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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
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Shrillland
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:15 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://abc7chicago.com/book-bans-illinois-library-house-of-representatives-politics/12993420/

Illinois House passes bill prohibiting libraries from banning books due to partisan pressure

How will they prove partisan pressure?


Well, ideological pressure would technically be more accurate, the examples used were two school districts in Dupage County that faced pressure from both mainstream conservative groups and the Proud Boys to ban Maia Kobabe's Gender Queer.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:16 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:How will they prove partisan pressure?


Well, ideological pressure would technically be more accurate, the examples used were two school districts in Dupage County that faced pressure from both mainstream conservative groups and the Proud Boys to ban Maia Kobabe's Gender Queer.

Ah okay then.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:30 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna76284

Manhattan DA's office blasts House Republicans' request for testimony about Trump probe

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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:03 pm



Let's watch the Republican Party leaders twist and turn depending on poll results.
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Postby Haganham » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:45 pm

Thermodolia wrote:I think we can change the title. Trump hasn’t been indicted and he hasn’t been arrested.

What is this, like the 12th time dems have tried to take down Trump and shot blanks? At this point DNC stands for did not cum.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:47 pm

Haganham wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think we can change the title. Trump hasn’t been indicted and he hasn’t been arrested.

At this point DNC stands for did not cum.

:rofl:
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:51 pm

Haganham wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think we can change the title. Trump hasn’t been indicted and he hasn’t been arrested.

What is this, like the 12th time dems have tried to take down Trump and shot blanks? At this point DNC stands for did not cum.


The only person who said he'd be indicted is Trump himself, as usual he's wrong about everything.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:05 pm

Haganham wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think we can change the title. Trump hasn’t been indicted and he hasn’t been arrested.

What is this, like the 12th time dems have tried to take down Trump and shot blanks? At this point DNC stands for did not cum.

This wasn't a conspiracy by the Democrats, Trump just got paranoid about getting arrested for a crime he committed. The Dems are too spineless to do much about him.
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Postby Diuhon » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:06 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Haganham wrote:What is this, like the 12th time dems have tried to take down Trump and shot blanks? At this point DNC stands for did not cum.


The only person who said he'd be indicted is Trump himself, as usual he's wrong about everything.

a pity, really

i just wanted to feel a little warmer inside

guess did not cum will be in effect till the apocalypse or whenever the world becomes a depraved hive of authoritarian eschatologists

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:58 pm

Well, it looks like that the US may be banned in the US. Good, we don't need CCP spyware on America''s devices.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:58 pm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sou ... r-98073525

South Carolina comptroller to resign after $3.5B error

Comptroller General Richard Eckstrom will resign next month after a $3.5 billion accounting error in the year-end financial report he oversaw

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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:00 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:Well, it looks like that the US may be banned in the US...


If the goddamn woke commie agenda gets its way..
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:02 pm

Bombadil wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:Well, it looks like that the US may be banned in the US...


If the goddamn woke commie agenda gets its way..


Nah, I'm one of those liberals that hate communism. The cold war type. ;)
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:10 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
If the goddamn woke commie agenda gets its way..


Nah, I'm one of those liberals that hate communism. The cold war type. ;)

All liberals? Anyways, China would be universally considered very right-wing if it was European and stopped pretending to be far-left.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:23 pm

Haganham wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think we can change the title. Trump hasn’t been indicted and he hasn’t been arrested.

What is this, like the 12th time dems have tried to take down Trump and shot blanks? At this point DNC stands for did not cum.

The only one who said Trump was getting arrested was Trump.

EDIT: This is apparently well covered ground...
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:23 pm

Tucker Carlson agitating against trans people getting armed, linking them to Ukraine, saying it isn't an exercise of the 2nd Amendment. Here you have it, folks. The mouthpiece of billionaires is delegitimising gun ownership by trans people. This is the shell into the mountainside meant to start an avalanche. Any trans person in the US who thinks they need a gun, you better get it while you still can. Find your local John Brown Gun Club or nearest, leftest equivalent. If Tucker Carlson is chatting shit about you then fucking Congress is listening.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:28 pm

Ifreann wrote:Tucker Carlson agitating against trans people getting armed, linking them to Ukraine, saying it isn't an exercise of the 2nd Amendment. Here you have it, folks. The mouthpiece of billionaires is delegitimising gun ownership by trans people. This is the shell into the mountainside meant to start an avalanche. Any trans person in the US who thinks they need a gun, you better get it while you still can. Find your local John Brown Gun Club or nearest, leftest equivalent. If Tucker Carlson is chatting shit about you then fucking Congress is listening.


