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Will Kevin McCarthy Remain Speaker?

Yes
25
29%
Yes, But He'll Have Democratic Support
12
14%
No
29
33%
IDK/Other
21
24%
 
Total votes : 87

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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.wfae.org/crime-justice/2023-03-26/north-carolina-auditor-pleads-guilty-to-hit-and-run

North Carolina auditor Beth Wood pleads guilty to hit-and-run


Glad they got caught. Too many reckless drivers on the roads these days.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:36 pm

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A lot of those people were workers before becoming rich. Are you going to damn somebody because they got to the point in life where they started delegating tasks to other people and profited from it? Some people are born into wealth but give substantially if not a majority of their money to charities and helping others. Are you going to blast people for how they were born?

BE specific.

I have a bone to pick with non-rich assholes in the rail industry which caused ecological disaster in ohio. I have a bone to pick with bobby kotick for multiple reasons. I have a bone to pick with assholes who engage in tax evasion. etc.


So when was Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos a worker?


After Bezos graduated from college in 1986, he was offered jobs at Intel, Bell Labs, and Andersen Consulting, among others.[39] He first worked at Fitel, a fintech telecommunications start-up, where he was tasked with building a network for international trade.[40] Bezos was promoted to head of development and director of customer service thereafter. He transitioned into the banking industry when he became a product manager at Bankers Trust from 1988 to 1990. He then joined D. E. Shaw & Co, a newly created hedge fund with a strong emphasis on mathematical modelling in 1990 until 1994. Bezos became D. E. Shaw's fourth senior vice-president by age 30.


Wasn't terribly hard to bring up wiki.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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So when was Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos a worker?


After Bezos graduated from college in 1986, he was offered jobs at Intel, Bell Labs, and Andersen Consulting, among others.[39] He first worked at Fitel, a fintech telecommunications start-up, where he was tasked with building a network for international trade.[40] Bezos was promoted to head of development and director of customer service thereafter. He transitioned into the banking industry when he became a product manager at Bankers Trust from 1988 to 1990. He then joined D. E. Shaw & Co, a newly created hedge fund with a strong emphasis on mathematical modelling in 1990 until 1994. Bezos became D. E. Shaw's fourth senior vice-president by age 30.


Wasn't terribly hard to bring up wiki.


So he walked straight from college to the managerial class.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:42 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Ifreann wrote:pls no bulli rich people :(


How does it feel going to bat for tankies when they are supporting totalitarian governments that will put masses of innocent people in concentration camps and abduct thousands of children in acts of modern genocide?

How does it feel to snort a fat line of detergent and hallucinate posts that don't exist?

I'd take that bet and bet against you he isn't. But he probably would get annoyed like he has been when I continue distributing pictures of him with devil horns drawn on his head!

Ow wow, you really got him. Epic!
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:47 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:


Wasn't terribly hard to bring up wiki.


So he walked straight from college to the managerial class.


Nope, he was a programmer for Fitel, getting the promotion to head of development for being the only person capable of fixing their spaghetti code.

I get the point you're going after, but Bezos isn't really the best person for it. Someone like Trump is a much better example of someone who never actually worked or had to build their own wealth.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:55 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I get the point you're going after, but Bezos isn't really the best person for it. Someone like Trump is a much better example of someone who never actually worked or had to build their own wealth.


^
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:58 pm

Ifreann wrote:How does it feel to snort a fat line of detergent and hallucinate posts that don't exist?


Wouldn't know, haven't done it. Nice roundabout though. Should use that line on twitter against kremlintarians.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:14 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How does it feel to snort a fat line of detergent and hallucinate posts that don't exist?


Wouldn't know, haven't done it and not idiotic enough to think that. Nice roundabout way of telling me to go kill myself though. I should remember that line the next time i'm feeling pissed and attacking kremlin simps regurgitating propaganda

Hahaha, fucking what? Dude, your mind goes to the strangest places.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:16 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How does it feel to snort a fat line of detergent and hallucinate posts that don't exist?


Wouldn't know, haven't done it and not idiotic enough to think that. Nice roundabout way of telling me to go kill myself though. I should remember that line the next time i'm feeling pissed and attacking kremlin simps regurgitating propaganda

uhhhh remind me what kremlin simp propaganda is going on here again? or are you just going off because you think marxism=stalinism=ussr=russia=putin

because

uh

hoo boy if so
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Postby Pangurstan » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:19 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How does it feel to snort a fat line of detergent and hallucinate posts that don't exist?


Wouldn't know, haven't done it and not idiotic enough to think that. Nice roundabout way of telling me to go kill myself though. I should remember that line the next time i'm feeling pissed and attacking kremlin simps regurgitating propaganda

Your posting history is a cautionary tale of what happens when you lose all of your critical thinking abilities because your brain has been taken over by internet-driven political tribalism and vapid slogans. Please come up with better insults.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:27 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
Wouldn't know, haven't done it and not idiotic enough to think that. Nice roundabout way of telling me to go kill myself though. I should remember that line the next time i'm feeling pissed and attacking kremlin simps regurgitating propaganda

uhhhh remind me what kremlin simp propaganda is going on here again? or are you just going off because you think marxism=stalinism=ussr=russia=putin

because

uh

hoo boy if so


About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:28 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Come on, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?

Yes.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:30 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
Come on, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?

Yes.


I can't really help you then.

