American Politics: Speaker's Corner

[Ifreann]

Yes, completely impossible. If I'm paying union dues, I'm not going to complain that my union is really good at fulfilling it's purpose.


Apparently they just collect union dues and fuck off.

So if you have a job and all you do is make dumb videos on social media you expect your union to prevent your boss from firing you and just say on that's ok keep making your dancing videos for your followers.

Very mad that people might be making silly little videos for fun. How dare they.

[Valrifall]

So if you have a job and all you do is make dumb videos on social media you expect your union to prevent your boss from firing you and just say on that's ok keep making your dancing videos for your followers.

Very mad that people might be making silly little videos for fun. How dare they.

Heaven forbid people enjoy things while they work.

[American Legionaries]

Very mad that people might be making silly little videos for fun. How dare they.

Heaven forbid people enjoy things while they work.

I doubt Lumen approves of the peasantry enjoying anything ever.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Weird how you're obsessed with TikTok. But yeah, employers shouldn't have any say in removing workers from the workplace. That should be up to the workers themselves. If everyone on the factory floor likes the one person doing dance videos all day, then the boss can eat shit.

Don't be silly Iffy.

We should just abolish management altogether and reorganize the whole economy to run based on co-ops, worker's councils, and/or unions.

OMG based we stan!

[Eahland]

Heaven forbid people enjoy things while they work.

I doubt Lumen approves of the peasantry enjoying anything ever.

Gotta ban the Tik-toks and the Instagrams so the serfs have nothing to do but give the Democrats the votes they're so clearly entitled to. Because that is obviously how you get people to turn out and vote for you.

[Ors Might]

Yes, completely impossible. If I'm paying union dues, I'm not going to complain that my union is really good at fulfilling it's purpose.


Apparently they just collect union dues and fuck off.

So if you have a job and all you do is make dumb videos on social media you expect your union to prevent your boss from firing you and just say on that's ok keep making your dancing videos for your followers.

Let me share with you a bit of information from my work history. Whenever my job was awful, it wasn't because a coworker wasn't doing their job properly or just sucked. My jobs became awful when the shitty manager was running a shift. Them doing their job incompetently made my life hell. So yes, I'd much rather a coworker that just sat in the back doing TikTok videos than a manager that's awful. At the very least the former is staying out of my way.

[Elwher]

Don't be silly Iffy.

We should just abolish management altogether and reorganize the whole economy to run based on co-ops, worker's councils, and/or unions.

[Solidarity Forever loudly]

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This is truly one of the dumbest arguments you've ever made. Your hired to do a job. Don' want to do said job or follow the rules Bye Felicia.

Let me tell you who knows about what does and does not contribute to a job getting done. It's not the asshole whose name is on the building, but the people on the floor actually doing the job. If the boss wants a say in what happens then they can go down there and work alongside everyone else.

If fellow workers don't like it they can quit too and make their stupid videos on someone else's dime.

Whose dime is it, Lumen? The workers are the people actually generating revenue, not the bosses.

If it weren't for the person whose name is on the building investing their time and effort in starting the business, the noble workers would not have a job in the first place.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

[Solidarity Forever loudly]

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Let me tell you who knows about what does and does not contribute to a job getting done. It's not the asshole whose name is on the building, but the people on the floor actually doing the job. If the boss wants a say in what happens then they can go down there and work alongside everyone else.

Whose dime is it, Lumen? The workers are the people actually generating revenue, not the bosses.

If it weren't for the person whose name is on the building investing their time and effort in starting the business, the noble workers would not have a job in the first place.

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[Celritannia]

Dude's literally whining to you about how he got made to treat his employees with respect and decency...

I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

Says the person who would rather rail workers suffer than have them strike for better pay and safety regulations.

Your pal was hired to do a job and apparently spends his days crying to you because he was supposed to follow the rules. That's literally what started this conversation was you complaining about the rules someone was expected to work under.

This person worked there years ago. A union shouldn't make it impossible to fire someone.

That's one of the fucking points of a union. Otherwise, management can unjustly fire people for the smallest things.

[Ors Might]

[Solidarity Forever loudly]

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Let me tell you who knows about what does and does not contribute to a job getting done. It's not the asshole whose name is on the building, but the people on the floor actually doing the job. If the boss wants a say in what happens then they can go down there and work alongside everyone else.

Whose dime is it, Lumen? The workers are the people actually generating revenue, not the bosses.

If it weren't for the person whose name is on the building investing their time and effort in starting the business, the noble workers would not have a job in the first place.

And if not for the workers working for shit pay, the business wouldn't be turning a profit at all.

[Celritannia]

[Solidarity Forever loudly]

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Let me tell you who knows about what does and does not contribute to a job getting done. It's not the asshole whose name is on the building, but the people on the floor actually doing the job. If the boss wants a say in what happens then they can go down there and work alongside everyone else.

