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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 24, 2023 7:57 pm

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234741082/

Georgia GOP Chair Goes Full Flat-Earth, Says Globes Are Part of a Conspiracy

“Every store, you buy a globe. There’s globes everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, news media — why? It doesn’t make sense.”

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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed May 24, 2023 7:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/

Georgia GOP Chair Goes Full Flat-Earth, Says Globes Are Part of a Conspiracy

“Every store, you buy a globe. There’s globes everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, news media — why? It doesn’t make sense.”

If earth is actually a globe, why are maps two-dimensional? Checkmate liberals.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 24, 2023 8:00 pm

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I don't understand Ron, he's clearly smart enough to know that he has an image problem, but takes the worst possible steps to rectify it. He seems to have no iota of good political intuition.

He wore white Gucci boots to a disaster site, he’s not exactly good with intuition and perception


Hey man. He probably overheard two women talking about wether or not Gogo boots were chic.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 24, 2023 8:00 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/

Georgia GOP Chair Goes Full Flat-Earth, Says Globes Are Part of a Conspiracy

“Every store, you buy a globe. There’s globes everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, news media — why? It doesn’t make sense.”

If earth is actually a globe, why are maps two-dimensional? Checkmate liberals.

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed May 24, 2023 8:01 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Helluva launch from DeSantis. Definitely wasn't strange, underwhelming, or otherwise filled with avoidable errors...

I don't understand Ron, he's clearly smart enough to know that he has an image problem, but takes the worst possible steps to rectify it. He seems to have no iota of good political intuition.

He wore white Gucci boots to a disaster site, he’s not exactly good with intuition and perception


Let's be honest, the boots wore him.

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Postby Soviet Adia » Wed May 24, 2023 8:01 pm

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Postby Ryemarch » Wed May 24, 2023 8:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/

Georgia GOP Chair Goes Full Flat-Earth, Says Globes Are Part of a Conspiracy

“Every store, you buy a globe. There’s globes everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, news media — why? It doesn’t make sense.”

Once upon a time I would have had a hearty laugh, confidently believing that she would never hold office again after saying such things. Now it's more likely to make her a celebrity of the party than it is to tank her career.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 24, 2023 8:25 pm

Ryemarch wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kandiss-taylor-globes-anti-flat-earth-brainwashing-1234741082/

Georgia GOP Chair Goes Full Flat-Earth, Says Globes Are Part of a Conspiracy

“Every store, you buy a globe. There’s globes everywhere. Every movie, every TV show, news media — why? It doesn’t make sense.”

Once upon a time I would have had a hearty laugh, confidently believing that she would never hold office again after saying such things. Now it's more likely to make her a celebrity of the party than it is to tank her career.


I mean, why should it make any difference whatsoever?

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Neu California
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Postby Neu California » Wed May 24, 2023 8:27 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Ryemarch wrote:Once upon a time I would have had a hearty laugh, confidently believing that she would never hold office again after saying such things. Now it's more likely to make her a celebrity of the party than it is to tank her career.


I mean, why should it make any difference whatsoever?

Because if she's that ignorant on this topic, what else could she be ignorant about and how will that affect her party's ability to actually do the best thing for the people?
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 24, 2023 8:36 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Ryemarch wrote:Once upon a time I would have had a hearty laugh, confidently believing that she would never hold office again after saying such things. Now it's more likely to make her a celebrity of the party than it is to tank her career.


I mean, why should it make any difference whatsoever?


Id rather not have people who believe in nonsense like flat earth running political parties or running for office.

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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed May 24, 2023 8:38 pm

Ryemarch wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The primaries are going to be a shitshow of candidates wavering between appealing to the base or trying to be normal, you can't be both.

It's like The Price is Right, but with fascism. Whoever presents the most like Hitler without going over the limit will win.

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Bombadil
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 24, 2023 8:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I mean, why should it make any difference whatsoever?


Id rather not have people who believe in nonsense like flat earth running political parties or running for office.


Someone has to represent the flat earth demographic..
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 24, 2023 8:50 pm

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.


