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Should the US Capital be Relocated?

No, we should leave it where it is
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Yes, we should move it to another preexisting city
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Yes, but we should build an entirely new city
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Yes, let's fly it to the moon
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Meh, I don't give a flipping trout
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Postby New Audalusia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:28 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
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No. It holds FAR too much political value, and is much more likely to go from a nice political discussion to something that will see both sides bitching and crying over the location. Also, China exists. Moving the capital will tie up resources, especially right where we need them. So, no. We should not move it, just like 90% of the thread is shoving down your left nostril.

Using that color was a worse idea than moving the capital.


Would you rather me use this then? Also, the color isn't used to emphasize anything and if you don't like it... I do apologize. And come on, the color isn't that abhorrent.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:32 pm

New Audalusia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Using that color was a worse idea than moving the capital.


Would you rather me use this then? Also, the color isn't used to emphasize anything and if you don't like it... I do apologize. And come on, the color isn't that abhorrent.

Use ff9966

Or just stop using garrish font
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Postby Kampfler » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:34 pm

I don't really have much of an opinion on the Capital, but I've never had any problems with it being on the Eastern coast.


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Postby The Grand Fifth Imperium » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:37 pm

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Postby New Zoigai » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:37 pm

No, Washington DC is one of the only things that make this nation great



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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:39 pm

New Zoigai wrote:No, Washington DC is one of the only things that make this nation great

Brings it down imho
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Postby Point Blob » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:39 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:It's what it says on the label: should the US capital be moved out of Washington?

Sure. Rip it out of the ground and throw it into the sea... Probably easier than launching it into the sun at least.


New Zoigai wrote:No, Washington DC is one of the only things that make this nation great.

Went there once. Wasn't what I'd call great. There were no Super Mutants and I couldn't find any bottle-caps no matter how many bins I rummaged through. Fallout 3 lied to me. Bethesda lied to me.
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Postby New Zoigai » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:40 pm

Floofybit wrote:
New Zoigai wrote:No, Washington DC is one of the only things that make this nation great

Brings it down imho

I respectfully think your opinion is a bad idea
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Postby New Audalusia » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:46 pm

Floofybit wrote:
New Audalusia wrote:
Would you rather me use this then? Also, the color isn't used to emphasize anything and if you don't like it... I do apologize. And come on, the color isn't that abhorrent.

Use ff9966

Or just stop using garrish font

I'll just not bother with the color at all.
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Postby Land of The Furries » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:49 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:It's what it says on the label: should the US capital be moved out of Washington?

The US Constitution does not say that Washington, DC has to be the nation's capital, but rather that Congress must set aside a district, not to exceed 10 sq. mi. that will be under the jurisdiction of no state to serve as the capital. I will here give some pros and cons (from off the top of my head.

Pros:

1 A more convenient location.
Washington was decided upon to become the US capital "in the room where it happened", in order to have a more central position in the then 13 states, but over 200 years and a crossed continent later, its rather, eastern, shall we say. Its safe to say it would be more convenient for traveling Congressmen and Congresswoman and to put it in a more central position, like the Great Plains. I've even heard people advocate putting it where the four states touch, but if I'm thinking correctly that's reservation land and we've probably taken enough from the natives.
2 A more politically neutral location.
It's no secret that Washington is in a very Democratic, liberal region. It may be a good idea to move it to a purple state.
The State of Columbia.
3 If Congress moves out of the District, then there's not much preventing them from becoming a state (except Republican Congress members, but we could always do something like the Missouri Compromise again to balance things out).
4 A modern city.
We could rebuild the new capital city to be modern, using the latest technologies to create a modern city, and I just got writer's block on this one. Green! We could make a model eco friendly city! Ok, now the writer's block is back.

Cons:

1 Having to move everything.
This one's obvious. All the paperwork. All the archives and records and whatnot. Everything has to be moved.
2 Having to build everything.
Imagine how much it would cost to build an entirely new city from scratch. After all, we'd need a replacement for the Pentagon, Supreme Court, Executive Mansion, Library of Congress, National Archives, to name a few. And that's not even touching on all the new monuments, airports, railway systems, roadways, pipelines, powerstations, and other infrastructure necessary for such a city.
3 Our national history
Obviously our present capital is very historical. (Writer's block is hitting me again.) What with all the monuments, it being burned in the War of 1812, the Smithsonian, Ford Theater, etc., its chock full of our nation's history and culture.

