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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
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The Astral Mandate
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Postby The Astral Mandate » Wed May 24, 2023 6:19 am

The Pirateariat wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:What is alfalfa even used for

My chinchilla ate it. This is also, as far as I know, is it's only use. Same with barley.

Apparently you can extract gold from it
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed May 24, 2023 6:21 am

The Astral Mandate wrote:
The Pirateariat wrote:My chinchilla ate it. This is also, as far as I know, is it's only use. Same with barley.

Apparently you can extract gold from it


Note to self: Buy alfalfa.

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Postby Arval Va » Wed May 24, 2023 8:31 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The Astral Mandate wrote:Apparently you can extract gold from it


Note to self: Buy alfalfa.

Just purée it and spin it in a centrifuge.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 24, 2023 9:47 am

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/24/biden-d ... -plan.html

Biden, Democrats plan beefed-up 50-state fundraising strategy to overwhelm GOP rivals

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 24, 2023 9:55 am

Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed May 24, 2023 10:01 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html


Isn't this the same parent who has complained about several other things too? Florida strikes again. I feel if Democrats could ever take the majority and win the governorship that these laws will be reversed in a heartbeat.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed May 24, 2023 10:29 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html


Exactly what about that poem had hate speech?

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Postby Deblar » Wed May 24, 2023 10:32 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html

It “is not educational and have (sic) indirectly hate messages,” the complaint said

Bruh, if you’re gonna complain about nonexistent hate speech, the least you could do is at least use proper grammar

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html


Exactly what about that poem had hate speech?

It doesn’t glorify America enough, apparently.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed May 24, 2023 10:35 am

Deblar wrote:Bruh, if you’re gonna complain about nonexistent hate speech, the least you could do is at least use proper grammar

I'd expect people petitioning their government to at least have a rudimentary command of the English language but hey.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed May 24, 2023 10:36 am

Deblar wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html

It “is not educational and have (sic) indirectly hate messages,” the complaint said

Bruh, if you’re gonna complain about nonexistent hate speech, the least you could do is at least use proper grammar

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Exactly what about that poem had hate speech?

It doesn’t glorify America enough, apparently.


This is insane.

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Postby Zurkerx » Wed May 24, 2023 10:56 am

Florida lawmakers are pushing a new bill that could allow new roads be made from a "radioactive" mining waste called Phosphogypsum as a "road construction aggregate material."

Phosphogypsum is the waste left behind from mining phosphate rock, which is commonly used for producing fertilizer, and is known for containing "radioactive material," according to the EPA.

Phosphate rock contains "small amounts" of uranium and radium, the EPA says, and in the leftover waste, those elements decay to radium, which then becomes radon, a "potentially cancer-causing, radioactive gas," a spokesperson for the EPA told CBS News.

"Because the wastes are concentrated, phosphogypsum is more radioactive than the original phosphate rock," the EPA says on its website, with the spokesperson adding, "The Clean Air Act regulations require that that phosphogypsum be managed in engineered stacks to limit public exposure from emissions of radon and other radionuclides in the material."

[...]

The bill was ordered enrolled by the Florida House on May 1 and now awaits a signature from DeSantis. If signed, the Department of Transportation would be permitted to "undertake demonstration projects" using the material "to determine its feasibility as a paving material." The department would be required to conduct a study on its "suitability" for that material, the bill states, which must be completed by April 1, 2024.

If signed by DeSantis, phosphogypsum would join a list of other "recyclable materials" in the bill that legislators say "contribute to problems of declining space in landfills" and could be used for road construction. Other materials already approved include tire rubber, ash reside from coal combustion byproducts, mixed plastic, construction steel and glass.

But phosphogypsum is reserved for storage in gypstack systems – not landfills – and the EPA has banned its use in projects for decades, although a spokesperson for the agency told CBS News that the material is allowed to be used for agricultural and indoor research, with restrictions. The agency can also approve specific uses for it "is at least as protective of human health as placement in a stack." If an application meets their requirements, including one for road construction, they can approve it, they said.

The bill does state that any phosphogypsum-centered plans for road construction would be used "in accordance with the conditions" of the EPA's approval, which the EPA spokesperson reiterated to CBS News.


It's - rather interesting that is a major concern in Florida though there are definitely health and environmental risks.
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Postby Fractalnavel » Wed May 24, 2023 11:13 am

Zurkerx wrote:Florida lawmakers are pushing a new bill that could allow new roads be made from a "radioactive" mining waste called Phosphogypsum as a "road construction aggregate material."

