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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri May 26, 2023 11:48 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So when is she actually going to prove electoral fraud?

I think you were one of the one's who asked me this question before, if not my apologies, but I posted she did, but it is very hard to physically prove, and no one is going to testify Your Honor Sir I committed and we committed vote fraud, they called it irregularities and technical problems, lol :) :rofl:


So, no. Now she can wake up from whatever virtual reality she is in and join the rest of us.

I suggest you do the same. Take this red pill. It’s time to leave the Matrix.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 26, 2023 11:48 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So when is she actually going to prove electoral fraud?

I think you were one of the one's who asked me this question before, if not my apologies, but I posted she did, but it is very hard to physically prove, and no one is going to testify Your Honor Sir I committed and we committed vote fraud, they called it irregularities and technical problems, lol :) :rofl:


So basically she’s a sore loser who insists that there was fraud because she can’t accept that she lost and demands that we believe it with no evidence.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Fri May 26, 2023 11:50 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I think you were one of the one's who asked me this question before, if not my apologies, but I posted she did, but it is very hard to physically prove, and no one is going to testify Your Honor Sir I committed and we committed vote fraud, they called it irregularities and technical problems, lol :) :rofl:


So basically she’s a sore loser who insists that there was fraud because she can’t accept that she lost and demands that we believe it with no evidence.

You did not read my post above in full and accurate context.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri May 26, 2023 11:51 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Why can't you lot be like Sweden... where after 8 months of extreme right rule the left wing block polls over 50% now.

According to whom? To anti Trump, anti Lake Leftists, of course.

I thought literal Nazis and their supporting parties taking big L's appealed to you... apparently not.
Thermodolia wrote:Anyway in other news Alan Dershowitz may be facing perjury charges after some testimony came to light during a hearing in AZ

Apparently he was never supposed to be sworn in yet his lawyers agreed to put him under oath even though the judge warned that it could go bad for Dersh and his legal team.

Seems like the AZ GOP is not employing the brightest people, especially given that the Dershowitz team pissed off the judge by throwing the court officers under the bus on multiple occasions

im not getting it... same Dershowitz? Very weird Democrat in that case.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 26, 2023 11:53 am

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Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Kari Lake was leading on the Polls of Arizona, either way she would make a great Vice President for President Trump in 2024, and a great President of the USA with Vice President Patriot in 2028. I speak for me and us.


So when is she actually going to prove electoral fraud?

Considering she’s 0-2, yes she’s had not one but two different trials to prove fraud happened, I’d say there is none. Or if there was any fraud that it was impossible to change the outcome.

For example one of the arguments was that people who didn’t vote due to the mechanical issues that day would have voted republican which is impossible to prove because you can’t know who they would have voted for.

Or that in places where there where undervotes like the AZ AG race that these would have also voted for the republicans, which again is impossible to prove because you can’t prove how someone would vote.

Or that the signature verification process for mail-in votes allowed Dems to change votes or whatever, which was proven false because the signature verifiers don’t see the actual ballot just the signature. So it’s impossible for them to have changed anything or suppressed anything.

The last one came out recently btw in the second trial that Lake had last week. The Lake team accidentally proved the opposing counsels point and showed that the signature verification team actually did their job correctly
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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 26, 2023 11:54 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So basically she’s a sore loser who insists that there was fraud because she can’t accept that she lost and demands that we believe it with no evidence.

You did not read my post above in full and accurate context.


No, I did. It’s just that “the evidence that proves me right totally exists it’s just being suppressed by THEM” is classic conspiracist delusion logic.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Fri May 26, 2023 11:55 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I think you were one of the one's who asked me this question before, if not my apologies, but I posted she did, but it is very hard to physically prove, and no one is going to testify Your Honor Sir I committed and we committed vote fraud, they called it irregularities and technical problems, lol :) :rofl:


So, no. Now she can wake up from whatever virtual reality she is in and join the rest of us.

I suggest you do the same. Take this red pill. It’s time to leave the Matrix.

To use a Republican President Ronald Reagan quote, one of ours, not one of yours, There You Go Again. I don't need and we don't need Political and Personal advice from anti Trump, anti Lake Leftists on President Trump and Kari Lake, and I speak for me and all of us. The color Red for us Republicans stands for Republican Patriot Red.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 26, 2023 11:55 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:According to whom? To anti Trump, anti Lake Leftists, of course.

I thought literal Nazis and their supporting parties taking big L's appealed to you... apparently not.
Thermodolia wrote:Anyway in other news Alan Dershowitz may be facing perjury charges after some testimony came to light during a hearing in AZ

Apparently he was never supposed to be sworn in yet his lawyers agreed to put him under oath even though the judge warned that it could go bad for Dersh and his legal team.

Seems like the AZ GOP is not employing the brightest people, especially given that the Dershowitz team pissed off the judge by throwing the court officers under the bus on multiple occasions

im not getting it... same Dershowitz? Very weird Democrat in that case.

Yes, the same. He’s defended Trump and republicans before. He likes to defend/support people and ideas that are well wacky
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri May 26, 2023 11:58 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
So, no. Now she can wake up from whatever virtual reality she is in and join the rest of us.

I suggest you do the same. Take this red pill. It’s time to leave the Matrix.

To use a Republican President Ronald Reagan quote, one of ours, not one of yours, There You Go Again. I don't need and we don't need Political and Personal advice from anti Trump, anti Lake Leftists on President Trump and Kari Lake, and I speak for me and all of us. The color Red for us Republicans stands for Republican Patriot Red.


