Gun Control 2023 (V) - ATF Shenanigans, States Fight Back!

[Paddy O Fernature]

Didn't you get the memo?

In this revolt, Lumen and others like them will just walk up, take our guns, and smash them right in front of our eyes and we will be powerless to stop them or resist in any meaningful way. This was laid out plain and simple by Lumen earlier in the thread. Clearly, we should be cowering in fear should Lumen ever start this little revolution of his, as he has told countless others to do in the past on this forum.

I'm so frightened I can barely load all these extended magazines, the fear is making my thumb ache. I think I need to get a magloader or spend less time at the range because the fear might be giving me arthritis.

I hear group therapy has made great advancements in that field in recent years.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Welp it looks like dipshit chris murphy (d-conn) is suffering from a bit of the sand in vagina.
Chris Murphy Predicts a ‘Popular Revolt’ if the Supreme Court Nixes Gun Control Laws

There could be a “popular revolt,” if the Supreme Court blocks some kinds of gun control legislation, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) said Sunday.

“If the Supreme Court eventually says that states or the Congress can’t pass universal background checks or can’t take these assault weapons off the streets, I think there’s going to be a popular revolt over that policy,” Murphy, an outspoken gun control advocate, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“A court that’s already pretty illegitimate, is going to be in full crisis mode,” Murphy added.

Murphy’s comments came after a federal judge ruled Wednesday that a federal law preventing the sale of guns to 18- to 20-year-olds was unconstitutional.

Quite telling in how he frames this as the supreme court is illegitimate if things don't go their way and saying the supreme court is policy making.
Perhaps he's just fucking stupid and doesn't realize the USSC rules on the constitutionality of policy the dipshits in congress passed, striking or upholding a law isn't policy making.
As to his prediction of a "popular revolt" sounds like he is fomenting an insurrection.
TBH, chris likes to be wrong and there won't be any "popular revolt" just lots of whining and feet stomping by people like him who seem to think that congress is the final arbitrator of what is a right and what isn't.
All in all, fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Liberals are not able to revolt.

Even if the far-right was to launch a coup tomorrow, the best they could do is shout "Get out and vote!!!"

[Techocracy101010]

Welp it looks like dipshit chris murphy (d-conn) is suffering from a bit of the sand in vagina.
Chris Murphy Predicts a ‘Popular Revolt’ if the Supreme Court Nixes Gun Control Laws


Quite telling in how he frames this as the supreme court is illegitimate if things don't go their way and saying the supreme court is policy making.
Perhaps he's just fucking stupid and doesn't realize the USSC rules on the constitutionality of policy the dipshits in congress passed, striking or upholding a law isn't policy making.
As to his prediction of a "popular revolt" sounds like he is fomenting an insurrection.
TBH, chris likes to be wrong and there won't be any "popular revolt" just lots of whining and feet stomping by people like him who seem to think that congress is the final arbitrator of what is a right and what isn't.
All in all, fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Liberals are not able to revolt.

Even if the far-right was to launch a coup tomorrow, the best they could do is shout "Get out and vote!!!"

The democrats are children who refuse to believe martial prowess has modern utility in politics. All authority is derived from mastery of violence even the free man must be practiced and skilled in violence to maintain his freedom least someone subjugate him .

[Greater Cesnica]

Sure



Thanks.

What a truly disgusting attitude to have.

Nope, it's just what it is. The Second Amendment if read honestly permits the acquisition of military hardware and armaments. It's that simple.

[Paddy O Fernature]

What a truly disgusting attitude to have.

Nope, it's just what it is. The Second Amendment if read honestly permits the acquisition of military hardware and armaments. It's that simple.

^ This.

Daily reminder that the writers at the time were perfectly OK with civilians owning warships, artillery, and everything in between.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Honestly, I think we should allocate more money into mental health programs so people who are falling off the deep end can get help.

I don't buy the "just take the guns away" answer.

