05 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:And communists should oppose Russia in everything they do, so how is that a warning sign for supporting Russia? This seems like nonsense. The words refer to revolutionary defeatism, a concept that the Bolsheviks used to oppose Russia's war internally during the first world war. Logically, it extends to the same meaning in context to this war.


Except on the 18th of this month the DSA and communist parties of the US, alongside fucking code pink, which still confuses the fuck out of me, ALSO held a rally where they espoused kremlin talking points like Ukrainians are all nazis and Russia was justified against nato expansion. They too held a big russian tricolor in the middle of their parading.

On top of that, myself and fellas of nafo have had to bear the stupidity of countless tankies simping for russia, and i've lost count of the number of times they accused us all of working for the CIA.

IF you're one of the socialists opposing russia and not simultaneouslycontradicting yourself by shouting "west bad too", thank you. But you're in the minority of the movement atm. So if I see people espousing socialist bs and with signatures like that, imma mock and ridicule their shit.

Give me a citation on that. The CPUSA barely does anything anymore, just supports Democrat candidates. DSA only supports Democrat candidates and is otherwise useless. Ukraine has had a problem with neo nazis in the military, that is fact. But I severely doubt any of these groups believe Russia is justified. Provoked? Maybe, they are Americans of course and innately believe imperialism can be justified so not surprising. And also citation on the Russian tricolor flag(I will show it to my friends and we will laugh again at the American left if you can provide it).

What's nafo? And as a person with deep ties to "tankie" organisations and parties across Europe thanks to union activism, "tankies" generally hold the belief that Russia is a capitalist nation and thus must be opposed, same as the US in their imperial shenanigans. Maybe due to your own bubble, that is simply the type of "tankie" you see? Those types have been purged and removed of most left-wing circles, and now identify as patsocs. There's also maga-communists who are a joke.

I am not the minority. There are millions of socialists and communists globally who see Russia's invasion in the same light as the US' invasions of exploited nations. The situation might be different in the US where your internet left-wingers are basically mini celebrities, but the rest of the global socialists stick to the writing in stone; imperialism is imperialism.
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Necroghastia
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Necroghastia » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:07 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:considering that marxism does not, in fact, equal support for putin (and anyone who puts in a nanosecond of critical thinking would tell you that) yes actually.


Logically you'd be right. But go through hours upon hours of reading garbage posts of tankies and kremlintarians on reddit and twitter and you'll think like I do.

hours upon hours of reading garbage posts [. . .] on reddit and twitter

well there's your problem
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Archinstinct
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:23 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
Except on the 18th of this month the DSA and communist parties of the US, alongside fucking code pink, which still confuses the fuck out of me, ALSO held a rally where they espoused kremlin talking points like Ukrainians are all nazis and Russia was justified against nato expansion. They too held a big russian tricolor in the middle of their parading.

On top of that, myself and fellas of nafo have had to bear the stupidity of countless tankies simping for russia, and i've lost count of the number of times they accused us all of working for the CIA.

IF you're one of the socialists opposing russia and not simultaneouslycontradicting yourself by shouting "west bad too", thank you. But you're in the minority of the movement atm. So if I see people espousing socialist bs and with signatures like that, imma mock and ridicule their shit.

Give me a citation on that. The CPUSA barely does anything anymore, just supports Democrat candidates. DSA only supports Democrat candidates and is otherwise useless. Ukraine has had a problem with neo nazis in the military, that is fact. But I severely doubt any of these groups believe Russia is justified. Provoked? Maybe, they are Americans of course and innately believe imperialism can be justified so not surprising. And also citation on the Russian tricolor flag(I will show it to my friends and we will laugh again at the American left if you can provide it).

What's nafo? And as a person with deep ties to "tankie" organisations and parties across Europe thanks to union activism, "tankies" generally hold the belief that Russia is a capitalist nation and thus must be opposed, same as the US in their imperial shenanigans. Maybe due to your own bubble, that is simply the type of "tankie" you see? Those types have been purged and removed of most left-wing circles, and now identify as patsocs. There's also maga-communists who are a joke.