Anyways, whatdyou think about moving the capital? On the one hand, I think its a politically smart idea. On the other hand, we're too much in debt to afford this.

PS: Sorry if the writings a bit crude, i suffer from chronic writersblockosis.

Oddly enough I distinctly remember this being discussed somewhere else not on NS. Hell with this in mind our own nation's capital can be located in either of our territories if we so chose it to be. Like Guam or West Point or Puerto Rico or any of the US Virgin Islands. It could even be in the Ozarks if we wanted to. Or go traditional and say that our capital could be located in Pennsylvania where it all began if need be. I honestly don't care where it is as long as the Pentagon and White House are easy to find.

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Postby The Rickpublic » Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:32 pm

Since the Capital has a higher population then Wyoming and Vermont and the citizens their dont really have a say in the government AND due to how easy a naval invasion would be *Cough Cough* The burning of Washington *Cough Cough* the Capital i feel would be better anywhere else. the only issue is that if the new capital grows to a high enough population then the issue kinda restarts right? :geek:

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:33 pm

The Rickpublic wrote:Since the Capital has a higher population then Wyoming and Vermont and the citizens their dont really have a say in the government AND due to how easy a naval invasion would be *Cough Cough* The burning of Washington *Cough Cough* the Capital i feel would be better anywhere else. the only issue is that if the new capital grows to a high enough population then the issue kinda restarts right? :geek:


where should it be? whose going to do a naval invasion of DC?

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Postby The Grand Fifth Imperium » Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Rickpublic wrote:Since the Capital has a higher population then Wyoming and Vermont and the citizens their dont really have a say in the government AND due to how easy a naval invasion would be *Cough Cough* The burning of Washington *Cough Cough* the Capital i feel would be better anywhere else. the only issue is that if the new capital grows to a high enough population then the issue kinda restarts right? :geek:


where should it be? whose going to do a naval invasion of DC?


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Postby Land of The Furries » Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:38 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
where should it be? whose going to do a naval invasion of DC?


"The regulars are out! To arms, to arms! The British are coming."
Oh wait... wrong war...

I was gonna say buddy when in time are you from? Lol

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Postby -Astoria- » Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:14 am

Point Blob wrote:Went there once. Wasn't what I'd call great. There were no Super Mutants and I couldn't find any bottle-caps no matter how many bins I rummaged through. Fallout 3 lied to me. Bethesda lied to me.

Should've gone to the one just up north.


On another note, why not have two capitals (official & administrative)?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:04 pm

-Astoria- wrote:
Point Blob wrote:Went there once. Wasn't what I'd call great. There were no Super Mutants and I couldn't find any bottle-caps no matter how many bins I rummaged through. Fallout 3 lied to me. Bethesda lied to me.

Should've gone to the one just up north.


On another note, why not have two capitals (official & administrative)?


What cities do you propose?

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Postby The Grand Fifth Imperium » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:07 pm

We build an administrative city under a mountain (nuke resistant) and an official one in the middle of Kansas. How does that sound?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:27 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:We build an administrative city under a mountain (nuke resistant) and an official one in the middle of Kansas. How does that sound?

Build a mountain over a city in Kansas.
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Postby Land of The Furries » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:26 pm

The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:We build an administrative city under a mountain (nuke resistant) and an official one in the middle of Kansas. How does that sound?

Look whether that happens or not in this case you'd be better off saying that it should be located in NORAD or something or in some D.U.M.B. somewhere.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:35 pm

Yes. Washington DC sucks.
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The Grand Fifth Imperium wrote:We build an administrative city under a mountain (nuke resistant) and an official one in the middle of Kansas. How does that sound?


I do not want our politicians to live in an impentrable fortress. They should conduct business in a shared workspace where everyone can see them.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:36 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Yes. Washington DC sucks.


What should the capital be?

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Postby Perikuresu » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:16 am

San Lumen wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:Yes. Washington DC sucks.


What should the capital be?

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Postby Intergalactic Colonization Project » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:19 am

Yes probably Washington State is already there
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Postby Cachard Calia » Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:10 am

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Cachard Calia wrote:Did you ever have a pet get "sent off to the farm" as a kid?


Nope. I was always told it was "put to sleep", which I always thought to mean "was given a poisonous shot so it died peacefully". Maybe I had a grimmer childhood than you.

I had the same happen. The farm is the dreamland they go to in their sleep.
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