American Politics: The Speaker's Cornered

[-Astoria-]

Florida principle forced to resign after allowing pornography in school. The pornography? Michelangelo's David.

X https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... lo-statue/

What times we live in.

Simpsons did it.

Of course they did.

[Cannot think of a name]

Simpsons did it.

Of course they did.

Having been on the air for over 30 years certainly is an advantage when it comes to predicting stuff. Predicting that the moralists would eventually have a problem with David's dingle was really slow and over the plate. We already have a lot of statues and art works that have been vandalized around their naughty bits during moments of societal regression.

[Elwher]

Of course they did.

Having been on the air for over 30 years certainly is an advantage when it comes to predicting stuff. Predicting that the moralists would eventually have a problem with David's dingle was really slow and over the plate. We already have a lot of statues and art works that have been vandalized around their naughty bits during moments of societal regression.

Here in Western NY, there is a David copy in Buffalo which has had loincloths attached and removed numerous times at the behest of various mayors.

[-Astoria-]

Having been on the air for over 30 years certainly is an advantage when it comes to predicting stuff. Predicting that the moralists would eventually have a problem with David's dingle was really slow and over the plate. We already have a lot of statues and art works that have been vandalized around their naughty bits during moments of societal regression.

Here in Western NY, there is a David copy in Buffalo which has had loincloths attached and removed numerous times at the behest of various mayors.

Schrödinger's statue, if you will.

[American Legionaries]

Forcing a person to join an organization is no different from prohibiting them from joining one. A person should have the right to choose what organizations they choose to associate with. However, a union should have the right to insist that their contract only applies to union members, thereby eliminating the free rider problem.

Having a “right to work” by undermining workers’ bargaining power so you (and the employer) have more money at their expense makes about as much sense as having a “right to stay at home” would be in a hypothetical country where widespread vote buying is legal and encouraged. It’s plainly undemocratic and scummy. Selling your vote isn’t a right; it’s an attack on the rights of others on behalf of those screwing everyone over.

I don't like RtW laws, but I have a personal issue with closed shops because I worked at a bad one. Union was never there, we didn't hear crap from them, and we never got any support. I ended up quitting that job and getting on at a non unionized shop in town doing the same thing. They paid more, had better scheduling, and I didn't get a due deducted.

I think that trade unions are by-and-large a good thing, but there are some that don't earn the dues they demand.

[San Lumen]

Having a “right to work” by undermining workers’ bargaining power so you (and the employer) have more money at their expense makes about as much sense as having a “right to stay at home” would be in a hypothetical country where widespread vote buying is legal and encouraged. It’s plainly undemocratic and scummy. Selling your vote isn’t a right; it’s an attack on the rights of others on behalf of those screwing everyone over.

I don't like RtW laws, but I have a personal issue with closed shops because I worked at a bad one. Union was never there, we didn't hear crap from them, and we never got any support. I ended up quitting that job and getting on at a non unionized shop in town doing the same thing. They paid more, had better scheduling, and I didn't get a due deducted.

I think that trade unions are by-and-large a good thing, but there are some that don't earn the dues they demand.

One of my co workers used to be a manager at a union shop and it was nearly impossible to fire anyone. They told me an action plan for fixing the issues was necessary and at one point he got angry at the union rep and said this is utterly ridiculous why have any rules at all if I can't discipline or fire people for not following rules or doing a bad job.

[American Legionaries]

I don't like RtW laws, but I have a personal issue with closed shops because I worked at a bad one. Union was never there, we didn't hear crap from them, and we never got any support. I ended up quitting that job and getting on at a non unionized shop in town doing the same thing. They paid more, had better scheduling, and I didn't get a due deducted.

I think that trade unions are by-and-large a good thing, but there are some that don't earn the dues they demand.

One of my co workers used to be a manager at a union shop and it was nearly impossible to fire anyone. They told me an action plan for fixing the issues was necessary and at one point he got angry at the union rep and said this is utterly ridiculous why have any rules at all if I can't discipline or fire people for not following rules or doing a bad job.

Your coworker sounds like a jerk.

[San Lumen]

One of my co workers used to be a manager at a union shop and it was nearly impossible to fire anyone. They told me an action plan for fixing the issues was necessary and at one point he got angry at the union rep and said this is utterly ridiculous why have any rules at all if I can't discipline or fire people for not following rules or doing a bad job.

Your coworker sounds like a jerk.

How does it make him a jerk for calling out the union rep like that and saying it was impossible to fire anyone?

[American Legionaries]

Your coworker sounds like a jerk.

How does it make him a jerk for calling out the union rep like that and saying it was impossible to fire anyone?

Dude's literally whining to you about how he got made to treat his employees with respect and decency...