American politics proves this correct.
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Postby Haganham » Wed May 24, 2023 8:54 pm

Bombadil wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Id rather not have people who believe in nonsense like flat earth running political parties or running for office.


Someone has to represent the flat earth demographic..

https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/cons ... ic-beliefs At ten percent of the population they're quite underrepresented.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 24, 2023 9:00 pm

Haganham wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Someone has to represent the flat earth demographic..

https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/cons ... ic-beliefs At ten percent of the population they're quite underrepresented.

1/4th of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth: https://www.cnet.com/culture/earth-revo ... -say-nope/

Let's increase their representation too.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 24, 2023 9:01 pm

Neu California wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I mean, why should it make any difference whatsoever?

Because if she's that ignorant on this topic, what else could she be ignorant about and how will that affect her party's ability to actually do the best thing for the people?


Who knows, but thinking that the earth is flat is hardly something that impacts her ability to create or support good policy for her people.

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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 24, 2023 9:02 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Haganham wrote:https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/cons ... ic-beliefs At ten percent of the population they're quite underrepresented.

1/4th of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth: https://www.cnet.com/culture/earth-revo ... -say-nope/

Let's increase their representation too.


88% of Congress is Christian against a population of 65%, if anything they're over-represented.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 24, 2023 9:04 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Neu California wrote:Because if she's that ignorant on this topic, what else could she be ignorant about and how will that affect her party's ability to actually do the best thing for the people?


Who knows, but thinking that the earth is flat is hardly something that impacts her ability to create or support good policy for her people.


Yes it does, it means she doesn't support or understand evidence in making her decisions.
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 24, 2023 9:06 pm

Bombadil wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Who knows, but thinking that the earth is flat is hardly something that impacts her ability to create or support good policy for her people.


Yes it does, it means she doesn't support or understand evidence in making her decisions.

No it doesn't, it means that she is ignorant about the shape of the Earth, not that she doesn't use evidence when making her decisions.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 24, 2023 9:07 pm

EuroStralia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Yes it does, it means she doesn't support or understand evidence in making her decisions.

No it doesn't, it means that she is ignorant about the shape of the Earth, not that she doesn't use evidence when making her decisions.


It's a pretty fundamental thing to be ignorant about..
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EuroStralia
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Postby EuroStralia » Wed May 24, 2023 9:08 pm

Bombadil wrote:
EuroStralia wrote:No it doesn't, it means that she is ignorant about the shape of the Earth, not that she doesn't use evidence when making her decisions.


It's a pretty fundamental thing to be ignorant about..

Not really, the shape of the Earth doesn't really matter that much.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed May 24, 2023 9:09 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:1/4th of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth: https://www.cnet.com/culture/earth-revo ... -say-nope/

Let's increase their representation too.


88% of Congress is Christian against a population of 65%, if anything they're over-represented.

In all seriousness, I think this intelligence deficit explains everything wrong with the U.S.

Most of my countrymen aren't very bright, hence why we have all our problems.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 24, 2023 9:09 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Neu California wrote:Because if she's that ignorant on this topic, what else could she be ignorant about and how will that affect her party's ability to actually do the best thing for the people?


Who knows, but thinking that the earth is flat is hardly something that impacts her ability to create or support good policy for her people.

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/stat ... 47969?s=20

This woman is a flat earther and ran for Senate in Delaware last year and lost in a landslide. She might very well run again. This isn't someone I want anywhere near elected office.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed May 24, 2023 9:13 pm

EuroStralia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
It's a pretty fundamental thing to be ignorant about..

Not really, the shape of the Earth doesn't really matter that much.


Whatever.. frankly in my opinion if you can't even get the shape of the earth right then all your other decisions are questionable.. but whatever..
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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 24, 2023 9:13 pm

Ryemarch wrote:
Bombadil wrote:The primaries are going to be a shitshow of candidates wavering between appealing to the base or trying to be normal, you can't be both.

It's like The Price is Right, but with fascism. Whoever presents the most like Hitler without going over the limit will win.

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