American Politics: The Speaker's Cornered

[San Lumen]

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1181/vote_118_1_00133.htm

Darrel James Papillion confirmed 59-31 to be District Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana

the west has fallen

I don't get the reference.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

the west has fallen

I don't get the reference.

you have an innocent soul and I will not ruin it.

[HISPIDA]

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1181/vote_118_1_00133.htm

Darrel James Papillion confirmed 59-31 to be District Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana

the west has fallen

billions must die?

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

the west has fallen

billions must die?

No billions must judge.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

anyways https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1663716369253187584 they voted on the rules for the upcoming vote.

[Stylan]

the west has fallen

I don't get the reference.

Obnoxious terminally online RW meme, extremely worn out by now


COAL

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

I don't get the reference.

Obnoxious terminally online RW meme, extremely worn out by now


COAL

No I think they are making fun of it in this context.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbs19news.com/story/4900493 ... ng-turnout

Charlottesville and Albemarle County leading the way in early voting turnout in Virginia.

Keep in mind this is only the primary which is officially June 20th.

the state is voting for House of Delegates and State Senate and some county and municipal elections in November.

Republicans narrowly control the House 52-48 and Democrats control the State Senate 22-18 having gaining a seat earlier this year.

[Haganham]

Why do you think rich people act like the world is falling apart every time any of their ventures fail to produce more return tohen predicted?

There's a big difference between venture capitalism, and leveraging all your assets in hopes they somehow increase resale value. This plan Umeria is spinning is only technically possible, and beyond stupid to actually try and apply.

Oh no. This is super common among the rich. It allows them to benefit from their capital gains without actually selling the shares and producing a tax liablity.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unrealized ... 1636409525

[San Lumen]

https://abc7ny.com/nj-councilwoman-shot ... /13320349/

Arrest made in murder of New Jersey councilwoman Eunice Dwumfour

[Cannot think of a name]

https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1663686942918057986 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

So I guess what that ad was all about, they needed to paint it as a win and get the voters to rally support because it wasn't that big of a win.

[Pizza Friday Forever91]

It is now May 31st in EST, and that means we only have to await 2 more days until Fort Bragg is renamed on June 2nd!

[Myrensis]

https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1663686942918057986 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

I mean, I would have preferred that Biden hold his ground and either force the GOP to cave or invoke the 14th. The Republicans on the Supreme Court might be hacks, but they're also shameless whores for big business who would be leaning on them hard to avoid a default, even if it means taking away the gun their party likes to hold to the nations head every time they want to throw a tantrum about losing the White House.

But failing that this deal does seem like it was just about the best possible outcome that could have been hoped for, since Republicans appear to have gotten completely hosed and are trying to claim symbolic 'wins' on shit they all ready controlled (spending for the next 2 years) or that was happening anyway (student loan repayments resuming).

Even the energy permitting reform is a split decision at best, since green energy projects get stuck in permitting hell as often as fossil fuel stuff. So they'll get to throw a bone to their dimwitted base about getting a few more shitty projects approved, meanwhile the transition to renewables will accelerate. And it will make Joe Manchin happy, which is unfortunately still a necessity for the Democrats.

[Heavenly Assault]

I guess I'll vote for Kennedy in 2024.

[Thermodolia]

https://twitter.com/Fritschner/status/1663686942918057986 HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

I mean, I would have preferred that Biden hold his ground and either force the GOP to cave or invoke the 14th. The Republicans on the Supreme Court might be hacks, but they're also shameless whores for big business who would be leaning on them hard to avoid a default, even if it means taking away the gun their party likes to hold to the nations head every time they want to throw a tantrum about losing the White House.

But failing that this deal does seem like it was just about the best possible outcome that could have been hoped for, since Republicans appear to have gotten completely hosed and are trying to claim symbolic 'wins' on shit they all ready controlled (spending for the next 2 years) or that was happening anyway (student loan repayments resuming).

Even the energy permitting reform is a split decision at best, since green energy projects get stuck in permitting hell as often as fossil fuel stuff. So they'll get to throw a bone to their dimwitted base about getting a few more shitty projects approved, meanwhile the transition to renewables will accelerate. And it will make Joe Manchin happy, which is unfortunately still a necessity for the Democrats.

The other good thing is that this deal extends the limit for two years which means we won’t deal with it until summer of 2025.

That’s a big win for Biden as republicans only wanted the limit to be extended through the end of the year.

[Thermodolia]

Speaker elections part 2: Far-right Boologoo.

Speaking of the Far-Right, they are floating the threat of McCarthy's Speakership over the debt ceiling deal.

It's not a given if they will go through with it, but McCarthy appears to be on the clock. The deal will likely get enough votes in the House to pass though it might cost McCarthy his seat - unless he's forced to negotiate with Democrats to keep his Speaker Seat.

I could definitely see the democrats supporting him as speaker, especially as he’s shown that he can negotiate things. And democrats will most definitely negotiate to get some power/perks in favor of supporting him.

[Umeria]

I mean, I would have preferred that Biden hold his ground and either force the GOP to cave or invoke the 14th. The Republicans on the Supreme Court might be hacks, but they're also shameless whores for big business who would be leaning on them hard to avoid a default, even if it means taking away the gun their party likes to hold to the nations head every time they want to throw a tantrum about losing the White House.