[San Lumen]

How does it make him a jerk for calling out the union rep like that and saying it was impossible to fire anyone?

Dude's literally whining to you about how he got made to treat his employees with respect and decency...

He did that and when they did a bad job even after his action plans it was still nearly impossible to fire them. That's not what a union is for so that you can work without having to work. I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

[American Legionaries]

Dude's literally whining to you about how he got made to treat his employees with respect and decency...

He did that and when they did a bad job even after his action plans it was still nearly impossible to fire them. That's not what a union is for so that you can work without having to work. I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

Working less sounds good to me.

[What is the world really]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virgi ... r-AA1938TV Fort Pickett has been renamed to Fort Barfoot on Friday.

[San Lumen]

He did that and when they did a bad job even after his action plans it was still nearly impossible to fire them. That's not what a union is for so that you can work without having to work. I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

Working less sounds good to me.

That's not what this is about and you know it.

[What is the world really]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-army-base-renamed-in-honor-of-native-american-war-hero/ar-AA1938TV Fort Pickett has been renamed to Fort Barfoot on Friday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/6-arm ... c9633&ei=5 here's the dates for a few other military bases.

[Ifreann]

I don't like RtW laws, but I have a personal issue with closed shops because I worked at a bad one. Union was never there, we didn't hear crap from them, and we never got any support. I ended up quitting that job and getting on at a non unionized shop in town doing the same thing. They paid more, had better scheduling, and I didn't get a due deducted.

I think that trade unions are by-and-large a good thing, but there are some that don't earn the dues they demand.

One of my co workers used to be a manager at a union shop and it was nearly impossible to fire anyone. They told me an action plan for fixing the issues was necessary and at one point he got angry at the union rep and said this is utterly ridiculous why have any rules at all if I can't discipline or fire people for not following rules or doing a bad job.

Good, management shouldn't be able to fire anyone.

[San Lumen]

One of my co workers used to be a manager at a union shop and it was nearly impossible to fire anyone. They told me an action plan for fixing the issues was necessary and at one point he got angry at the union rep and said this is utterly ridiculous why have any rules at all if I can't discipline or fire people for not following rules or doing a bad job.

Good, management shouldn't be able to fire anyone.

What? Once you’re hired your employer should not be able to fire you?

[Ifreann]

Good, management shouldn't be able to fire anyone.

What? Once you’re hired your employer should not be able to fire you?

Yeah, that sounds good.

[American Legionaries]

Working less sounds good to me.

That's not what this is about and you know it.

No, it's about your boy being upset about human dignity.

[San Lumen]

What? Once you’re hired your employer should not be able to fire you?

Yeah, that sounds good.

That is utterly ridiculous. So mske dancing videos on tik tok all day instead of doing your job and your employer can’t fire you?

[Eahland]

Dude's literally whining to you about how he got made to treat his employees with respect and decency...

He did that and when they did a bad job even after his action plans it was still nearly impossible to fire them. That's not what a union is for so that you can work without having to work. I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

No, based on your comments here, I'm pretty sure you hate all unions. Any time any labor dispute has come up here, you've been vocally on the side of strike-breaking and union-busting, even when literally everyone else in the thread was united behind the unions.

[San Lumen]

He did that and when they did a bad job even after his action plans it was still nearly impossible to fire them. That's not what a union is for so that you can work without having to work. I don't hate all unions but some have completely lost the point of what the movement was about.

No, based on your comments here, I'm pretty sure you hate all unions. Any time any labor dispute has come up here, you've been vocally on the side of strike-breaking and union-busting, even when literally everyone else in the thread was united behind the unions.

NSG is not representative.

[American Legionaries]

No, based on your comments here, I'm pretty sure you hate all unions. Any time any labor dispute has come up here, you've been vocally on the side of strike-breaking and union-busting, even when literally everyone else in the thread was united behind the unions.

NSG is not representative.

Of everyone else in the thread? It quite obviously is.

[Ifreann]

Yeah, that sounds good.

That is utterly ridiculous. So mske dancing videos on tik tok all day instead of doing your job and your employer can’t fire you?

Weird how you're obsessed with TikTok. But yeah, employers shouldn't have any say in removing workers from the workplace. That should be up to the workers themselves. If everyone on the factory floor likes the one person doing dance videos all day, then the boss can eat shit.

[Eahland]

No, based on your comments here, I'm pretty sure you hate all unions. Any time any labor dispute has come up here, you've been vocally on the side of strike-breaking and union-busting, even when literally everyone else in the thread was united behind the unions.

NSG is not representative.

That has nothing to do with what I said. It's just a feeble attempt to justify your hatred of unions by appealing to some imaginary majority that you think shares your hatred.

[El Lazaro]

Lumen’s anti-worker takes are so garbage that I might become a socialist if I keep listening to them.