American Politics: Fiscal Cliffhanger

[Neu California]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

[Ifreann]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

Shock as Trump once again shown to be lying.

[Zurkerx]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

Yeah, this is not a surprise at all, but it should strengthen the DOJ's case against Trump. One of the employees seems to be someone that just wanted to help, but the other, Walt Nauta, would had likely known what was in the those boxes.

I know some are complaining that the DOJ isn't moving fast enough, but the Special Counsel is being meticulous. They want to cover all their bases and have as much stick as possible. They got a strong case in my view: I would be shocked if they didn't bring up charges.

[Neu California]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

Yeah, this is not a surprise at all, but it should strengthen the DOJ's case against Trump. One of the employees seems to be someone that just wanted to help, but the other, Walt Nauta, would had likely known what was in the those boxes.

I know some are complaining that the DOJ isn't moving fast enough, but the Special Counsel is being meticulous. They want to cover all their bases and have as much stick as possible. They got a strong case in my view: I would be shocked if they didn't bring up charges.

Yeah, I agree.

To misquote Shigeru Miyamoto: "A delayed case may be good eventually. A bad case is bad forever"

[Washington Resistance Army]

Supposedly we are going back next year

My understanding is it will be a flyby not a landing but I could be wrong.

Correct. Flyby in 2024, landing in 2025 and then later in the decade building a permanent outpost.

[San Lumen]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

if they don't charge him with a crime for the stolen documents no one should be charged for stealing documents.

[Farnhamia]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

if they don't charge him with a crime for the stolen documents no one should be charged for stealing documents.

Maybe they were moving them to keep them from being damaged by the rising water table. I mean, Florida, you know, it rains a lot and they have the wettest hurricanes you've ever seen. I'm sure President Trump was just trying to protect his personally declassified documents from horrible mold and mildew.

[San Lumen]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-attorn ... ab1672e1bd

Texas lawmakers issue 20 articles of impeachment against state Attorney General Ken Paxton

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

let's be honest, the Right supporting a flat-earther politician is just par for the course of the entirety of Right-Wing history. I can't even be surprised.

Flat Earthers are basically a part of the Q Anon cult at this point.

A televised debate between the presidential candidates on whether the Earth is flat would be entertaining.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

let's be honest, the Right supporting a flat-earther politician is just par for the course of the entirety of Right-Wing history. I can't even be surprised.

Knowledge is an enemy of right-wing politics, hence they love such ignorance.

[Zurkerx]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

[Bradfordville]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I see the anti trump wing of the GOP has decided that instead of running one candidate against Donald and getting 5% of the total vote, they're gonna run a giant crowd of people and each individual will get like 100 votes each.

[San Lumen]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I think the Republican candidate for VP will be woman.South Dakota Goveneor Kristi Noem is a very likely choice.

[El Lazaro]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I think the Republican candidate for VP will be woman.South Dakota Goveneor Kristi Noem is a very likely choice.

Nah, probably a literal Nazi media personality and/or inexperienced politician at this point.

[Haganham]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I see the anti trump wing of the GOP has decided that instead of running one candidate against Donald and getting 5% of the total vote, they're gonna run a giant crowd of people and each individual will get like 100 votes each.

I see no lessons are being learned from 2016

[American Legionaries]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I see the anti trump wing of the GOP has decided that instead of running one candidate against Donald and getting 5% of the total vote, they're gonna run a giant crowd of people and each individual will get like 100 votes each.

I see no lessons are being learned from 2016

Victory teaches few real lessons.

[The Black Forrest]

Washington Post: Trump employees moved boxes day before DOJ went to Mar-a-Lago

Yeah, this is not a surprise at all, but it should strengthen the DOJ's case against Trump. One of the employees seems to be someone that just wanted to help, but the other, Walt Nauta, would had likely known what was in the those boxes.

I know some are complaining that the DOJ isn't moving fast enough, but the Special Counsel is being meticulous. They want to cover all their bases and have as much stick as possible. They got a strong case in my view: I would be shocked if they didn't bring up charges.

Indeed. Was it simply a coincidence or was it because somebody tipped them off. This kind of a raid is not public knowledge. They should investigate for possible leakage.

Though it’s yet another example which goes against claimed ignorance. If they were practicing hiding documents, they have to bring charges…..

[Eahland]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I see the anti trump wing of the GOP has decided that instead of running one candidate against Donald and getting 5% of the total vote, they're gonna run a giant crowd of people and each individual will get like 100 votes each.

I see no lessons are being learned from 2016

The Democrats aren't trying to anoint Hillary Clinton queen again, so that's something.

[Zurkerx]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I think the Republican candidate for VP will be woman.South Dakota Goveneor Kristi Noem is a very likely choice.

Possibly, but Trump does want someone completely loyal and won't outshine him. Noem may fit that description, but he may want Marjorie Greene or Kari Lake. It would make sense for Trump to pick a woman, but the abortion issue is going to dog him - and people like DeSantis will probably force him to state his position. Democrats will wait for that.

[Zurkerx]

Yeah, this is not a surprise at all, but it should strengthen the DOJ's case against Trump. One of the employees seems to be someone that just wanted to help, but the other, Walt Nauta, would had likely known what was in the those boxes.

I know some are complaining that the DOJ isn't moving fast enough, but the Special Counsel is being meticulous. They want to cover all their bases and have as much stick as possible. They got a strong case in my view: I would be shocked if they didn't bring up charges.

Indeed. Was it simply a coincidence or was it because somebody tipped them off. This kind of a raid is not public knowledge. They should investigate for possible leakage.

Though it’s yet another example which goes against claimed ignorance. If they were practicing hiding documents, they have to bring charges…..

So, to specify, this was when the subpoenaed was issued back in May of 2022. Thus, he would had knowledge of the DOJ coming and thus, time to move certain boxes he wanted to keep. That is critical to establish obstruction, which I think is clear and obvious. This wasn't related to the FBI Search Warrant on his property.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-attorney-general-paxton-impeachment-1eaccf00ce80d26c4fc94eab1672e1bd

Texas lawmakers issue 20 articles of impeachment against state Attorney General Ken Paxton

why now?

[Shrillland]

https://apnews.com/article/texas-attorney-general-paxton-impeachment-1eaccf00ce80d26c4fc94eab1672e1bd

Texas lawmakers issue 20 articles of impeachment against state Attorney General Ken Paxton

why now?

It's been several years in the making apparently, but I have the feeling that his calls for the House Speaker to be expelled may have been the last nerve.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum is expected to run for President. He's expected to announce on June 7th. Yeah, he has no shot either, but I suspect they're instead running in hopes would select them as their VP - the exceptions being Hutchinson or any anti-Trump candidates, perhaps DeSantis too, who I can't see being a VP at the moment.

I strongly agree, and I and many of us are at least glad you say you can't see Ron DeSantis as President Trump's VP at the moment, and not say he won't be. or is it me and many of us? lol My English Not Very Good. GMS.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

why now?

It's been several years in the making apparently, but I have the feeling that his calls for the House Speaker to be expelled may have been the last nerve.

I also read that it's because the feds are on his ass again for that securities fraud he did.

[Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing]

Imagine taking politics seriously in 2023

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