I seriously question at this point if he actually believes what he says.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tucker Carlson agitating against trans people getting armed, linking them to Ukraine, saying it isn't an exercise of the 2nd Amendment. Here you have it, folks. The mouthpiece of billionaires is delegitimising gun ownership by trans people. This is the shell into the mountainside meant to start an avalanche. Any trans person in the US who thinks they need a gun, you better get it while you still can. Find your local John Brown Gun Club or nearest, leftest equivalent. If Tucker Carlson is chatting shit about you then fucking Congress is listening.


I seriously question at this point if he actually believes what he says.

Whether he does or not is immaterial.

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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:Tucker Carlson agitating against trans people getting armed, linking them to Ukraine, saying it isn't an exercise of the 2nd Amendment. Here you have it, folks. The mouthpiece of billionaires is delegitimising gun ownership by trans people. This is the shell into the mountainside meant to start an avalanche. Any trans person in the US who thinks they need a gun, you better get it while you still can. Find your local John Brown Gun Club or nearest, leftest equivalent. If Tucker Carlson is chatting shit about you then fucking Congress is listening.

So when is he going to advocate banning them from holding government jobs, owning businesses, and being in media? In spite of all the times the GOP exploited the Holocaust to make cheap shots about gun control, it seems like they forgot their own talking points.
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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:LGBTQ+

Uganda does execute people for being gay.

Slight nitpick: they haven't executed anyone for the past eighteen years, let alone for being such (which is also not a capital offence).

Though the recently-passed bill does provide for it (though after a committee reading; the introduced bill simply called for 10 years' imprisonment), it could (in theory) be nullified again.

According to the bill, "aggravated homosexuality" is defined as:
3. Aggravated homosexuality
(1) A person commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality where the—
(a) person against whom the offence is committed is below the age of eighteen years;
(b) offender is a person living with HIV;
(c) offender is a parent or guardian of the person against whom the offence is committed;
(d) offender is a person having authority or control over the person against whom the offence is committed;
(e) victim of the offence is a person with disability;
(f) offender is a serial offender; or
(g) offender applies, administers or causes to be used by any man or woman any drug, matter or thing with intent to stupefy or overpower him or her so as to enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex.
(2) A person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality shall be liable, on conviction, to imprisonment for ten years.
(3) Where a person is charged with the offence under this section, that person shall undergo a medical examination to ascertain his or her HIV status.

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:Tucker Carlson agitating against trans people getting armed, linking them to Ukraine, saying it isn't an exercise of the 2nd Amendment. Here you have it, folks. The mouthpiece of billionaires is delegitimising gun ownership by trans people. This is the shell into the mountainside meant to start an avalanche. Any trans person in the US who thinks they need a gun, you better get it while you still can. Find your local John Brown Gun Club or nearest, leftest equivalent. If Tucker Carlson is chatting shit about you then fucking Congress is listening.


I remember saying that there were right-wingers that want to disarm their political opponents, and right-wingers told me that I was full of shit.

I saw this coming fucking years ago. The fascists are coming for our guns. Tell them to suck it and that they can take it from your cold dead hands.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:44 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Haganham wrote:What is this, like the 12th time dems have tried to take down Trump and shot blanks? At this point DNC stands for did not cum.


The only person who said he'd be indicted is Trump himself, as usual he's wrong about everything.

I saw and read the article you got that from, lol :) Many Persons have been saying Trump will be indicted and found guilty for a long time. Many of you want President Trump to be indicted and found guilty, because you believe he is guilty, like many of you post. Because you hear and read about it from many leftist Democrat Politicians, VIPs, Journalists and Political commentators on the Leftist Media.

Many lawyers and anti Trump, Leftist Liberal Democrat lawyer and law professor Alan Dershowitz and lawyer Jonathan Turley have been saying Elvin Briggs has a very weak case against President Trump, he himself at one time did not want to do this against President Trump. This case has been dismissed a few times by certain authorities. They are practically saying this is another anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court Persecution of President Trump on Trumped charges by the Democrats, Trumped Pun intended, in majority leftist New York.

