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Will The US Raise The Debt Ceiling Using the House Proposal as The Basis?

Yes
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Cook-Out
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Postby Cook-Out » Mon May 22, 2023 9:21 am

South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711

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Postby Port Caverton » Mon May 22, 2023 9:26 am

Cook-Out wrote:South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711

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Postby Elwher » Mon May 22, 2023 9:26 am

Cook-Out wrote:South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711


A low bar, to be sure.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 22, 2023 9:27 am

Cook-Out wrote:South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711



Trump will be the nominee and if he’s not he’s going to run third party and run third party candidates for senate too.

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Postby Bradfordville » Mon May 22, 2023 9:30 am

Cook-Out wrote:South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711


He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work
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Cook-Out
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Postby Cook-Out » Mon May 22, 2023 9:51 am

Bradfordville wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711


He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work


Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Also, I like French toast.
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Postby Arval Va » Mon May 22, 2023 9:53 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:

He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work


Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Do you think competency mattered last time?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 22, 2023 9:54 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:

He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work


Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Also, I like French toast.


The base does not care. They eat up everything he says. Trump will be the nominee.

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Postby Cook-Out » Mon May 22, 2023 9:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Also, I like French toast.


The base does not care. They eat up everything he says. Trump will be the nominee.


No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

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Postby American Legionaries » Mon May 22, 2023 10:00 am

Arval Va wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Do you think competency mattered last time?


Yes.

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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Mon May 22, 2023 10:00 am

Cook-Out wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The base does not care. They eat up everything he says. Trump will be the nominee.


No, he will not. Mark my words. The trump fanatics do not define the Republican party.

Cope and seethe. The Republicans unleashed this monster upon us all, now it will consume them from within. The Trump fanatics appear to be just short of all the Republicans.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Mon May 22, 2023 10:01 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Do you think competency mattered last time?


Yes.

In the reverse, of course. Having a sensible plan is less beloved than "owning the libs lol 1!1!1!1!"
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon May 22, 2023 10:05 am

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Yes.

In the reverse, of course. Having a sensible plan is less beloved than "owning the libs lol 1!1!1!1!"


What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon May 22, 2023 10:10 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:

He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work


Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Also, I like French toast.

Assuming he lets his opponents get in a word edgewise.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Mon May 22, 2023 10:14 am

American Legionaries wrote:
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:In the reverse, of course. Having a sensible plan is less beloved than "owning the libs lol 1!1!1!1!"


What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

Closing libraries because you didn't like some of the books in them?
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Mon May 22, 2023 10:17 am

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

Closing libraries because you didn't like some of the books in them?

AL thinks he is funny.

His whole goal is to act as un-sensible as possible to see who bites.
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon May 22, 2023 10:21 am

The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
What you call "owning the libs" is what a president is supposed to do.

Closing libraries because you didn't like some of the books in them?


Seems like a solid move, if they won't get rid of the books.

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Postby American Legionaries » Mon May 22, 2023 10:23 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
The Rio Grande River Basin wrote:Closing libraries because you didn't like some of the books in them?

AL thinks he is funny.

His whole goal is to act as un-sensible as possible to see who bites.


I am funny, but Nationstates is a serious place.

And my goal is to create a decent society for me and my family, if you consider that "un-sensible" then that's just the way it is.

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Postby Tarsonis » Mon May 22, 2023 10:24 am

Bradfordville wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:South Carolinia Senator Tim Scott has announced his candidacy for president. I personally think that he is the best Republican candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... w-00097711


He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work


The fuck you got against French Toast?
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Postby Elwher » Mon May 22, 2023 10:44 am

Arval Va wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Do you think competency mattered last time?


No. The last time it was "I'm not Trump" that mattered
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Postby Deblar » Mon May 22, 2023 10:47 am

Cook-Out wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:

He's a bland unknown who has the personality of French toast. Trump is gonna eat his ass up and spit him back out in 5 seconds before turning back to deliver further blows to Ron DeSantis, while Ron tries to make his "attack trump without attacking trump too much," strategy work


Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Also, I like French toast.

Insults and complaining have been all he really has to offer since 2016. If Republican voters were actually willing to see past that then we wouldn’t be having this discussion

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Mon May 22, 2023 10:50 am

Elwher wrote:
Arval Va wrote:Do you think competency mattered last time?


No. The last time it was "I'm not Trump" that mattered

More like who is the most competent out of the two incompetent politicians.
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon May 22, 2023 10:52 am

Deblar wrote:
Cook-Out wrote:
Trump will utterly fail in the primary debate. The other candidates might not have the wide support, but they are all intelligent and good speakers and people will see that all he has to offer is insults and constant complaining about the 2020 election.

Also, I like French toast.

Insults and complaining have been all he really has to offer since 2016. If Republican voters were actually willing to see past that then we wouldn’t be having this discussion


Neil, Brett, and Amy would like a word with you.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 22, 2023 10:55 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Deblar wrote:Insults and complaining have been all he really has to offer since 2016. If Republican voters were actually willing to see past that then we wouldn’t be having this discussion


Neil, Brett, and Amy would like a word with you.

Why, does Deblar have a huge pile of money?

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Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Mon May 22, 2023 11:53 am

Are liberals anti-science?

Nope.

Conservatives tend to question science more than liberals or moderates. While liberals do have a small history of disagreement with the science, the left has nowadays embraced the consensus of sicence.
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