I am not the minority. There are millions of socialists and communists globally who see Russia's invasion in the same light as the US' invasions of exploited nations. The situation might be different in the US where your internet left-wingers are basically mini celebrities, but the rest of the global socialists stick to the writing in stone; imperialism is imperialism.


You need citation? Fine. Be back in a bit I have to do searching and timeline trawling.
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Deblar wrote:If even Switzerland is opposing your imperialist invasion, you know you've fucked up

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Ifreann
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:24 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How does it feel to snort a fat line of detergent and hallucinate posts that don't exist?


Wouldn't know, haven't done it and not idiotic enough to think that. Nice roundabout way of telling me to go kill myself though. I should remember that line the next time i'm feeling pissed and attacking kremlin simps regurgitating propaganda

You have got to learn to read what is actually in people's posts instead of making shit up yourself.


Archinstinct wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:uhhhh remind me what kremlin simp propaganda is going on here again? or are you just going off because you think marxism=stalinism=ussr=russia=putin

because

uh

hoo boy if so


About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?

Gonna be a big day for you when you learn that socialism isn't Russian.


Anyway, I hear the water in Philadelphia is poison now. Or will be soon.
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Kvatchdom
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:27 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Give me a citation on that. The CPUSA barely does anything anymore, just supports Democrat candidates. DSA only supports Democrat candidates and is otherwise useless. Ukraine has had a problem with neo nazis in the military, that is fact. But I severely doubt any of these groups believe Russia is justified. Provoked? Maybe, they are Americans of course and innately believe imperialism can be justified so not surprising. And also citation on the Russian tricolor flag(I will show it to my friends and we will laugh again at the American left if you can provide it).

What's nafo? And as a person with deep ties to "tankie" organisations and parties across Europe thanks to union activism, "tankies" generally hold the belief that Russia is a capitalist nation and thus must be opposed, same as the US in their imperial shenanigans. Maybe due to your own bubble, that is simply the type of "tankie" you see? Those types have been purged and removed of most left-wing circles, and now identify as patsocs. There's also maga-communists who are a joke.

I am not the minority. There are millions of socialists and communists globally who see Russia's invasion in the same light as the US' invasions of exploited nations. The situation might be different in the US where your internet left-wingers are basically mini celebrities, but the rest of the global socialists stick to the writing in stone; imperialism is imperialism.


You need citation? Fine. Be back in a bit I have to do searching and timeline trawling.

No need to stress about it, do it when you got the time.
boo
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Rhodesia-South Africa
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Ex-Nation

Postby Rhodesia-South Africa » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:30 pm

I don’t really care about the whole “right to work” vs forced union drama. My nation just arrests anyone who refuses to work, without further questions. That’s probably the best policy for a successful society

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:30 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
You need citation? Fine. Be back in a bit I have to do searching and timeline trawling.

No need to stress about it, do it when you got the time.

It's gonna be six or seven steps of guilt by association and 'you know what that means', that takes time to accumulate.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Kvatchdom
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:31 pm

Rhodesia-South Africa wrote:I don’t really care about the whole “right to work” vs forced union drama. My nation just arrests anyone who refuses to work, without further questions. That’s probably the best policy for a successful society

Forced union? The fuck are you talking about man.
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Kvatchdom
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:33 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:No need to stress about it, do it when you got the time.

It's gonna be six or seven steps of guilt by association and 'you know what that means', that takes time to accumulate.

I haven't been on NS for over a year and don't know the person, but I hope that's not gonna be the case.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:33 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Rhodesia-South Africa wrote:I don’t really care about the whole “right to work” vs forced union drama. My nation just arrests anyone who refuses to work, without further questions. That’s probably the best policy for a successful society

Forced union? The fuck are you talking about man.

Being required to join the union in a closed shop.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:34 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:It's gonna be six or seven steps of guilt by association and 'you know what that means', that takes time to accumulate.