I CAN clarify the gabbard 2024 one as a red flag because she's been a speaker at a DC rally in February where they flew the hammer and sickle and russian flag.

Oh boy I felt good attacking the livestream of that and turning that into a dumpster fire.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:32 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Yes.


I can't really help you then.

I never thought you could.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:33 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:uhhhh remind me what kremlin simp propaganda is going on here again? or are you just going off because you think marxism=stalinism=ussr=russia=putin

because

uh

hoo boy if so


About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?


No war but class war is brilliant and good communist propaganda, it's got nothing to do with Russia. Russia is not communist, and every communist should oppose the Russian capitalist state.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:36 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?


No war but class war is brilliant and good communist propaganda, it's got nothing to do with Russia. Russia is not communist, and every communist should oppose the Russian capitalist state.


I CAN clarify the gabbard 2024 one as a red flag because she's been a speaker at a DC rally in February where they flew the hammer and sickle and russian flag.

Oh boy I felt good attacking the livestream of that and turning that into a dumpster fire.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:38 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:
No war but class war is brilliant and good communist propaganda, it's got nothing to do with Russia. Russia is not communist, and every communist should oppose the Russian capitalist state.


I CAN clarify the gabbard 2024 one as a red flag because she's been a speaker at a DC rally in February where they flew the hammer and sickle and russian flag.

Oh boy I felt good attacking the livestream of that and turning that into a dumpster fire.

This has zero to do with what I commented. Impressive.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:44 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:

This has zero to do with what I commented. Impressive.


You were replying to my post about the signatures of users here that were espousing views and how I said these were warning signs. I couldn't provide URL links but it's common sense class war is a communist concept. I said I could provide a link to another one though. So it does have something to do with what you commented.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:44 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Yes.


I can't really help you then.

I CAN clarify the gabbard 2024 one as a red flag because she's been a speaker at a DC rally in February where they flew the hammer and sickle and russian flag.

Oh boy I felt good attacking the livestream of that and turning that into a dumpster fire.


Wow and she even wore a red coat.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:46 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
I can't really help you then.

I CAN clarify the gabbard 2024 one as a red flag because she's been a speaker at a DC rally in February where they flew the hammer and sickle and russian flag.

Oh boy I felt good attacking the livestream of that and turning that into a dumpster fire.


Wow and she even wore a red coat.


What does the coat have to do with it?
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Postby Kvatchdom » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:47 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:This has zero to do with what I commented. Impressive.


You were replying to my post about the signatures of users here that were espousing views and how I said these were warning signs. I couldn't provide URL links but it's common sense class war is a communist concept. I said I could provide a link to another one though. So it does have something to do with what you commented.

And communists should oppose Russia in everything they do, so how is that a warning sign for supporting Russia? This seems like nonsense. The words refer to revolutionary defeatism, a concept that the Bolsheviks used to oppose Russia's war internally during the first world war. Logically, it extends to the same meaning in context to this war.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:55 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
You were replying to my post about the signatures of users here that were espousing views and how I said these were warning signs. I couldn't provide URL links but it's common sense class war is a communist concept. I said I could provide a link to another one though. So it does have something to do with what you commented.

And communists should oppose Russia in everything they do, so how is that a warning sign for supporting Russia? This seems like nonsense. The words refer to revolutionary defeatism, a concept that the Bolsheviks used to oppose Russia's war internally during the first world war. Logically, it extends to the same meaning in context to this war.


Except on the 18th of this month the DSA and communist parties of the US, alongside fucking code pink, which still confuses the fuck out of me, ALSO held a rally where they espoused kremlin talking points like Ukrainians are all nazis and Russia was justified against nato expansion. They too held a big russian tricolor in the middle of their parading.

On top of that, myself and fellas of nafo have had to bear the stupidity of countless tankies simping for russia, and i've lost count of the number of times they accused us all of working for the CIA.

IF you're one of the socialists opposing russia and not simultaneouslycontradicting yourself by shouting "west bad too", thank you. But you're in the minority of the movement atm. So if I see people espousing socialist bs and with signatures like that, imma mock and ridicule their shit.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:56 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:uhhhh remind me what kremlin simp propaganda is going on here again? or are you just going off because you think marxism=stalinism=ussr=russia=putin

because

uh

hoo boy if so


About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?

considering that marxism does not, in fact, equal support for putin (and anyone who puts in a nanosecond of critical thinking would tell you that) yes actually.
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Postby Archinstinct » Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:58 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:
About page 53 is where I entered and started reading. But there's no posts like that, it's just the people espousing political opinions socialist in nature. The only evidence you need to mock and ridicule the.. three or four people espousing negativity of the "ruling class" or "wealthy" though is in their signature.

'no war but class war'? 'autistic american marxist'? 'Williamson/Gabbard 2024' !?

Seriously, do you need more obvious red flags these people are supportive of lies the kremlin has put out online?

considering that marxism does not, in fact, equal support for putin (and anyone who puts in a nanosecond of critical thinking would tell you that) yes actually.


Logically you'd be right. But go through hours upon hours of reading garbage posts of tankies and kremlintarians on reddit and twitter and you'll think like I do.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:02 pm

Archinstinct wrote:
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Wow and she even wore a red coat.


What does the coat have to do with it?

You've been grabbing shit out of thin air, what does anything have to do with anything? I mean, I get your bit now, but that wasn't a very self aware question.
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