Civilian uses of body cameras?

[Floofybit]

If people can't count on their workplace to protect them to any extent in allegation disputes, does it not make more sense for people to not sign any contracts or agree to any unfavorable terms ahead of time? This will only be effective unfortunately, if enough men across the board boycott any one company that has any track record of throwing them under the bus once enough certain coworkers are dissatisfied with their office politics. Too many people unfortunately, will take the money.

The only alternative I can think of now, is to maybe hire an unbiased coworker to sit in on any meetings alone I have with any scenarios that concern me and try to make it so I won't attend unless my sidekick is present as well.

No one's going to go on strike to get their bosses to spy on them more.

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No, it would inevitably make the world a better place

For once it is actually relevant for you to go read 1984.

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The fact that we have to even discuss this is a sad reflection on the State of the world post me too.

The fact that a fascist has been convinced by other fascists that women are all evil and out to get him doesn't actually reflect on anything except that fascist and, by virtue of this post, you.

It'll take a lot more than cameras to turn into a dystopia

[Neanderthaland]

No one's going to go on strike to get their bosses to spy on them more.

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For once it is actually relevant for you to go read 1984.

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The fact that a fascist has been convinced by other fascists that women are all evil and out to get him doesn't actually reflect on anything except that fascist and, by virtue of this post, you.

It'll take a lot more than cameras to turn into a dystopia

Yes. It would also take >insert any recent action of the Republican party<

[Cachard Calia]

A body camera is a choice of a person, not government invasion of privacy.

[Floofybit]

It'll take a lot more than cameras to turn into a dystopia

Yes. It would also take >insert any recent action of the Republican party<

Funny how perspective can change things because I tend to see many laws of passed by leftists as dystopian. Also, it either side is about to pass that, "ALL MUST LOVE UNCLE SAM" law, I think you'd know thing are going to crap much earlier than that

[Portzania]

By using it for its unintended functions.

Such as...

Things.

[The Aituia]

Semi-non-topic [SNP I would call it]:
I got a question I have to ask, what will be the body camera's footage quality?
Because CCTV cameras stereotypically tends to have a bad quality in video footage, making it bad to find suspects.

Will it hold any data of when it was created and/or edited?
Safety is not the only other thing here, the other thing is also by proving that it wasn't just some fake rumor someone filmed and edited to make it look seem real.

[Floofybit]

Such as...

Things.

Very specific

[Ifreann]

No one's going to go on strike to get their bosses to spy on them more.

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For once it is actually relevant for you to go read 1984.

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The fact that a fascist has been convinced by other fascists that women are all evil and out to get him doesn't actually reflect on anything except that fascist and, by virtue of this post, you.

It'll take a lot more than cameras to turn into a dystopia

Being under constant surveillance is dystopic.

[Floofybit]

It'll take a lot more than cameras to turn into a dystopia

Being under constant surveillance is dystopic.

Not really. It tends to just keep people safe

[Floofybit]

Semi-non-topic [SNP I would call it]:
I got a question I have to ask, what will be the body camera's footage quality?
Because CCTV cameras stereotypically tends to have a bad quality in video footage, making it bad to find suspects.

Will it hold any data of when it was created and/or edited?
Safety is not the only other thing here, the other thing is also by proving that it wasn't just some fake rumor someone filmed and edited to make it look seem real.

It should be high quality with timestamps and record of when the video was edited. It will be expensive, but it's a small expense for safety

[Ifreann]

Being under constant surveillance is dystopic.

Not really. It tends to just keep people safe

No it doesn't. You aren't safe when some person or persons unknown are watching you.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Being under constant surveillance is dystopic.

Not really. It tends to just keep people safe

At the cost of literally all of your privacy. Also, it doesn't keep you safe from whoever's watching you.

[Floofybit]

Not really. It tends to just keep people safe

No it doesn't. You aren't safe when some person or persons unknown are watching you.

Then never leave your house. Close the blinds, lock the doors, and hide.

[Floofybit]

Not really. It tends to just keep people safe

At the cost of literally all of your privacy. Also, it doesn't keep you safe from whoever's watching you.

Privacy doesn't necessarily matter. Also, why would someone watching you particularly target you? There's not enough people in the government to watch everyone effectively simultaneously

[Ifreann]

No it doesn't. You aren't safe when some person or persons unknown are watching you.

Then never leave your house. Close the blinds, lock the doors, and hide.

See the world you are advocating for? People who want to be able to go about their business without their movements and actions being tracked by the state simply cannot leave their homes.

[Portzania]

No it doesn't. You aren't safe when some person or persons unknown are watching you.

Then never leave your house. Close the blinds, lock the doors, and hide.

Not even the Soviet Union or East Germany had this much surveillance, maybe you're going too far?

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

At the cost of literally all of your privacy. Also, it doesn't keep you safe from whoever's watching you.