I haven't been on NS for over a year and don't know the person, but I hope that's not gonna be the case.

I'm pretty sure I'm encountering him for the first time ever, but he has quickly developed a pattern.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Pangurstan
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Pangurstan » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:34 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:uhhhh remind me what kremlin simp propaganda is going on here again? or are you just going off because you think marxism=stalinism=ussr=russia=putin

because

uh

hoo boy if so


About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?

i was thinking about changing my sig, but you've convinced me to keep it
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Archinstinct wrote:'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

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Kvatchdom
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:35 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Forced union? The fuck are you talking about man.

Being required to join the union in a closed shop.

Haven't heard about that before, but sounds good. No one can scab and pretend they don't know why there's a strike going on or claim they can't strike.
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Rhodesia-South Africa
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Ex-Nation

Postby Rhodesia-South Africa » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:37 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Rhodesia-South Africa wrote:I don’t really care about the whole “right to work” vs forced union drama. My nation just arrests anyone who refuses to work, without further questions. That’s probably the best policy for a successful society

Forced union? The fuck are you talking about man.


From what I read, states that are right to work allow someone to leave a labor union in a unionized workplace

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Kvatchdom
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:37 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:I haven't been on NS for over a year and don't know the person, but I hope that's not gonna be the case.

I'm pretty sure I'm encountering him for the first time ever, but he has quickly developed a pattern.

Those always form yeah. Atleast it's recognisable and might be funny in the future, like those my little pony right wingers a decade ago.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:38 pm

Rhodesia-South Africa wrote:My nation just arrests anyone who refuses to work, without further questions. That’s probably the best policy for a successful society

Shitposting about your nazi dystopia is two flights of stairs down by the disused toilet.
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Kvatchdom
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:39 pm

Rhodesia-South Africa wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Forced union? The fuck are you talking about man.


From what I read, states that are right to work allow someone to leave a labor union in a unionized workplace

If someone doesn't want the better pay, rights and representation a union brings, they shouldn't seek work in a heavily unionised field. These laws exist to weaken unions and labour rights in general.
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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:39 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Being required to join the union in a closed shop.

Haven't heard about that before, but sounds good. No one can scab and pretend they don't know why there's a strike going on or claim they can't strike.

Also the free-rider problem where they get all the union negotiated benefits without having to contribute.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Kvatchdom
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:41 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Haven't heard about that before, but sounds good. No one can scab and pretend they don't know why there's a strike going on or claim they can't strike.

Also the free-rider problem where they get all the union negotiated benefits without having to contribute.

Yup. My country doesn't have situations where a workplace is officially unionised, every worker everywhere gains the benefits of being unionised even with no membership. Though you have to be unionised to gain access to the strike fund.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:44 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Also the free-rider problem where they get all the union negotiated benefits without having to contribute.

Yup. My country doesn't have situations where a workplace is officially unionised, every worker everywhere gains the benefits of being unionised even with no membership. Though you have to be unionised to gain access to the strike fund.

Are you talking about the country you live in or the one you RP? Because if it's the former, specifics are polite, if it's the latter, take off the elf ears Legolis, this isn't the theater department, it's that under patrolled part of the campus were people smoke and sneak beers and try and get each other to punch them in the stomach 'as hard as you can...'
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Kvatchdom
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:46 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Yup. My country doesn't have situations where a workplace is officially unionised, every worker everywhere gains the benefits of being unionised even with no membership. Though you have to be unionised to gain access to the strike fund.

Are you talking about the country you live in or the one you RP? Because if it's the former, specifics are polite, if it's the latter, take off the elf ears Legolis, this isn't the theater department, it's that under patrolled part of the campus were people smoke and sneak beers and try and get each other to punch them in the stomach 'as hard as you can...'