Letticia James:
She even called President Trump an illegitimate President. So she is another leftist Democrat election vote fraud denier claimer, lol :). But we cant claim election vote fraud, but she can and does. She called President Trump an illegitimate President.

I posted the video link a long time ago on one of these US Politics Mega Threads. I am searching for it right now, but so far I have not found it again. I just found this version of her hate and bias against President Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1yj0NKSsuU Letitia James campained in New York on Getting President Trump, her whole cases against President Trump should have been thrown out by higher courts based on her anti Trump political bias and personal hate and she should have lost her license to practice and thrown out of her office as a prosecutor or whatever her tittle is or was.
This one does not seem to be same video link I Posted from CNN, the other one is very clearly better and anti Trump, but here is this one for now: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/10/politics ... index.html

Elvin Briggs is also reported to have campaigned on getting President Truimp.

Here is the Link to the post I posted about it, with the Links of their statements, so I don't Rinse and Repeat it all again, which all of us do: viewtopic.php?p=40434523#p40434523

Lawyer Jonathan Turley:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... fec-expert

I saw your link of the Poll article before you posted it and many similar articles. I and US strongly hope they are correct. Like I said, I know many of us are Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis and Pro Ronald Reagan.

Thanks for the awesome link, I know about:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... wdown-poll

lol :) Leftist Democrat Party leaders twist and turn too.

Trump is always right about everything, Just Ask Me and Ask US? lol, :) :rofl:

I Proved My Case and our Case.

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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:53 pm

yo mr white soros where's my tank
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Postby North Korea Choson » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:39 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
The only person who said he'd be indicted is Trump himself, as usual he's wrong about everything.

I saw and read the article you got that from, lol :) Many Persons have been saying Trump will be indicted and found guilty for a long time. Many of you want President Trump to be indicted and found guilty, because you believe he is guilty, like many of you post. Because you hear and read about it from many leftist Democrat Politicians, VIPs, Journalists and Political commentators on the Leftist Media.

Many lawyers and anti Trump, Leftist Liberal Democrat lawyer and law professor Alan Dershowitz and lawyer Jonathan Turley have been saying Elvin Briggs has a very weak case against President Trump, he himself at one time did not want to do this against President Trump. This case has been dismissed a few times by certain authorities. They are practically saying this is another anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court Persecution of President Trump on Trumped charges by the Democrats, Trumped Pun intended, in majority leftist New York.

Letticia James:
She even called President Trump an illegitimate President. So she is another leftist Democrat election vote fraud denier claimer, lol :). But we cant claim election vote fraud, but she can and does. She called President Trump an illegitimate President.

I posted the video link a long time ago on one of these US Politics Mega Threads. I am searching for it right now, but so far I have not found it again. I just found this version of her hate and bias against President Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1yj0NKSsuU Letitia James campained in New York on Getting President Trump, her whole cases against President Trump should have been thrown out by higher courts based on her anti Trump political bias and personal hate and she should have lost her license to practice and thrown out of her office as a prosecutor or whatever her tittle is or was.
This one does not seem to be same video link I Posted from CNN, the other one is very clearly better and anti Trump, but here is this one for now: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/10/politics ... index.html

Elvin Briggs is also reported to have campaigned on getting President Truimp.

Here is the Link to the post I posted about it, with the Links of their statements, so I don't Rinse and Repeat it all again, which all of us do: viewtopic.php?p=40434523#p40434523

Lawyer Jonathan Turley:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... fec-expert

I saw your link of the Poll article before you posted it and many similar articles. I and US strongly hope they are correct. Like I said, I know many of us are Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis and Pro Ronald Reagan.

Thanks for the awesome link, I know about:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... wdown-poll

lol :) Leftist Democrat Party leaders twist and turn too.

Trump is always right about everything, Just Ask Me and Ask US? lol, :) :rofl:

I Proved My Case and our Case.

I Rest My Case and our Case for now. GMS and US with Pride and Honor.

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Postby Kvatchdom » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:53 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:Well, it looks like that the US may be banned in the US. Good, we don't need CCP spyware on America''s devices.

Every single app you use sells the same data to China that TikTok does. There's a reason meta has started stopping their funding of influencers on Instagram's reels, it's because their lobbying efforts to ban competition is working, and they'll no longer need the financial incentive on reels.

https://observer.com/2022/03/meta-is-paying-a-conservative-lobbying-firm-to-push-an-anti-tiktok-agenda/
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