American Politics: Fiscal Cliffhanger

[Narland]

The base does not care. They eat up everything he says. Trump will be the nominee.

No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

It's a long way to the election, but as it stands (barring something drastic happening), Trump is the current front runner with a +50% point lead over the current contenders. The more Trump is attacked by the Left, the stronger the support will be for the half of the country that hates what they perceive as the lies and manipulation of the Left.

[Bradfordville]

The base does not care. They eat up everything he says. Trump will be the nominee.

No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

Is that why trump is so far ahead of his opponents in polling?

[Ifreann]

Stop using that word, that's not what it means, aaargh.

[American Legionaries]

Neil, Brett, and Amy would like a word with you.

Why, does Deblar have a huge pile of money?

Fortunately, it appears that they do not.

[Bradfordville]

He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work

The fuck you got against French Toast?

I am on the side of English toast.

[Ifreann]

Why, does Deblar have a huge pile of money?

Fortunately, it appears that they do not.

Then I can't imagine that the Supreme Court would want a word.

[Shrillland]

Another measure for the Plaza:

Texas: The eighth amendment would create the Centennial Parks Conservation Fund, which would be financed through legislative grants, Parks and Wildlife Department grants, and through investments. This fund would be used for creating and maintaining state parks.

[Eahland]

In the reverse, of course. Having a sensible plan is less beloved than "owning the libs lol 1!1!1!1!"

What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

It's really not. It's a bunch of PR stunts that are often actively counterproductive to bringing about the alleged goals. Like DeSantis's little war on Disney, which has so far had the primary effect of giving Disney big tax breaks while discouraging them from bringing money into the Florida economy.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

the fourth richest man in the world is backing Tim Scott?

[American Legionaries]

What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

It's really not. It's a bunch of PR stunts that are often actively counterproductive to bringing about the alleged goals. Like DeSantis's little war on Disney, which has so far had the primary effect of giving Disney big tax breaks while discouraging them from bringing money into the Florida economy.

That would seem like the opposite of "owning the libs" then, wouldn't it?

[The Black Forrest]

What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

It's really not. It's a bunch of PR stunts that are often actively counterproductive to bringing about the alleged goals. Like DeSantis's little war on Disney, which has so far had the primary effect of giving Disney big tax breaks while discouraging them from bringing money into the Florida economy.

Yup. Demagoguery for the win!

Epcot was going to get a massive upgrade. Canceled. Imagineering was going to relocate to Florida. Canceled and now the company is looking to help the employees how moved there; move back.

I am waiting for when the new taxes kick in to pay for the police, fire, and power (possibly water).

If DeSantis somehow gets elected in the future, the people deserve the misery he will bring.

[The Black Forrest]

the fourth richest man in the world is backing Tim Scott?

Which one. Google shows a few people.

Not surprised, the wealthy class will get a massive gain with him has President. The other America? Not so much.

[Senkaku]

the fourth richest man in the world is backing Tim Scott?

Watching Trump try his hardest not to say the n-word in primary debates should be an interesting experience.

What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

It's really not. It's a bunch of PR stunts that are often actively counterproductive to bringing about the alleged goals. Like DeSantis's little war on Disney, which has so far had the primary effect of giving Disney big tax breaks while discouraging them from bringing money into the Florida economy.

Yeah, but it makes the base happy, shows the donors he's a fighter, and keeps the journalists who might otherwise actually do some serious investigative work busy with an endless stream of much higher-engagement culture war coverage. The stated goals are just words, the real end goal here is just the acquisition of power.

[Bradfordville]

the fourth richest man in the world is backing Tim Scott?

Watching Trump try his hardest not to say the n-word in primary debates should be an interesting experience.

I feel like that would be too on the nose of an attack, but then again trump never fails to shame us all. But I can totally imagine trump questioning Tim's blackness on live TV, like "why's your name Tim? That sounds like an awfully white name. I've done more for black people than you did anyways, so they're not gonna save you now."