You do and they do. You and those two need to stop living in a fantasy world. This is not healthy. And it’s contributing to a trend of politicians not being able to accept defeat.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Fri May 26, 2023 12:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I thought literal Nazis and their supporting parties taking big L's appealed to you... apparently not.

im not getting it... same Dershowitz? Very weird Democrat in that case.

Yes, the same. He’s defended Trump and republicans before. He likes to defend/support people and ideas that are well wacky

Wacky to whom? To anti Trump, anti Kari Lake Leftists, of course. There is nothing wrong with being a Republican, a Trump Supporter, a Ron DeSantis Supporter, a Ronald Reagan Supporter, and I and many of us are supporters of all 3 of them with Pride and Honor, Just Ask Me and Ask US? it is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, lol :) :rofl:
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri May 26, 2023 12:09 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:ok I will, I know My English Not Very Good, but - Trumps a neochristian conservative who wants to electrocute gay people. Are you saying President Trump is a neochristian conservative who wants to electrocute gay people?

Read it even slower - one word out loud to yourself per minute.

There is an apostrophe missing.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri May 26, 2023 12:11 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Read it even slower - one word out loud to yourself per minute.

There is an apostrophe missing.

Tbh we already knew gms reads stuff he wants to see into things that aren't actually there so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 26, 2023 12:13 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes, the same. He’s defended Trump and republicans before. He likes to defend/support people and ideas that are well wacky

Wacky to whom? To anti Trump, anti Kari Lake Leftists, of course. There is nothing wrong with being a Republican, a Trump Supporter, a Ron DeSantis Supporter, a Ronald Reagan Supporter, and I and many of us are supporters of all 3 of them with Pride and Honor, Just Ask Me and Ask US? it is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, lol :) :rofl:

Dude he’s defended literal pedos.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Fri May 26, 2023 12:14 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:To use a Republican President Ronald Reagan quote, one of ours, not one of yours, There You Go Again. I don't need and we don't need Political and Personal advice from anti Trump, anti Lake Leftists on President Trump and Kari Lake, and I speak for me and all of us. The color Red for us Republicans stands for Republican Patriot Red.


You do and they do. You and those two need to stop living in a fantasy world. This is not healthy. And it’s contributing to a trend of politicians not being able to accept defeat.

Dude James: I don't call your Political views, Politicians and VIPs you support Fantasy World Fantasies or any Persons, I respectfully disagree with you on yours and theirs and I leave it there. GMS Proud Republican Trump supporter, Kari Lake, Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan supporter, American Patriot Citizen of the USA, with Pride and Honor, and I Speak for Me and All of US, Just Ask Me and Ask US? I Rest My Case and Our Case. GMS.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri May 26, 2023 12:15 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
You do and they do. You and those two need to stop living in a fantasy world. This is not healthy. And it’s contributing to a trend of politicians not being able to accept defeat.

Dude James: I don't call your Political views, Politicians and VIPs you support Fantasy World Fantasies or any Persons, I respectfully disagree with you on yours and theirs and I leave it there. GMS Proud Republican Trump supporter, Kari Lake, Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan supporter, American Patriot Citizen of the USA, with Pride and Honor, and I Speak for Me and All of US, Just Ask Me and Ask US? I Rest My Case and Our Case. GMS.


Donald Trump lost 2020. Kari Lake lost 2022.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 26, 2023 12:18 pm


Well the markets are about to go nuts
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri May 26, 2023 12:18 pm


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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Fri May 26, 2023 12:20 pm


Thank You for the update, now I have this link for my Posts Records.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/2 ... g-00098977
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 26, 2023 12:26 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Coward

It might be because the republicans and democrats are close to reaching a deal. And Biden doesn’t want to jeopardize that deal by doing anything rash.

I bet you if the deal falls through, Biden will invoke the 14th either as a stop gap or permanently. But most likely as a stop gap.
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Postby Galactic Powers » Fri May 26, 2023 12:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Coward

It might be because the republicans and democrats are close to reaching a deal. And Biden doesn’t want to jeopardize that deal by doing anything rash.

I bet you if the deal falls through, Biden will invoke the 14th either as a stop gap or permanently. But most likely as a stop gap.

I choose to believe this because I need copium rn
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Postby Ryemarch » Fri May 26, 2023 12:27 pm

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri May 26, 2023 12:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Coward

It might be because the republicans and democrats are close to reaching a deal. And Biden doesn’t want to jeopardize that deal by doing anything rash.

I bet you if the deal falls through, Biden will invoke the 14th either as a stop gap or permanently. But most likely as a stop gap.

lemme guess the federal budget is going to be cut in half

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 26, 2023 12:30 pm

Galactic Powers wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It might be because the republicans and democrats are close to reaching a deal. And Biden doesn’t want to jeopardize that deal by doing anything rash.

I bet you if the deal falls through, Biden will invoke the 14th either as a stop gap or permanently. But most likely as a stop gap.

I choose to believe this because I need copium rn

If it helps there’s a lot of reporting that the republicans and democrats are close to a deal and many members are optimistic that one will be reached soon.

Dems are currently pushing for and believe they’ll get a two year debt limit extension, but the final one may only be a year as republicans want to force some cuts before the election.

Though the republican plan could backfire as that would make the debt limit crisis an election issue which the democrats could use to their advantage
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri May 26, 2023 12:30 pm

Galactic Powers wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It might be because the republicans and democrats are close to reaching a deal. And Biden doesn’t want to jeopardize that deal by doing anything rash.

I bet you if the deal falls through, Biden will invoke the 14th either as a stop gap or permanently. But most likely as a stop gap.

I choose to believe this because I need copium rn


Here’s a dose:

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