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Will Kevin McCarthy Remain Speaker?

Yes
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29%
Yes, But He'll Have Democratic Support
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No
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IDK/Other
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Total votes : 87

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:59 am

So I suppose we can expect armed overthrow of the government by teatime.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:04 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:So I suppose we can expect armed overthrow of the government by teatime.

Tea time? What is this un-American drink?! We threw your kind's drink into the harbor!
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Postby Kaskalma » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:18 am

Quick question (please don’t hurt me), why are people so anti right-to-work law? I admit I don’t know much about unions or the law, but to me it seems more totalitarian not to have it because it is forcing someone to support an organization, even if they don’t want to? I don’t lean any way in particular, that’s just my uneducated observation.

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Postby -Astoria- » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:22 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:So I suppose we can expect armed overthrow of the government by teatime.

Tea time? What is this un-American drink?! We threw your kind's drink into the harbor!

Sweet tea: :blink: :unsure:


'QAnon Shaman' freed early from federal prison
The US Capitol rioter known as the QAnon Shaman has been released early from prison to a halfway house.

Jacob Chansley, 35, was sentenced to 41 months in prison in November 2021. He was originally projected to be released this July.

He has been moved to a "residential re-entry management" facility in Phoenix, Arizona, and is expected be released on 25 May, according to prison records.

He received one of the longest terms handed down to any of the rioters.

Chansley - convicted of a felony count of obstruction - was one of nearly 1,000 criminal defendants charged in the 6 January 2021 riot, when Trump supporters stormed the Capitol as lawmakers certified President Joe Biden's election victory.

His lawyer, Albert Watkins, said in a statement that the early release of his client was "appropriate" and he should be "permitted to move forward with the next stage of what undoubtedly will be a law-abiding and enriching life".

With his face paint, horns and bearskin headdress, Chansley - an aspiring actor - became the notorious face of the raid on the seat of American democracy as his picture was beamed around the world.

He recently re-emerged in the national spotlight after Fox News host Tucker Carlson argued the riot was mostly peaceful, airing footage of the self-styled QAnon Shaman wandering the halls of Congress with police officers either escorting him, or making no attempt to bar his way.

Federal prosecutors said Mr Carlson had omitted key parts of Chansley's actions.

Chansley left a note on the dias of the Senate chamber that said: "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming!"

His alias was a reference to a baseless conspiracy theory whose adherents believe former President Donald Trump was waging a secret war against elite Satan-worshipping paedophiles.

9 service members dead after Army Black Hawk helicopters crash in Kentucky
Officials confirmed Thursday morning that nine U.S. Army service members were killed when two Black Hawk helicopters crashed in Kentucky on Wednesday night.

The helicopters were from Fort Campbell, an army installation on the Kentucky-Tennessee border, and they crashed in Trigg County, Kentucky.

Fort Campbell said the crash, at about 10 p.m., involved two 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) helicopters on a routine training mission. They were HH60 Black Hawks, the fort said.

Brigadier general John Lubas, Deputy Commander of the 101st Airborne Division, said Thursday morning that there were five people in one helicopter and four in the other, a "fairly typical" arrangement, and said that the aircraft were practicing a "multi-ship formation" using night vision goggles. Lubas said the helicopters were practicing medical evacuation drills, but the crash appears to have occurred while they were flying, not while doing those exercises.

Lubas said that identities of the service members would not be shared until next of kin were notified. He said that the U.S. Army has deployed an aircraft safety team to investigate the crash.

"The command is currently focused on caring for the servicemembers and their families," the fort said, adding that the incident is under investigation. Lubas said that the Army is doing "everything we can" to notify families as quickly as possible. Some are outside the United States, he said, and he was not able to say when families would be notified.

Kentucky governor Andy Beshear said Thursday morning that he and Tennessee governor Bill Lee were "committed" to supporting the families who lost loved ones.

"There are no state lines when it comes to taking care of these families and helping them with their grief," he said.

Beshear tweeted Thursday morning that he was traveling to Fort Campbell "to support our troops and their families after last night's tragic incident."

Kentucky State Police, the state Division of Emergency Management and local officials all responded to the scene on Wednesday night. Lubas said that other Army aircraft had been in the air, and that the fort was notified "through multiple means" to the incident.

The helicopters crashed in an open field across from a residential area, Lubas said, so there were no casualties or injuries on the ground. Fort Campbell is about 60 miles northwest of Nashville.

Last month, two Tennessee National Guard pilots were killed when their Black Hawk helicopter crashed in Alabama during a routine training mission.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:25 am

-Astoria- wrote:'QAnon Shaman' freed early from federal prison
The US Capitol rioter known as the QAnon Shaman has been released early from prison to a halfway house.

Jacob Chansley, 35, was sentenced to 41 months in prison in November 2021. He was originally projected to be released this July.