But when I consider the Ron DeSantis meatball moniker, it makes me concerned for what kind of stereotyping Trump might pull on T.S.

[Narland]

Non-existent?? Explain the middle and late USSR and its satellites. Explain North Korea. Explain Cuba. (In fact, I don't think there's ever been a free, progressive socialist society maybe with the exception of the first 5-10 years of the USSR). Also, I don't see how that has anything to do with Schmitt, that was a complete non-sequitur.

If the USSR was socially conservative, then how do you explain their suppression of the Russian Orthodox Church, the monarchy, and other aspects of traditional Russian culture? They might not have been individualist liberals, but that doesn't make them conservative. And their radicalism went beyond merely changing the economic system.

The USSR (as Marxists) believed that traditional (what today would be called by some hetero-normative) sexuality and nuclear family were bourgeoisie social constructs of oppression. Traditional marriage was outlawed and suppressed. After a decade or two, the top-down imposed sexually liberated were not producing enough offspring for the Party's economic aspirations. The concern deepened with the threat of Nazi Germany. Orthodox priests were called out of the salt mines to create rules and regulations for the least amount of familial bonds conducive to Party goals. Scientific Communism then conceded that humans organically needed at least enough familial bonds for Soviet Socialism to function. The priests were sent back to the gulags.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

It's a long way to the election, but as it stands (barring something drastic happening), Trump is the current front runner with a +50% point lead over the current contenders. The more Trump is attacked by the Left, the stronger the support will be for the half of the country that hates what they perceive as the lies and manipulation of the Left.

That is one of the reasons why the Left will attack him more. A worse candidate for them to kick the ass of. This reminds me of a few congressional races where the Democrats attacked the candidate they wanted to win the Republican Primary for being “too extreme”, and supported the moderate, knowing it would be about as helpful as an endorsement from the communist party.

[San Lumen]

No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

It's a long way to the election, but as it stands (barring something drastic happening), Trump is the current front runner with a +50% point lead over the current contenders. The more Trump is attacked by the Left, the stronger the support will be for the half of the country that hates what they perceive as the lies and manipulation of the Left.

If he gets the nomination I can’t see him winning this time. Candidates who gave been indicted don’t win.

If Trump is the nominee there will be serious consequences downballot for Republicans.

[Narland]

It's a long way to the election, but as it stands (barring something drastic happening), Trump is the current front runner with a +50% point lead over the current contenders. The more Trump is attacked by the Left, the stronger the support will be for the half of the country that hates what they perceive as the lies and manipulation of the Left.

If he gets the nomination I can’t see him winning this time. Candidates who gave been indicted don’t win.

If Trump is the nominee there will be serious consequences downballot for Republicans.

That's the thing. The rural right is livid. What they see isn't a person being fairly indicted.

What they see are statutes being twisted by petty leftists, hostile jurists and corrupt politicians from what they perceive as blue hell-holes willing to go to any length to vilify Trump by maliciously disregarding due process of New York statute. The DOJ and FBI have already been shown that they knew the Russian Collusion accusations were concocted by the Clinton campaign and proceeded to maliciously attempt to indict the President of the United States. If the Left is willing to frame one of the most powerful men in America just because he stands up for Red State America, what will those same despots do to them when they get the chance?

That is the mindset that many of the right bring to the 2024 GOP primaries.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

If he gets the nomination I can’t see him winning this time. Candidates who gave been indicted don’t win.

If Trump is the nominee there will be serious consequences downballot for Republicans.

That's the thing. The rural right is livid. What they see isn't a person being fairly indicted.

What they see are statutes being twisted by petty leftists, hostile jurists and corrupt politicians from what they perceive as blue hell-holes willing to go to any length to vilify Trump by maliciously disregarding due process of New York statute. The DOJ and FBI have already been shown that they knew the Russian Collusion accusations were concocted by the Clinton campaign and proceeded to maliciously attempt to indict the President of the United States. If the Left is willing to frame one of the most powerful men in America just because he stands up for Red State America, what will those same despots do to them when they get the chance?

