American Politics: The Speaker's Cornered

[Umeria]

Not Stopping Russia in Ukraine Would Force 'Doubling' of US Defense Budget, Milley Says

US sending ammunition, tanker trucks, boats to Ukraine

What is he talking about? The cold war was "an era of great power conflict" and the budget was less back then.

[American Legionaries]

The question is, with GMS especially, where is the difference. If he keeps ending up allied with Nazis but insists he's not, in fact, allied with nazis, where does he differ? Both he and Nazis support measures that materially harm the lives of transgender people. Where's the daylight?

It all boils down to those who support Trump. The NeoNazi’s support trump so they are ok.

If the Cuban communists supported and celebrated trump; he would be ok with them.

"Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows"

[Cannot think of a name]

It all boils down to those who support Trump. The NeoNazi’s support trump so they are ok.

If the Cuban communists supported and celebrated trump; he would be ok with them.

"Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows"

Ah the misery of drag shows existing. Must be rough.

[The Black Forrest]

HE did give a straight answer actually:


This is a conclusion to the argument, so once again, not a merry-go-round.

Alight, well...good luck with that brass ring.

It’s still the merry-go-round as it’s a none answer. More then a few republicans will tell you they don’t support trump, he says means things, blah, blah, blah. Yet; they vote his issues.

Saying you don’t support and condemn the Nazis is just talk. You don’t see him or his fellow republicans going to the Nazi’s when they show up at trump rallies and tell them “fuck off out of here!”

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

It all boils down to those who support Trump. The NeoNazi’s support trump so they are ok.

If the Cuban communists supported and celebrated trump; he would be ok with them.

"Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows"

GMS: Dude, I lol at the Black Forrest and Cannot think of a name s statements about me, because they are not GMS, I Am GMS lol . I Rest My Case. GMS with Pride and Honor.

[Northern Seleucia]

Same thing when the Russian pilots crashed into that drone, I think. Called 'em amateurs

Was that the one where it dumped fuel on it and then wingtipped it into the ocean? I don't know a bunch about flying but that seemed like some movie shit there, like showboating. Or finding a way to tip that fucker into the ocean with enough recoverable stuff left in tact.

But what do I know.

I'm no pilot, but have a key interest in military stuff,

The fuel dump was meant for intimidation and showing off. Russian pilots has really terrible piloting and operating skills in combat, and mostly do parade flights. The pilots did stupid stuff, mistakenly whacked the propeller, almost becoming a kamikaze pilot. Overall poor performance.

The drone was wiped clean remotely, no intelligence recovered.

[Cannot think of a name]

Alight, well...good luck with that brass ring.

It’s still the merry-go-round as it’s a none answer. More then a few republicans will tell you they don’t support trump, he says means things, blah, blah, blah. Yet; they vote his issues.

Saying you don’t support and condemn the Nazis is just talk. You don’t see him or his fellow republicans going to the Nazi’s when they show up at trump rallies and tell them “fuck off out of here!”

I mean, they have their supposed answer but it's still goin'...kinda sounds like a merry-go-round to me. But the only thing worse about a merry-go-round would be a tiny little merry-go-round posting up next to it just to talk about the bigger one.

Was that the one where it dumped fuel on it and then wingtipped it into the ocean? I don't know a bunch about flying but that seemed like some movie shit there, like showboating. Or finding a way to tip that fucker into the ocean with enough recoverable stuff left in tact.

But what do I know.

I'm no pilot, but have a key interest in military stuff,

The fuel dump was meant for intimidation and showing off. Russian pilots has really terrible piloting and operating skills in combat, and mostly do parade flights. The pilots did stupid stuff, mistakenly whacked the propeller, almost becoming a kamikaze pilot. Overall poor performance.

The drone was wiped clean remotely, no intelligence recovered.

I'll have to take your word for it. Seemed like stunt flying to me.

[The Black Forrest]

LGBTQ+

Uganda does execute people for being gay.

Slight nitpick: they haven't executed anyone for the past eighteen years, let alone for being such (which is also not a capital offence).

Though the recently-passed bill does provide for it (though after a committee reading; the introduced bill simply called for 10 years' imprisonment), it could (in theory) be nullified again.

According to the bill, "aggravated homosexuality" is defined as:

3. Aggravated homosexuality
(1) A person commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality where the—
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of eighteen years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person having authority or control over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender; or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy or overpower him or her so as to enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex.
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable, on conviction, to imprisonment for ten years.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.

/end

Ah ok. Thanks for the clarification.

[Cannot think of a name]

LGBTQ+

Uganda does execute people for being gay.

Slight nitpick: they haven't executed anyone for the past eighteen years, let alone for being such (which is also not a capital offence).

Though the recently-passed bill does provide for it (though after a committee reading; the introduced bill simply called for 10 years' imprisonment), it could (in theory) be nullified again.