\he democrats are children who refuse to believe martial prowess has modern utility in politics. All authority is derived from mastery of violence even the free man must be practiced and skilled in violence to maintain his freedom least someone subjugate him .

I think they delude themselves into thinking the modern state will always make the right decision when using force, even though it is clear that it doesn't.

Not to mention that states can change due to the people who govern them. And thus, can go from nominally democratic to totalitarian in a heart beat.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Honestly, I think we should allocate more money into mental health programs so people who are falling off the deep end can get help.

I don't buy the "just take the guns away" answer.

\he democrats are children who refuse to believe martial prowess has modern utility in politics. All authority is derived from mastery of violence even the free man must be practiced and skilled in violence to maintain his freedom least someone subjugate him .

I think they delude themselves into thinking the modern state will always make the right decision when using force, even though it is clear that it doesn't.

Not to mention that states can change due to the people who govern them. And thus, can go from nominally democratic to totalitarian in a heart beat.

Agreed.

Mental Health in the US needs a complete ground up overhaul inho. That would do more to reduce gun violence then any ban ever would.

[Kernen]

Strong social welfare programs to attack poverty and ensure every American has minimum standard of living that is comfortable and prosperous coupled with an aggressive public health campaign starting from birth to ensure children are properly nourished, have their material needs met, and have safe behavioral coping mechanisms will eradicate 90% or more of gun violence in a generation.

Calling for mental health expansion is too little too late. The people who need it won't get it or trust it, and it won't fix them. Public health interventions work best when targeted at our youngest, because that's when the seeds of these problems start. Addressing gun violence without infringing on rights will take old men planting trees they will never sit in the shade of, but specifically it will have to be for people other than their own progeny, because the disadvantaged sure don't have the resources to do this themselves.

[Haganham]

Strong social welfare programs to attack poverty and ensure every American has minimum standard of living that is comfortable and prosperous coupled with an aggressive oh lic health campaign starting from birth to ensure children are properly nourished, have their material needs met, and have safe behavioral coping mechanisms will eradicate 90% or more of gun violence in a generation.

Calling for mental health expansion is too little too late. The people who need it won't get it or trust it, and it won't fix them. Public health interventions work best when targeted at our youngest, because that's when the seeds of these problems start. Addressing gun violence without infringing on rights will take old men planting trees they will never sit in the shade of, but specifically it will have to be for people other than their own progeny, because the disadvantaged sure don't have the resources to do this themselves.

^this, and to add to it, the first step to addressing any mental health problem is to address the underlying situations leading to the problem. America is a fundamentally abusive society and that needs to be addressed.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

Strong social welfare programs to attack poverty and ensure every American has minimum standard of living that is comfortable and prosperous coupled with an aggressive oh lic health campaign starting from birth to ensure children are properly nourished, have their material needs met, and have safe behavioral coping mechanisms will eradicate 90% or more of gun violence in a generation.

Calling for mental health expansion is too little too late. The people who need it won't get it or trust it, and it won't fix them. Public health interventions work best when targeted at our youngest, because that's when the seeds of these problems start. Addressing gun violence without infringing on rights will take old men planting trees they will never sit in the shade of, but specifically it will have to be for people other than their own progeny, because the disadvantaged sure don't have the resources to do this themselves.

Yeah, I agree here.

This country needs an overhaul.

[Techocracy101010]

Strong social welfare programs to attack poverty and ensure every American has minimum standard of living that is comfortable and prosperous coupled with an aggressive oh lic health campaign starting from birth to ensure children are properly nourished, have their material needs met, and have safe behavioral coping mechanisms will eradicate 90% or more of gun violence in a generation.

Calling for mental health expansion is too little too late. The people who need it won't get it or trust it, and it won't fix them. Public health interventions work best when targeted at our youngest, because that's when the seeds of these problems start. Addressing gun violence without infringing on rights will take old men planting trees they will never sit in the shade of, but specifically it will have to be for people other than their own progeny, because the disadvantaged sure don't have the resources to do this themselves.