Oh, the country I live in of course, this is NSG.
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Narland
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Anarchy

Postby Narland » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:50 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Not in this case. It isn't anything to do with trump, or republicans, which would be a merry-go-round. But rather questioning why he said he supported the neo-nazis calling for blood.
He said he does not support the actions of the Neo-Nazis calling for blood, so that's fine, the discussion has ended.
So once again, not a merry-go-round.

GMS: I cant believe your post, I am taking along time answering you, because I am preparing my post to you. I did miss answering the question directly, my bad. But I kept stating, we are not Fascist Nazis and we don't support Fascist Nazis. But you guys kept arguing I do and about the specific question, related to what Fascist Nazis support. Those statements should have been enough to end these unnecessary back and forth s. So I now cancel the post I am preparing.

GMS Republicans President Trump Governor Ron DeSantis and President Ronald Reagan don't support Fascist Nazis and their Policies. GMS Republicans President Trump Governor Ron DeSantis and President Ronald Reagan are not Fascist Nazis.

President Trump is one of the most Pro Israel American Presidents of The USA, and even has Jewish Grand Children in His Family. GMS and President Trump strongly support Israel and the Jewish People.

The end of these unnecessary back and forth s.
It is far late, and my thoughts sounded good at the time. But it didn't read well. Here is a second try:

To a leftist everything else might conceivably be neo-nazi fascism. With the fallacy of limited choices other things like Classical Liberal duly Constituted republican government based of the democratic principles of liberty and equality that is opposed to tyranny such that it is wholly anti-fascist, anti-nazi, and anti-communist (at the same time and in the same relationship) might very well be inconceivable. That doesn't excuse it, but it does explain why one cannot distinguish between like belief systems that utilize Marxian political dialectics but are at odds with the Communist strain of Marxist thought (such as Fabianism, Nazism, and Fascism) from that which rejects those politics altogether (the Classical Liberalism of American Conservatism).
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:29 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
You need citation? Fine. Be back in a bit I have to do searching and timeline trawling.

No need to stress about it, do it when you got the time.


I'm going to turn the post for this into it's own thread. It's frankly deserving of it's own topic.


BTW somebody went on their alt to report me to moderation to attack me. Doesn't make arguments against me correct, and since they couldn't attack my arguments, people attacked me directly and it seems they'll get moderation to censor me. I if the inbound warning will be for flaming like they wrote up, but there's probably more ways for moderators to spin a warning toward somebody a lot of them dislike with the current set of rules. I'm honestly curious if they'll stick with the flaming or try another reason.
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Deblar wrote:If even Switzerland is opposing your imperialist invasion, you know you've fucked up

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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:49 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Evers

People here often say they want average folk running for office. I present to you the Governor of Wisconsin.

As a young adult he was a caregiver in a nursing home. He got a degree from the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He then became a teacher was a principal in two different schools and then a superintendent in two different districts.

He ran for Superintendent of Public Instruction losing twice in 1993 and and 2001. Evers was appointed deputy by the victor of the election after his second loss. He third time running was the charm in 2009 and served in the position until his election as Governor in 2018.

If someone can give me an example of someone going directly from an entry level job directly to high office in any country I’m listening. The fact is people want someone with at least some experience in high office. It’s not due to some conspiracy or establishment plot.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 6:55 pm

Kvatchdom. I got a few sources for you. There should be more in the thread I want to make but i just want to get my point across:
https://www.codepink.org/piu20iraq
https://twitter.com/DC_YCL/status/1637514842071285765
https://twitter.com/dsa_intl_comm/statu ... 6838174722

About 200 "organizations" rallied around this "coalition":
https://twitter.com/answercoalition

They were only 100 in size though. The Rageagainstwar rally held by the libertarian party and the neo-fascists was bigger with a few thousand. They shared some the same speakers from it like roger waters and Jill Stein though.

Too bad Scott Ritter didn't show up like the kremlin wanted, nobody wanted to work with a convicted pedophile. Even evil has standards.
Don't care, didn't ask.
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Deblar wrote:If even Switzerland is opposing your imperialist invasion, you know you've fucked up

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