He has been moved to a "residential re-entry management" facility in Phoenix, Arizona, and is expected be released on 25 May, according to prison records.

He received one of the longest terms handed down to any of the rioters.

Chansley - convicted of a felony count of obstruction - was one of nearly 1,000 criminal defendants charged in the 6 January 2021 riot, when Trump supporters stormed the Capitol as lawmakers certified President Joe Biden's election victory.

His lawyer, Albert Watkins, said in a statement that the early release of his client was "appropriate" and he should be "permitted to move forward with the next stage of what undoubtedly will be a law-abiding and enriching life".

With his face paint, horns and bearskin headdress, Chansley - an aspiring actor - became the notorious face of the raid on the seat of American democracy as his picture was beamed around the world.

He recently re-emerged in the national spotlight after Fox News host Tucker Carlson argued the riot was mostly peaceful, airing footage of the self-styled QAnon Shaman wandering the halls of Congress with police officers either escorting him, or making no attempt to bar his way.

Federal prosecutors said Mr Carlson had omitted key parts of Chansley's actions.

Chansley left a note on the dias of the Senate chamber that said: "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming!"

His alias was a reference to a baseless conspiracy theory whose adherents believe former President Donald Trump was waging a secret war against elite Satan-worshipping paedophiles.

>committ treason
>gets freed not even 3 years after committing treason
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Tea time? What is this un-American drink?! We threw your kind's drink into the harbor!

Sweet tea: :blink: :unsure:

How could I have forgotten....
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Postby Diuhon » Fri Mar 31, 2023 4:36 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Diuhon wrote:Ah. Finally, something that warms my dead cold democratic heart!


It reminds me of this article:

South Ayrshire Golf club owner loses 2020 presidential election
Donald Trump, a South Ayrshire golf club owner has lost the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden, after running again to be re-elected for a second presidential term.

[...]

Ah, my heart! It beats!

An extra in the 1992 film ‘Home Alone 2: Lost In New York’ has been indicted on fraud-related charges.

The un-named extra has just one line in the film – “Down the hall and to the left” – which is coincidentally the same words that officers will use when showing him to his jail cell in the coming weeks.

Since his 1992 role, the actor gained occasional roles play-acting the part of a successful businessman and, more recently, pretending to be the US President.

He is expected to be arrested in coming days once authorities can find cuffs small enough for his tiny little hands.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:07 am

While the media is paying attention to Trump, DeSantis is quietly changing Florida campaign law. Florida's Resign To Run law requires that elected officials, get this, resign their current office before running for another office. DeSantis apparently prefers to hold on to the Governor's Mansion. Does this suggest that he's not confident of winning the presidency? Or maybe he wants to maintain a contingency plan.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:52 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:So I suppose we can expect armed overthrow of the government by teatime.

Tea time? What is this un-American drink?! We threw your kind's drink into the harbor!

y'all have never heard of sweet tea, huh? oh, bless your heart.
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Postby Page » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:01 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:'QAnon Shaman' freed early from federal prison
The US Capitol rioter known as the QAnon Shaman has been released early from prison to a halfway house.

Jacob Chansley, 35, was sentenced to 41 months in prison in November 2021. He was originally projected to be released this July.

He has been moved to a "residential re-entry management" facility in Phoenix, Arizona, and is expected be released on 25 May, according to prison records.

He received one of the longest terms handed down to any of the rioters.

Chansley - convicted of a felony count of obstruction - was one of nearly 1,000 criminal defendants charged in the 6 January 2021 riot, when Trump supporters stormed the Capitol as lawmakers certified President Joe Biden's election victory.

His lawyer, Albert Watkins, said in a statement that the early release of his client was "appropriate" and he should be "permitted to move forward with the next stage of what undoubtedly will be a law-abiding and enriching life".

With his face paint, horns and bearskin headdress, Chansley - an aspiring actor - became the notorious face of the raid on the seat of American democracy as his picture was beamed around the world.

He recently re-emerged in the national spotlight after Fox News host Tucker Carlson argued the riot was mostly peaceful, airing footage of the self-styled QAnon Shaman wandering the halls of Congress with police officers either escorting him, or making no attempt to bar his way.

Federal prosecutors said Mr Carlson had omitted key parts of Chansley's actions.

Chansley left a note on the dias of the Senate chamber that said: "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming!"

His alias was a reference to a baseless conspiracy theory whose adherents believe former President Donald Trump was waging a secret war against elite Satan-worshipping paedophiles.

>committ treason
>gets freed not even 3 years after committing treason


This dude's an ass clown as is the lot of his ilk but I don't think brutal sentences are good for anybody. What the feds can do to the Jan 6 crowd, they can do to anybody who illegally occupies or damages federal buildings. In Atlanta, the state authorities are presently trying to stick absolute bullshit domestic terrorism charges to the Stop Cop City movement.