Phosphogypsum is the waste left behind from mining phosphate rock, which is commonly used for producing fertilizer, and is known for containing "radioactive material," according to the EPA.

Phosphate rock contains "small amounts" of uranium and radium, the EPA says, and in the leftover waste, those elements decay to radium, which then becomes radon, a "potentially cancer-causing, radioactive gas," a spokesperson for the EPA told CBS News.

"Because the wastes are concentrated, phosphogypsum is more radioactive than the original phosphate rock," the EPA says on its website, with the spokesperson adding, "The Clean Air Act regulations require that that phosphogypsum be managed in engineered stacks to limit public exposure from emissions of radon and other radionuclides in the material."

[...]

The bill was ordered enrolled by the Florida House on May 1 and now awaits a signature from DeSantis. If signed, the Department of Transportation would be permitted to "undertake demonstration projects" using the material "to determine its feasibility as a paving material." The department would be required to conduct a study on its "suitability" for that material, the bill states, which must be completed by April 1, 2024.

If signed by DeSantis, phosphogypsum would join a list of other "recyclable materials" in the bill that legislators say "contribute to problems of declining space in landfills" and could be used for road construction. Other materials already approved include tire rubber, ash reside from coal combustion byproducts, mixed plastic, construction steel and glass.

But phosphogypsum is reserved for storage in gypstack systems – not landfills – and the EPA has banned its use in projects for decades, although a spokesperson for the agency told CBS News that the material is allowed to be used for agricultural and indoor research, with restrictions. The agency can also approve specific uses for it "is at least as protective of human health as placement in a stack." If an application meets their requirements, including one for road construction, they can approve it, they said.

The bill does state that any phosphogypsum-centered plans for road construction would be used "in accordance with the conditions" of the EPA's approval, which the EPA spokesperson reiterated to CBS News.


It's - rather interesting that is a major concern in Florida though there are definitely health and environmental risks.

Is it enough to have faintly glowing roads?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed May 24, 2023 11:20 am

Fractalnavel wrote:Is it enough to have faintly glowing roads?

No, but it will give you lung cancer.

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed May 24, 2023 11:23 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Fractalnavel wrote:Is it enough to have faintly glowing roads?

No, but it will give you lung cancer.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed May 24, 2023 11:26 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:No, but it will give you lung cancer.

The party of protecting women and children, everyone! :D :clap:


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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 24, 2023 11:43 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Fractalnavel wrote:Is it enough to have faintly glowing roads?

No, but it will give you lung cancer.


I doubt anyone here works in road construction.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 24, 2023 11:47 am

Fractalnavel wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Florida lawmakers are pushing a new bill that could allow new roads be made from a "radioactive" mining waste called Phosphogypsum as a "road construction aggregate material."

Phosphogypsum is the waste left behind from mining phosphate rock, which is commonly used for producing fertilizer, and is known for containing "radioactive material," according to the EPA.

Phosphate rock contains "small amounts" of uranium and radium, the EPA says, and in the leftover waste, those elements decay to radium, which then becomes radon, a "potentially cancer-causing, radioactive gas," a spokesperson for the EPA told CBS News.

"Because the wastes are concentrated, phosphogypsum is more radioactive than the original phosphate rock," the EPA says on its website, with the spokesperson adding, "The Clean Air Act regulations require that that phosphogypsum be managed in engineered stacks to limit public exposure from emissions of radon and other radionuclides in the material."

[...]

The bill was ordered enrolled by the Florida House on May 1 and now awaits a signature from DeSantis. If signed, the Department of Transportation would be permitted to "undertake demonstration projects" using the material "to determine its feasibility as a paving material." The department would be required to conduct a study on its "suitability" for that material, the bill states, which must be completed by April 1, 2024.

If signed by DeSantis, phosphogypsum would join a list of other "recyclable materials" in the bill that legislators say "contribute to problems of declining space in landfills" and could be used for road construction. Other materials already approved include tire rubber, ash reside from coal combustion byproducts, mixed plastic, construction steel and glass.

But phosphogypsum is reserved for storage in gypstack systems – not landfills – and the EPA has banned its use in projects for decades, although a spokesperson for the agency told CBS News that the material is allowed to be used for agricultural and indoor research, with restrictions. The agency can also approve specific uses for it "is at least as protective of human health as placement in a stack." If an application meets their requirements, including one for road construction, they can approve it, they said.

The bill does state that any phosphogypsum-centered plans for road construction would be used "in accordance with the conditions" of the EPA's approval, which the EPA spokesperson reiterated to CBS News.


