Should the US Capital be Relocated

[San Lumen]

There isn't a reason for a capital like exists currently in the modern era. The concept was dreamed up in a period where it took weeks or months to correspond. We could very easily create a dedicated government internet system, place all the representatives in their states/districts in existing buildings, with ample physical back-ups and triplicate verifications of all votes.

DC would then become JUST a military, supreme court, and executive branch mansion surrounded by national archives and such. It should be stripped down to just those buildings and all of the citizens/residential zones of the district absorbed into adjacent states. The senate and congressional buildings and offices would be shuttered, all of the support facilities for them would be shuttered, and it would all be reduced.

In the process, it would also make it easier to increase the number of states and districts for better representation because there would be no argument about fitting more demons in the buildings.

Why do we need to close down all the government offices? Having an entirely virtual government doesn't make it very transparent. Its hard to connect with your representatives if its all online.

What about their staff are they supposed to do all their work entirely remote and hardly if ever see the person they work for?

How does this make for better representation?

[Ifreann]

There isn't a reason for a capital like exists currently in the modern era. The concept was dreamed up in a period where it took weeks or months to correspond. We could very easily create a dedicated government internet system, place all the representatives in their states/districts in existing buildings, with ample physical back-ups and triplicate verifications of all votes.

DC would then become JUST a military, supreme court, and executive branch mansion surrounded by national archives and such. It should be stripped down to just those buildings and all of the citizens/residential zones of the district absorbed into adjacent states. The senate and congressional buildings and offices would be shuttered, all of the support facilities for them would be shuttered, and it would all be reduced.

In the process, it would also make it easier to increase the number of states and districts for better representation because there would be no argument about fitting more demons in the buildings.

Why do we need to close down all the government offices? Having an entirely virtual government doesn't make it very transparent. Its hard to connect with your representatives if its all online.

What about their staff are they supposed to do all their work entirely remote and hardly if ever see the person they work for?

How does this make for better representation?

Is government transparent when it's all behind locked doors in Washington?

[San Lumen]

Why do we need to close down all the government offices? Having an entirely virtual government doesn't make it very transparent. Its hard to connect with your representatives if its all online.

What about their staff are they supposed to do all their work entirely remote and hardly if ever see the person they work for?

How does this make for better representation?

Is government transparent when it's all behind locked doors in Washington?

Its not. You can visit your Representative or Senator's office. You can sit in on committee meetings and view sessions of the House and Senate from the viewing gallery.

[Ifreann]

Is government transparent when it's all behind locked doors in Washington?

Its not. You can visit your Representative or Senator's office. You can sit in on committee meetings and view sessions of the House and Senate from the viewing gallery.

But you can't sit in on meetings in the Oval Office. You can't watch meetings between your representatives and oil lobbyists. And what parts of the government are public, realistically the vast majority of people can't go and sit in the gallery. You think people in Hawaii can just casually swing by DC to check out a committee meeting?

[San Lumen]

Its not. You can visit your Representative or Senator's office. You can sit in on committee meetings and view sessions of the House and Senate from the viewing gallery.

But you can't sit in on meetings in the Oval Office. You can't watch meetings between your representatives and oil lobbyists. And what parts of the government are public, realistically the vast majority of people can't go and sit in the gallery. You think people in Hawaii can just casually swing by DC to check out a committee meeting?

Oval Office meetings can sometimes contain classified info. Its unlikely in any country are there cameras or the public can sit in on meetings in the President or Prime Minister's meetings.

CSPAN exists. They air committee meetings as well as sessions of the House and Senate.

[Ifreann]

But you can't sit in on meetings in the Oval Office. You can't watch meetings between your representatives and oil lobbyists. And what parts of the government are public, realistically the vast majority of people can't go and sit in the gallery. You think people in Hawaii can just casually swing by DC to check out a committee meeting?

Oval Office meetings can sometimes contain classified info. Its unlikely in any country are there cameras or the public can sit in on meetings in the President or Prime Minister's meetings.

CSPAN exists. They air committee meetings as well as sessions of the House and Senate.

So what you're saying is that for most people, the government already is virtual.

[Floofybit]

Destroy the city and allocate the resources back to the trees and rocks they came from

[San Lumen]

Oval Office meetings can sometimes contain classified info. Its unlikely in any country are there cameras or the public can sit in on meetings in the President or Prime Minister's meetings.

CSPAN exists. They air committee meetings as well as sessions of the House and Senate.

So what you're saying is that for most people, the government already is virtual.

Yes but the proposal was to close the Capitol building and offices and have all government business conducted online or in remotely.

[Ifreann]

So what you're saying is that for most people, the government already is virtual.

Yes but the proposal was to close the Capitol building and offices and have all government business conducted online or in remotely.

For most people that would make no difference to how transparent the government is.

[Necroghastia]

Yes but the proposal was to close the Capitol building and offices and have all government business conducted online or in remotely.

For most people that would make no difference to how transparent the government is.