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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:01 am

So, there's actually a second hush payment - and one less well-known: the grand jury is reportedly examining a $150,000 payment to former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who claimed affair with Trump in 2006.

It could explain why there are 30 charges against Trump in this case, or the fact there's that many to hide just the Daniels payment. Either way, we could expect additional charges to come or this hush payment used as an example to establish a pattern.
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Postby Deblar » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:12 am

Hispida wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Tea time? What is this un-American drink?! We threw your kind's drink into the harbor!

y'all have never heard of sweet tea, huh? oh, bless your heart.

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:17 am

Is it true Mike Pence might be standing for president this time around?
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:18 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Is it true Mike Pence might be standing for president this time around?

Mike Pence doesn't really stand for anything.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:20 am

Deblar wrote:
Hispida wrote:y'all have never heard of sweet tea, huh? oh, bless your heart.

One of the only good things to come out of the South


Kind of a hot take for a southerner but sweet tea does not taste good at all.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:21 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Deblar wrote:One of the only good things to come out of the South


Kind of a hot take for a southerner but sweet tea does not taste good at all.

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Postby Eahland » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:38 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Is it true Mike Pence might be standing for president this time around?

Mike Pence doesn't really stand for anything.

He stands when a woman who isn't his wife enters the room.

So he can rush out in terror.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:47 am

Eahland wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Mike Pence doesn't really stand for anything.

He stands when a woman who isn't his wife enters the room.

So he can rush out in terror.


Indeed. If they want to get him to talk, tell him he will have to have lunch or dinner with another woman.
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Postby Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:15 am

Eahland wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Mike Pence doesn't really stand for anything.

He stands when a woman who isn't his wife enters the room.

So he can rush out in terror.


Funny how a lot of guys are emulating Mike Pence in this these days, mostly as a way to avoid false accusations. Though my approach would be to simply record everything, so that I would just have the weight of evidence on my side. And maybe leave the door ajar rather than fully closed. Perhaps even have a third party as a witness.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:25 am

Incelastan wrote:
Eahland wrote:He stands when a woman who isn't his wife enters the room.

So he can rush out in terror.


Funny how a lot of guys are emulating Mike Pence in this these days, mostly as a way to avoid false accusations. Though my approach would be to simply record everything, so that I would just have the weight of evidence on my side. And maybe leave the door ajar rather than fully closed. Perhaps even have a third party as a witness.


Oh FFS. Morons.

To this day; I still go have dinner, coffee and lunch with women who aren’t my wife.

Record everything? That’s a great deal of paranoia. Do you tell them? Do you get any second dates?
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Postby Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:28 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
Funny how a lot of guys are emulating Mike Pence in this these days, mostly as a way to avoid false accusations. Though my approach would be to simply record everything, so that I would just have the weight of evidence on my side. And maybe leave the door ajar rather than fully closed. Perhaps even have a third party as a witness.


Oh FFS. Morons.

To this day; I still go have dinner, coffee and lunch with women who aren’t my wife.

Record everything? That’s a great deal of paranoia. Do you tell them? Do you get any second dates?


Well, first of all, I don't date. Dating is basically paying for someone's dinner while they sit there and lie to your face. I was referring to workplace meetings, to be frank. It's not that all women would falsely accuse a guy. It's that all women could. That's the crux of it. But I think that my position is the reasonable medium. And yes, I would tell anyone I met in private, especially as that might discourage any crazy notions.

And I'm less paranoid, more a cynic and a pessimist.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:29 am

Incelastan wrote:
Eahland wrote:He stands when a woman who isn't his wife enters the room.

So he can rush out in terror.


Funny how a lot of guys are emulating Mike Pence in this these days, mostly as a way to avoid false accusations. Though my approach would be to simply record everything, so that I would just have the weight of evidence on my side. And maybe leave the door ajar rather than fully closed. Perhaps even have a third party as a witness.

No one is emulating Pence, though.
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Postby Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
Funny how a lot of guys are emulating Mike Pence in this these days, mostly as a way to avoid false accusations. Though my approach would be to simply record everything, so that I would just have the weight of evidence on my side. And maybe leave the door ajar rather than fully closed. Perhaps even have a third party as a witness.

No one is emulating Pence, though.


It's actually a trend that has been noted in workplace one-on-one meetings. The so-called "Pence Rule."
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:31 am

Incelastan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No one is emulating Pence, though.


It's actually a trend that has been noted in workplace one-on-one meetings. The so-called "Pence Rule."

It's actually just something that misogynists talk about online.
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Postby Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
It's actually a trend that has been noted in workplace one-on-one meetings. The so-called "Pence Rule."

It's actually just something that misogynists talk about online.


There have been complaints about it in periodicals and even TV programs. And it's not really misogynistic. More a move toward self-preservation. People are a lot less naïve these days.
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