According to the bill, "aggravated homosexuality" is defined as:

3. Aggravated homosexuality
(1) A person commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality where the—
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of eighteen years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person having authority or control over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender; or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy or overpower him or her so as to enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex.
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable, on conviction, to imprisonment for ten years.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.

/end

I feel like that list should apply to heterosexual acts as well, though...yeah? Like, is any of that okay if they're heteronormative? 'cause it shouldn't be.

[Corrian]

I sometimes kinda hate caring about everything because GOD I really want the liberal Justice to win in Wisconsin. It could be a game changer for the current state of Wisconsin. But I fear that the Dems apparent awful ability to vote in sizable enough levels could blow it and Wisconsin will continue to be one of the worst states in the country gerrymandering wise and probably lose abortion rights, all because people are too lazy to vote. Would also show how little people actually care about their rights if they can't be bothered to defend them at all.

But who knows, its probably gonna be close no matter what. We'll see. I'm just constantly frustrated about easily avoidable scenarios we keep seeing ourselves in that could have not happened if people just fucking VOTED.

[San Lumen]

I sometimes kinda hate caring about everything because GOD I really want the liberal Justice to win in Wisconsin. It could be a game changer for the current state of Wisconsin. But I fear that the Dems apparent awful ability to vote in sizable enough levels could blow it and Wisconsin will continue to be one of the worst states in the country gerrymandering wise and probably lose abortion rights, all because people are too lazy to vote. Would also show how little people actually care about their rights if they can't be bothered to defend them at all.

But who knows, it’s probably gonna be close no matter what. We'll see. I'm just constantly frustrated about easily avoidable scenarios we keep seeing ourselves in that could have not happened if people just fucking VOTED.

Early voting and absentee ballots returned does not warrant such pessimism. The turnout in the primary was encouraging. Both liberal justice candidates voted combined equaled 54 percent.

You can help her win by making sure everyone you know votes. Wisconsin also has same day registration. You can also volunteer on the campaign and help turnout even more people.

[Corrian]

I sometimes kinda hate caring about everything because GOD I really want the liberal Justice to win in Wisconsin. It could be a game changer for the current state of Wisconsin. But I fear that the Dems apparent awful ability to vote in sizable enough levels could blow it and Wisconsin will continue to be one of the worst states in the country gerrymandering wise and probably lose abortion rights, all because people are too lazy to vote. Would also show how little people actually care about their rights if they can't be bothered to defend them at all.

But who knows, it’s probably gonna be close no matter what. We'll see. I'm just constantly frustrated about easily avoidable scenarios we keep seeing ourselves in that could have not happened if people just fucking VOTED.

Early voting and absentee ballots returned does not warrant such pessimism. The turnout in the primary was encouraging. Both liberal justice candidates voted combined equaled 54 percent.

You can help her win by making sure everyone you know votes. Wisconsin also has same day registration. You can also volunteer on the campaign and help turnout even more people.

I know literally nobody from Wisconsin.

[San Lumen]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna76591

Bragg, DA probing Trump, received death threat letter with white powder

The substance, which investigators later determined was non-hazardous, was found in a letter addressed to DA Alvin Bragg.

[Corrian]

Kentucky governor vetoed the trans bill

No surprises here. Doesn't really matter, though, because its Kentucky, and Republicans have a veto proof majority. And of course despite the fact a poll came out that a majority of voters IN KANSAS, including Republicans, are against banning this stuff, it'll be passed anyway, and the Republicans will win reelection anyway, because even if they're against it they aren't against it enough to actually give a shit about peoples lives.

[San Lumen]

Kentucky governor vetoed the trans bill

No surprises here. Doesn't really matter, though, because its Kentucky, and Republicans have a veto proof majority. And of course despite the fact a poll came out that a majority of voters IN KANSAS, including Republicans, are against banning this stuff, it'll be passed anyway, and the Republicans will win reelection anyway, because even if they're against it they aren't against it enough to actually give a shit about peoples lives.

If turnout was just a little higher Democrats would have likely kept the House last year. They are going to face backlash for this.

[Corrian]

Kentucky governor vetoed the trans bill

No surprises here. Doesn't really matter, though, because its Kentucky, and Republicans have a veto proof majority. And of course despite the fact a poll came out that a majority of voters IN KANSAS, including Republicans, are against banning this stuff, it'll be passed anyway, and the Republicans will win reelection anyway, because even if they're against it they aren't against it enough to actually give a shit about peoples lives.

If turnout was just a little higher Democrats would have likely kept the House last year. They are going to face backlash for this.

Republicans in Kentucky aren't about to vote against Republicans in the state House over this.

[San Lumen]

If turnout was just a little higher Democrats would have likely kept the House last year. They are going to face backlash for this.