Privacy doesn't necessarily matter. Also, why would someone watching you particularly target you? There's not enough people in the government to watch everyone effectively simultaneously

Privacy does matter. How are we as a species so far devolved that we care more about "safety" than our actual right to be free and not worried about if someone is watching you? Sure, someone might not always be on the other side of the camera, but there's a chance that they are, and that they are watching you, and if they are, they most certainly can target you if you say stuff they don't like. You don't need to be safe. You can get hurt sometimes, you will survive. Having a camera won't stop someone from murdering you, nor will it protect you if you're stabbed. It helps you in rare cases at best. Meanwhile, you are giving up your own privacy, and, if the people on the other side of the lense decide, your right to free speech.
I'd much, much rather be free than safe. This is honestly horrifying to see. That you are saying "Yeah, we need a world where your constantly watched", and when someone says "I don't want to be constantly watched", your best response is "then stay inside always forever!" That's dystopian.

[Morozistan]

This sounds good on paper, but in practice it would just be highly abused by bosses or corporations and give them an excuse to fire people for just about any reason they come up with. That's already happening with corporations looking into people's social media's when hiring new employees, and cherrypicking details about the person they find "undesirable". I'm all for body cameras on officers, but allowing companies to have this power will just allow them to turn into Big Brother on their workers and cut out any and all dissent. And that's not even counting the implications this could have towards stalking.....

[Floofybit]

Privacy doesn't necessarily matter. Also, why would someone watching you particularly target you? There's not enough people in the government to watch everyone effectively simultaneously

Privacy does matter. How are we as a species so far devolved that we care more about "safety" than our actual right to be free and not worried about if someone is watching you? Sure, someone might not always be on the other side of the camera, but there's a chance that they are, and that they are watching you, and if they are, they most certainly can target you if you say stuff they don't like. You don't need to be safe. You can get hurt sometimes, you will survive. Having a camera won't stop someone from murdering you, nor will it protect you if you're stabbed. It helps you in rare cases at best. Meanwhile, you are giving up your own privacy, and, if the people on the other side of the lense decide, your right to free speech.
I'd much, much rather be free than safe. This is honestly horrifying to see. That you are saying "Yeah, we need a world where your constantly watched", and when someone says "I don't want to be constantly watched", your best response is "then stay inside always forever!" That's dystopian.

While cameras can't save you, they can ensure justice is served. They can see who murdered you. They can see who was liable in the car crash. They can see who hit first. They can see so much, and with lots of cameras, they're can be a lot of cooperating evidence showing what actually happened

[American Legionaries]

Privacy does matter. How are we as a species so far devolved that we care more about "safety" than our actual right to be free and not worried about if someone is watching you? Sure, someone might not always be on the other side of the camera, but there's a chance that they are, and that they are watching you, and if they are, they most certainly can target you if you say stuff they don't like. You don't need to be safe. You can get hurt sometimes, you will survive. Having a camera won't stop someone from murdering you, nor will it protect you if you're stabbed. It helps you in rare cases at best. Meanwhile, you are giving up your own privacy, and, if the people on the other side of the lense decide, your right to free speech.
I'd much, much rather be free than safe. This is honestly horrifying to see. That you are saying "Yeah, we need a world where your constantly watched", and when someone says "I don't want to be constantly watched", your best response is "then stay inside always forever!" That's dystopian.

While cameras can't save you, they can ensure justice is served. They can see who murdered you. They can see who was liable in the car crash. They can see who hit first. They can see so much, and with lots of cameras, they're can be a lot of cooperating evidence showing what actually happened

Information is only as good as the people who have it. A camera does not ensure justice, it simply provides information. The camera cannot go out and catch a murderer, or repair my car, or defend me in a fight.

[Neanderthaland]

Yes. It would also take >insert any recent action of the Republican party<

Funny how perspective can change things because I tend to see many laws of passed by leftists as dystopian. Also, it either side is about to pass that, "ALL MUST LOVE UNCLE SAM" law, I think you'd know thing are going to crap much earlier than that

You are wrong. Simple as.

[Floofybit]

Funny how perspective can change things because I tend to see many laws of passed by leftists as dystopian. Also, it either side is about to pass that, "ALL MUST LOVE UNCLE SAM" law, I think you'd know thing are going to crap much earlier than that

You are wrong. Simple as.

Which part am I wrong about

[Floofybit]

While cameras can't save you, they can ensure justice is served. They can see who murdered you. They can see who was liable in the car crash. They can see who hit first. They can see so much, and with lots of cameras, they're can be a lot of cooperating evidence showing what actually happened

Information is only as good as the people who have it. A camera does not ensure justice, it simply provides information. The camera cannot go out and catch a murderer, or repair my car, or defend me in a fight.

Some info is better than none

[The Black Forrest]

Information is only as good as the people who have it. A camera does not ensure justice, it simply provides information. The camera cannot go out and catch a murderer, or repair my car, or defend me in a fight.

Some info is better than none

Not always. If you have to interpret, then mistakes tend to follow.

[The Aituia]

Semi-non-topic [SNP I would call it]:
I got a question I have to ask, what will be the body camera's footage quality?
Because CCTV cameras stereotypically tends to have a bad quality in video footage, making it bad to find suspects.

Will it hold any data of when it was created and/or edited?
Safety is not the only other thing here, the other thing is also by proving that it wasn't just some fake rumor someone filmed and edited to make it look seem real.

It should be high quality with timestamps and record of when the video was edited. It will be expensive, but it's a small expense for safety

Absolute full support.