Given that Lumen's argument was "you can visit your representative or senator's office," by his own logic if the Capitol building was closed and things were discussed remotely that would actually increase transparency, since it would be far easier to visit someone in-state than all the way across the country.

[Land of The Furries]

Destroy the city and allocate the resources back to the trees and rocks they came from

Lol so basically let nature do it's thing huh?

[Floofybit]

Destroy the city and allocate the resources back to the trees and rocks they came from

Lol so basically let nature do it's thing huh?

Yes. Reject humanity, resort to woof

[Land of The Furries]

Lol so basically let nature do it's thing huh?

Yes. Reject humanity, resort to woof

Can't complain about those who prefer nature. You remind me of the Berserkers off of Elix on the relocation of the capital going back to nature. Although not everyone would see it your way.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Uh, Washington D.C. isn't blue because it's in a blue area. It's blue because its a city. So no matter where a new capital city is, it'll still be blue. So, no. This isn't the 1800's, we can all get to DC very fast, relatively.

Since the Capital has a higher population then Wyoming and Vermont and the citizens their dont really have a say in the government AND due to how easy a naval invasion would be *Cough Cough* The burning of Washington *Cough Cough* the Capital i feel would be better anywhere else. the only issue is that if the new capital grows to a high enough population then the issue kinda restarts right?

America has one of the strongest navies in the world. Any country trying to navally invade the capital would get torn to shreds. Plus, anyone who could possibly wanna invade us would have to do it from the other side, on the west coast. America's navy has, obviously, improved since the War of 1812, quite drastically.

[Land of The Furries]

Uh, Washington D.C. isn't blue because it's in a blue area. It's blue because its a city. So no matter where a new capital city is, it'll still be blue. So, no. This isn't the 1800's, we can all get to DC very fast, relatively.

Since the Capital has a higher population then Wyoming and Vermont and the citizens their dont really have a say in the government AND due to how easy a naval invasion would be *Cough Cough* The burning of Washington *Cough Cough* the Capital i feel would be better anywhere else. the only issue is that if the new capital grows to a high enough population then the issue kinda restarts right?

America has one of the strongest navies in the world. Any country trying to navally invade the capital would get torn to shreds. Plus, anyone who could possibly wanna invade us would have to do it from the other side, on the west coast. America's navy has, obviously, improved since the War of 1812, quite drastically.

The discussion ain't over whether it's red or blue. It's over whether we should move the capital somewhere else or just leave it where it's at and like the OP there's no laws stating that the location has to be in DC.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Uh, Washington D.C. isn't blue because it's in a blue area. It's blue because its a city. So no matter where a new capital city is, it'll still be blue. So, no. This isn't the 1800's, we can all get to DC very fast, relatively.

America has one of the strongest navies in the world. Any country trying to navally invade the capital would get torn to shreds. Plus, anyone who could possibly wanna invade us would have to do it from the other side, on the west coast. America's navy has, obviously, improved since the War of 1812, quite drastically.

The discussion ain't over whether it's red or blue. It's over whether we should move the capital somewhere else or just leave it where it's at and like the OP there's no laws stating that the location has to be in DC.

And OP said that one of the reasons that DC should be moved is because it's too blue.

[Piolip]

The US capital should be in Guantanamo Bay

Just no

[Piolip]

Why not abolish the capital altogether?

Remove it. And then re-release it for an extra cash-grab if people really want to have a capital.

We can call it:

Washington DLC

Maybe even add a Freedom Battlepass™

Shut the HELL up

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Maybe even add a Freedom Battlepass™

Shut the HELL up

The US capital should be in Guantanamo Bay

Just no

They are joking, man. Calm down.

[Land of The Furries]

The discussion ain't over whether it's red or blue. It's over whether we should move the capital somewhere else or just leave it where it's at and like the OP there's no laws stating that the location has to be in DC.

And OP said that one of the reasons that DC should be moved is because it's too blue.

Too blue too red what's the difference they both have bad apples in both carts. So what DC is blue so in turn what do you suggest would be a better location for our nations capital?

[Piolip]

Yes- New York
The obvious reason,due to the fact that is is one of the most important cities, for a lot of reasons.

But Washington DLC- just amazing

No

[Floofybit]

Move it to Utah, but make sure it stays red. Or else...

[Land of The Furries]

Move it to Utah, but make sure it stays red. Or else...

Ok? Where would be the safest place in Utah though?

[Perikuresu]

Move it to Utah, but make sure it stays red. Or else...

I heard Kansas has redness eternally etched in it's history, maybe move it there instead!

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

And OP said that one of the reasons that DC should be moved is because it's too blue.

Too blue too red what's the difference they both have bad apples in both carts. So what DC is blue so in turn what do you suggest would be a better location for our nations capital?

What? The OP said that a good reason to move it is that DC is too blue. I don't care if DC is blue. Even if we move it, it'll still be blue. I'm disagreeing with the notion that the capital's political orientation matters, or is even changeable. I want it to stay in DC.