It's - rather interesting that is a major concern in Florida though there are definitely health and environmental risks.

Is it enough to have faintly glowing roads?


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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 24, 2023 11:47 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Ahhh Florida. Protecting poor white racists from the horrors of the Biden inauguration poem.

Sneaky bastard Biden. Allowing for a poem that has hidden hate messages and will cause confusion and indoctrination.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/us/miami ... index.html


Exactly what about that poem had hate speech?


The poet seems to have a rather negative view of all those fine folks at the capital on Jan. 6th.

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed May 24, 2023 12:14 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Fractalnavel wrote:Is it enough to have faintly glowing roads?


Think of all the power we can save!


And we'll call it the Marie Curie Memorial Highway
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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 24, 2023 12:19 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Florida lawmakers are pushing a new bill that could allow new roads be made from a "radioactive" mining waste called Phosphogypsum as a "road construction aggregate material."

Phosphogypsum is the waste left behind from mining phosphate rock, which is commonly used for producing fertilizer, and is known for containing "radioactive material," according to the EPA.

Phosphate rock contains "small amounts" of uranium and radium, the EPA says, and in the leftover waste, those elements decay to radium, which then becomes radon, a "potentially cancer-causing, radioactive gas," a spokesperson for the EPA told CBS News.

"Because the wastes are concentrated, phosphogypsum is more radioactive than the original phosphate rock," the EPA says on its website, with the spokesperson adding, "The Clean Air Act regulations require that that phosphogypsum be managed in engineered stacks to limit public exposure from emissions of radon and other radionuclides in the material."

[...]

The bill was ordered enrolled by the Florida House on May 1 and now awaits a signature from DeSantis. If signed, the Department of Transportation would be permitted to "undertake demonstration projects" using the material "to determine its feasibility as a paving material." The department would be required to conduct a study on its "suitability" for that material, the bill states, which must be completed by April 1, 2024.

If signed by DeSantis, phosphogypsum would join a list of other "recyclable materials" in the bill that legislators say "contribute to problems of declining space in landfills" and could be used for road construction. Other materials already approved include tire rubber, ash reside from coal combustion byproducts, mixed plastic, construction steel and glass.

But phosphogypsum is reserved for storage in gypstack systems – not landfills – and the EPA has banned its use in projects for decades, although a spokesperson for the agency told CBS News that the material is allowed to be used for agricultural and indoor research, with restrictions. The agency can also approve specific uses for it "is at least as protective of human health as placement in a stack." If an application meets their requirements, including one for road construction, they can approve it, they said.

The bill does state that any phosphogypsum-centered plans for road construction would be used "in accordance with the conditions" of the EPA's approval, which the EPA spokesperson reiterated to CBS News.


It's - rather interesting that is a major concern in Florida though there are definitely health and environmental risks.

Oh Jesus Christ. I heard the headline a few weeks ago and assumed they were going to be using reactor waste diluted in huge volumes of concrete or something; they’re going to be turning the entire roadway into radon sources?? I am never going back to that godforsaken piece of swamp ever again

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/401 ... -them/amp/ <<< relatedly, Florida’s tinpot autocracy rating has just been upgraded again
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed May 24, 2023 12:21 pm

Senkaku wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4017344-rick-scott-issues-travel-advisory-for-socialists-warning-florida-is-openly-hostile-to-them/amp/ <<< relatedly, Florida’s tinpot autocracy rating has just been upgraded again


scott mockingly declaring that florida is hostile enough to socialists for them to avoid going there is not the own he thinks it is.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed May 24, 2023 12:27 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Think of all the power we can save!


And we'll call it the Marie Curie Memorial Highway


Ngl glow in the dark pavement would be pretty badass.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed May 24, 2023 12:32 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Exactly what about that poem had hate speech?


The poet seems to have a rather negative view of all those fine folks at the capital on Jan. 6th.


Don’t forget she was also promoting socialism and making children lazy. I mean seriously the talk of helping each other, solving problems, and leaving a better country for the next generation. She is a monster!
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Wed May 24, 2023 12:34 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Florida lawmakers are pushing a new bill that could allow new roads be made from a "radioactive" mining waste called Phosphogypsum as a "road construction aggregate material."

Phosphogypsum is the waste left behind from mining phosphate rock, which is commonly used for producing fertilizer, and is known for containing "radioactive material," according to the EPA.


Well that doesn't sound at all like something done in exchange for some campaign funding. ;)
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