Republicans in Kentucky aren't about to vote against Republicans in the state House over this.

They said Governor Kelly wouldn't win reelection in Kansas and yet she did. Republicans could suffer at the ballot box. All statewide officers are up this year in Kentucky. State legislature isn't.

[Corrian]

Republicans in Kentucky aren't about to vote against Republicans in the state House over this.

They said Governor Kelly wouldn't win reelection in Kansas and yet she did. Republicans could suffer at the ballot box. All statewide officers are up this year in Kentucky. State legislature isn't.

Yeah they're not gonna lose control. Dems might keep the governor because he's popular, but that's about it.

[Cannot think of a name]

Early voting and absentee ballots returned does not warrant such pessimism. The turnout in the primary was encouraging. Both liberal justice candidates voted combined equaled 54 percent.

You can help her win by making sure everyone you know votes. Wisconsin also has same day registration. You can also volunteer on the campaign and help turnout even more people.

I know literally nobody from Wisconsin.

I know one guy, he was pretty cool. We'd playfully argue about who had the better cheese, California or Wisconsin.

In reality I couldn't really tell the difference.

[San Lumen]

They said Governor Kelly wouldn't win reelection in Kansas and yet she did. Republicans could suffer at the ballot box. All statewide officers are up this year in Kentucky. State legislature isn't.

Yeah they're not gonna lose control. Dems might keep the governor because he's popular, but that's about it.

There are other offices on the ballot this year besides governor. State legislature is only in midterms and presidential years.

There has been discussion about amending the constitution to move statewide officials to Presidential years.

[Corrian]

I know literally nobody from Wisconsin.

I know one guy, he was pretty cool. We'd playfully argue about who had the better cheese, California or Wisconsin.

In reality I couldn't really tell the difference.

Actually I think one of my ex-coworkers was from Wisconsin.

[Thermodolia]

Republicans in Kentucky aren't about to vote against Republicans in the state House over this.

They said Governor Kelly wouldn't win reelection in Kansas and yet she did. Republicans could suffer at the ballot box. All statewide officers are up this year in Kentucky. State legislature isn't.

Kentucky isn’t known as Fucky Kentucky for nothing.

The South has a different culture than the Midwest, democrats might actually be able to win in Midwest states but not parts of the South.

[Cannot think of a name]

I know one guy, he was pretty cool. We'd playfully argue about who had the better cheese, California or Wisconsin.

In reality I couldn't really tell the difference.

Actually I think one of my ex-coworkers was from Wisconsin.

Honestly, since my high school didn't have a fight song we just played "On Wisconsin" and that's all I can think about now after saying Wisconsin has been mentioned so often. The college I eventually graduated from had a great fight song.

[Shrillland]

Yeah they're not gonna lose control. Dems might keep the governor because he's popular, but that's about it.

There are other offices on the ballot this year besides governor. State legislature is only in midterms and presidential years.

There has been discussion about amending the constitution to move statewide officials to Presidential years.

It's been going for years, but the Dems will never allow it. The whole point of having executive races in odd years is to ensure that those races are seen as separate from the national contest. If they were moved to even years, Kentucky Dems are convinced, and I dare say rightly, that they would never win high office in the commonwealth ever again because they would have to deal with national tides.

[Zurkerx]

Michigan has become the first State in 58 years to repeal its Right-to-Work Law. The last time this happened was in 1965 when Indiana repealed such a law, only to reenact it back in 2012 - the same year Michigan Republicans passed said Right-to-Work Law.

It's a major win for unions and one of many changes expected to come with Democrats controlling the entirety of Michigan's Government, partly thanks to an independent commission, which drew the maps after being approved in a referendum back in 2018, to allow this to happen.

Another State, Missouri, tried to pass a Right-to-Work law back in 2018, but that was vehemently struck down by voters in a referendum that resulted in a 2-1 margin.

But such ballot initiatives are under attack as Republicans look to impose restrictions on them due to the fact they reverse some of their key policies, ranging from increasing signature requirements to making it harder to place an initiative on the ballot to raising the threshold on passing said initiatives from a simple majority to 60%.

The latter has been proposed in Missouri and Ohio; Ohio's would also require petition signatures from all 88 Ohio counties, instead of the current 44, to get a measure on the ballot. Similar bills were voted on in Arizona and Arkansas last year, with Arizona approving raising the threshold to enact constitutional amendments related to taxes to 60%, but rejecting another that would had allowed the State Legislature to more power to make it easier to repeal citizen-led ballot initiatives; Arkansas voters rejected their bill.

In Florida, where it's already 60%, a new bill would raise that threshold to 67%. Ironically, it would only take a simple majority (or 60% in Florida) to enact such changes to set the new standard. And countless others are being considered in other States too.

Suffice to say, as long as people are smart enough to realize the dangers of weakening ballot initiatives, they will continue to vote against them.