That is the mindset that many of the right bring to the 2024 GOP primaries.

And when they reach the election, they get to enjoy a 350 electoral vote Joe Biden victory.

[Shrillland]

If he gets the nomination I can’t see him winning this time. Candidates who gave been indicted don’t win.

If Trump is the nominee there will be serious consequences downballot for Republicans.

That's the thing. The rural right is livid. What they see isn't a person being fairly indicted.

What they see are statutes being twisted by petty leftists, hostile jurists and corrupt politicians from what they perceive as blue hell-holes willing to go to any length to vilify Trump by maliciously disregarding due process of New York statute. The DOJ and FBI have already been shown that they knew the Russian Collusion accusations were concocted by the Clinton campaign and proceeded to maliciously attempt to indict the President of the United States. If the Left is willing to frame one of the most powerful men in America just because he stands up for Red State America, what will those same despots do to them when they get the chance?

That is the mindset that many of the right bring to the 2024 GOP primaries.

And this is why looking into the future brings me little hope, besides that whole "climate change fucking the world" mess. Hatred and self-isolation into ideological bolt holes will give eventually, the only question is, how? Alas, some of these cultural issues mean Lefties like myself aren't willing to hand out any olive branches particularly on abortion and the "Trans Question" that's been so massively inflated.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

That's the thing. The rural right is livid. What they see isn't a person being fairly indicted.

What they see are statutes being twisted by petty leftists, hostile jurists and corrupt politicians from what they perceive as blue hell-holes willing to go to any length to vilify Trump by maliciously disregarding due process of New York statute. The DOJ and FBI have already been shown that they knew the Russian Collusion accusations were concocted by the Clinton campaign and proceeded to maliciously attempt to indict the President of the United States. If the Left is willing to frame one of the most powerful men in America just because he stands up for Red State America, what will those same despots do to them when they get the chance?

That is the mindset that many of the right bring to the 2024 GOP primaries.

And this is why looking into the future brings me little hope, besides that whole "climate change fucking the world" mess. Hatred and self-isolation into ideological bolt holes will give eventually, the only question is, how? Alas, some of these cultural issues mean Lefties like myself aren't willing to hand out any olive branches particularly on abortion and the "Trans Question" that's been so massively inflated.

Last time there was an “X Question”, there was also a “Final Solution”.

[San Lumen]

Closing libraries because you didn't like some of the books in them?

Seems like a solid move, if they won't get rid of the books.

If you don’t want to read certain books fine but don’t prevent others from reading them.

[Alcala-Cordel]

The base does not care. They eat up everything he says. Trump will be the nominee.

No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

Many of his supporters don't want anyone else right now, and for the moment there aren't any opponents influential enough to credibly threaten his chances. The only way Trump loses the nomination is if he's legally prevented from doing so, which would be really funny but also allow DeSantis to take power. That would probably be worse.

[American Legionaries]

Seems like a solid move, if they won't get rid of the books.

If you don’t want to read certain books fine but don’t prevent others from reading them.

Why not?

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

It's a long way to the election, but as it stands (barring something drastic happening), Trump is the current front runner with a +50% point lead over the current contenders. The more Trump is attacked by the Left, the stronger the support will be for the half of the country that hates what they perceive as the lies and manipulation of the Left.

If he gets the nomination I can’t see him winning this time. Candidates who gave been indicted don’t win.

If Trump is the nominee there will be serious consequences downballot for Republicans.

who else stands a chance? biden’s ratings are awful. the right sees him as an mentally-challenged corrupt fool, the left sees him as having failed to fix trump’s policies, and everyone sees his mismanagement. bernie isn’t running. desantis doesn’t have the wide support to seriously fight trump. trump could beat the guy easily by bringing up his alleged drinking with underage students and calling him a groomer. ramaswamy is even less known and not rightist enough. the left hates Manchin and the right doesn’t care. who does that leave? Kanye? Yang?