But failing that this deal does seem like it was just about the best possible outcome that could have been hoped for, since Republicans appear to have gotten completely hosed and are trying to claim symbolic 'wins' on shit they all ready controlled (spending for the next 2 years) or that was happening anyway (student loan repayments resuming).

Even the energy permitting reform is a split decision at best, since green energy projects get stuck in permitting hell as often as fossil fuel stuff. So they'll get to throw a bone to their dimwitted base about getting a few more shitty projects approved, meanwhile the transition to renewables will accelerate. And it will make Joe Manchin happy, which is unfortunately still a necessity for the Democrats.

The other good thing is that this deal extends the limit for two years which means we won’t deal with it until summer of 2025.

That’s a big win for Biden as republicans only wanted the limit to be extended through the end of the year.

Could have been infinity years though...

[Thermodolia]

The other good thing is that this deal extends the limit for two years which means we won’t deal with it until summer of 2025.

That’s a big win for Biden as republicans only wanted the limit to be extended through the end of the year.

Could have been infinity years though...

Or it could have not. Better to get two years than none at all.

Either way best to make removing the debt limit a priority in 2024 elections for democrats. If they can maintain control of both houses and the White House then they could make the debt limit as high as they want

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Speaking of the Far-Right, they are floating the threat of McCarthy's Speakership over the debt ceiling deal.

It's not a given if they will go through with it, but McCarthy appears to be on the clock. The deal will likely get enough votes in the House to pass though it might cost McCarthy his seat - unless he's forced to negotiate with Democrats to keep his Speaker Seat.

I could definitely see the democrats supporting him as speaker, especially as he’s shown that he can negotiate things. And democrats will most definitely negotiate to get some power/perks in favor of supporting him.

If I were the dems, I’d be pushing and shoving for a more moderate Republican. Hell, maybe someone outside of congress. Ahnald for Speaker anyone?

[Ngelmish]

I could definitely see the democrats supporting him as speaker, especially as he’s shown that he can negotiate things. And democrats will most definitely negotiate to get some power/perks in favor of supporting him.

If I were the dems, I’d be pushing and shoving for a more moderate Republican. Hell, maybe someone outside of congress. Ahnald for Speaker anyone?

More fundamentally, a deal with Democrats would keep McCarthy alive for the rest of this term, but how does he win reelection after infuriating Republican voters? To say nothing of the fact that he'd have to bring at least a couple of other Republicans into the deal with him to have 218 total votes. Maybe Brian Fitzpatrick could survive switching parties, but there's not many Republicans who could, and certainly not McCarthy. Being pushed out by the Freedom Caucus like Boehner would be humiliating, but getting Democratic support ends with the same overall result

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

If I were the dems, I’d be pushing and shoving for a more moderate Republican. Hell, maybe someone outside of congress. Ahnald for Speaker anyone?

More fundamentally, a deal with Democrats would keep McCarthy alive for the rest of this term, but how does he win reelection after infuriating Republican voters? To say nothing of the fact that he'd have to bring at least a couple of other Republicans into the deal with him to have 218 total votes. Maybe Brian Fitzpatrick could survive switching parties, but there's not many Republicans who could, and certainly not McCarthy. Being pushed out by the Freedom Caucus like Boehner would be humiliating, but getting Democratic support ends with the same overall result

Yes. But McCarthy desperately wants to be speaker, no matter how long. I’d suggest the Tuesday Group might just be able to survive jumping.

[Thermodolia]

If I were the dems, I’d be pushing and shoving for a more moderate Republican. Hell, maybe someone outside of congress. Ahnald for Speaker anyone?

More fundamentally, a deal with Democrats would keep McCarthy alive for the rest of this term, but how does he win reelection after infuriating Republican voters? To say nothing of the fact that he'd have to bring at least a couple of other Republicans into the deal with him to have 218 total votes. Maybe Brian Fitzpatrick could survive switching parties, but there's not many Republicans who could, and certainly not McCarthy. Being pushed out by the Freedom Caucus like Boehner would be humiliating, but getting Democratic support ends with the same overall result

He doesn’t.

And honestly it would actually help the democrats has the MAGA nuts would most definitely run someone against him and lead to vote splitting in a very republican district.

Would be fucking funny to see a democrat being elected in CA-20

[Incelastan]

Assuming that this country doesn't collapse, I'm gonna predict that Dems gain pretty heavily in the House next year, make a slight pickup in the Senate, would be larger, but Joe Manchin's seat is unavailable, even if he wins. Roy Cooper will be re-elected, there will be a one or two statehouse gain by Dems. Trump will lose, but only after a bruising primary season making the last Republicans who aren't MAGA bolt the party for good. Sadly, this will pull Dems even more into the center, which is not where they ultimately want to be, creating more friction with the progressive camp.

[Ryemarch]

Ahnald for Speaker anyone?

I would genuinely love to see it.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Ahnald for Speaker anyone?

I would genuinely love to see it.

“AH AHM ZE SPEAKERNATOR.”