Whose dime is it, Lumen? The workers are the people actually generating revenue, not the bosses.

If it weren't for the person whose name is on the building investing their time and effort in starting the business, the noble workers would not have a job in the first place.

Yet the owners only become rich through exploitation rather than investing in their workers.

[San Lumen]

I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

Says the person who would rather rail workers suffer than have them strike for better pay and safety regulations.

This person worked there years ago. A union shouldn't make it impossible to fire someone.

That's one of the fucking points of a union. Otherwise, management can unjustly fire people for the smallest things.

When is it justifiable to fire someone? My co worker had people who literally weren't doing their job and it was nearly impossible to fire them because of the union rules.

[Celritannia]

Says the person who would rather rail workers suffer than have them strike for better pay and safety regulations.



That's one of the fucking points of a union. Otherwise, management can unjustly fire people for the smallest things.

When is it justifiable to fire someone? My co worker had people who literally weren't doing their job and it was nearly impossible to fire them because of the union rules.

How dare workers have their rights protected (sarcasm).
And if those rules were not in place, bosses could fire them when they want with no reason.

[Neutraligon]

So if you have a job and all you do is make dumb videos on social media you expect your union to prevent your boss from firing you and just say on that's ok keep making your dancing videos for your followers.

Very mad that people might be making silly little videos for fun. How dare they.

When I worked at a supermarket the elevator broke once. Storage was all upstairs thanks to the store being on a hill. Higher boss wanted us to take stuff down the stairs....Every last one of us refused. And our immediate bosses supported us. Since this is a grocery store that meant that people would not get more restock stuff meaning that some stuff was out. Wonder if Lumen would accept us calling the union if the boss had insisted (he didn't, figured out another way to get stuff down there. We actually used the lift that delivery vehicles use and brought stuff literally around outside the store).

So if you have a job and all you do is make dumb videos on social media you expect your union to prevent your boss from firing you and just say on that's ok keep making your dancing videos for your followers.

Let me share with you a bit of information from my work history. Whenever my job was awful, it wasn't because a coworker wasn't doing their job properly or just sucked. My jobs became awful when the shitty manager was running a shift. Them doing their job incompetently made my life hell. So yes, I'd much rather a coworker that just sat in the back doing TikTok videos than a manager that's awful. At the very least the former is staying out of my way.

What is the saying, people do quit bad companies, they quit bad managers. Something like that.

[Hispida]

I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

basically every union has completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

[Zurkerx]

Top House Republicans are considering legislation to protect current and former presidents from politically motivated prosecutions. This is in response to Trump being investigated and may face an indictment from several of those investigations.

[Neutraligon]

Top House Republicans are considering legislation to protect current and former presidents from politically motivated prosecutions. This is in response to Trump being investigated and may face an indictment from several of those investigations.

How do they determine if it is politically motivated.

[El Lazaro]

Top House Republicans are considering legislation to protect current and former presidents from politically motivated prosecutions. This is in response to Trump being investigated and may face an indictment from several of those investigations.

How do they determine if it is politically motivated.

If the criminal is a Republican, presumably.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Top House Republicans are considering legislation to protect current and former presidents from politically motivated prosecutions. This is in response to Trump being investigated and may face an indictment from several of those investigations.

Do they not realize Democrats could use that too?

[Port Caverton]

Top House Republicans are considering legislation to protect current and former presidents from politically motivated prosecutions. This is in response to Trump being investigated and may face an indictment from several of those investigations.

Do they not realize Democrats could use that too?

They don't care about anything, except protecting that RINO.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Do they not realize Democrats could use that too?

They don't care about anything, except protecting that RINO.

But the Democrats are using it first against Republican President Trump, as a Political Kangaroo Court. President Trump is not what you say.

[Valrifall]

Top House Republicans are considering legislation to protect current and former presidents from politically motivated prosecutions. This is in response to Trump being investigated and may face an indictment from several of those investigations.

Do they not realize Democrats could use that too?

Republicans tend to govern like they're going to be the last party to be elected.

Which is probably what they want.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Do they not realize Democrats could use that too?

Republicans tend to govern like they're going to be the last party to be elected.

Which is probably what they want.

What do you think most Republicans say about the Democrats?

[The Jamesian Republic]

They don't care about anything, except protecting that RINO.

But the Democrats are using it first against Republican President Trump, as a Political Kangaroo Court. President Trump is not what you say.

He is. He has destroyed the legacies of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower amongst others.

[Port Caverton]

But the Democrats are using it first against Republican President Trump, as a Political Kangaroo Court. President Trump is not what you say.

He is. He has destroyed the legacies of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower amongst others.

Trump is a RINO because he does not follow Reagan, not because he isn't like those liberals.