^this, and to add to it, the first step to addressing any mental health problem is to address the underlying situations leading to the problem. America is a fundamentally abusive society and that needs to be addressed.

yup but no no take away the guns so us rich costal people can ignore those peoples issues and not feel threatened . They would much rather have an unjust peace

[Haganham]

What's that phrase about justice and peace? I forget?

Oh yeah!

No.

[American Legionaries]

Strong social welfare programs to attack poverty and ensure every American has minimum standard of living that is comfortable and prosperous coupled with an aggressive public health campaign starting from birth to ensure children are properly nourished, have their material needs met, and have safe behavioral coping mechanisms will eradicate 90% or more of gun violence in a generation.

Calling for mental health expansion is too little too late. The people who need it won't get it or trust it, and it won't fix them. Public health interventions work best when targeted at our youngest, because that's when the seeds of these problems start. Addressing gun violence without infringing on rights will take old men planting trees they will never sit in the shade of, but specifically it will have to be for people other than their own progeny, because the disadvantaged sure don't have the resources to do this themselves.

The whole social support system in the United States is fundamentally flawed. From it's inception it's been a compromised patchwork that has had to cater to saboteurs to remain in place.

This is why the constant attempts to deliver this system more funding will never accomplish meaningful goals, it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics ... index.html

Supreme Court refuses to block assault weapons bans in Illinois

[American Legionaries]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/supreme-court-refuses-to-block-assault-weapons-bans-in-illinois/index.html

Supreme Court refuses to block assault weapons bans in Illinois

Fucking illegitimate court.

[Kernen]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/supreme-court-refuses-to-block-assault-weapons-bans-in-illinois/index.html

Supreme Court refuses to block assault weapons bans in Illinois

On narrow procedural grounds. Not substantive grounds.

Just you wait.

[Des-Bal]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/supreme-court-refuses-to-block-assault-weapons-bans-in-illinois/index.html

Supreme Court refuses to block assault weapons bans in Illinois

Fucking illegitimate court.

Why should they have blocked it?

[Arval Va]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/supreme-court-refuses-to-block-assault-weapons-bans-in-illinois/index.html

Supreme Court refuses to block assault weapons bans in Illinois

Fucking illegitimate court.

The pot calls the kettle black.

[American Legionaries]

Fucking illegitimate court.

The pot calls the kettle black.

Did I become a court when I wasn't looking, or do you just write idioms without an awareness of what they mean?

[Kernen]

The pot calls the kettle black.

Did I become a court when I wasn't looking, or do you just write idioms without an awareness of what they mean?

I've seen the burlesque shots of you in a robe and wig, we all know you're secretly nine judges.

[The Two Jerseys]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/supreme-court-refuses-to-block-assault-weapons-bans-in-illinois/index.html

Supreme Court refuses to block assault weapons bans in Illinois

Fucking illegitimate court.

This is the part where the plaintiff tells the court to pound sand and does whatever they want, right?

[Arval Va]

The pot calls the kettle black.

Did I become a court when I wasn't looking, or do you just write idioms without an awareness of what they mean?

You'd think someone studying linguistics would be able to think it through, but no. Either way, you've defended the court's gun law decisions from Lumen in the past, but only now they're illegitimate?

[American Legionaries]

Did I become a court when I wasn't looking, or do you just write idioms without an awareness of what they mean?

I've seen the burlesque shots of you in a robe and wig, we all know you're secretly nine judges.

You weren't even supposed to show your wife those, much less tell NSG they existed!!!

[American Legionaries]

Did I become a court when I wasn't looking, or do you just write idioms without an awareness of what they mean?

You'd think someone studying linguistics would be able to think it through, but no. Either way, you've defended the court's gun law decisions from Lumen in the past, but only now they're illegitimate?

Is someone studying linguistics here to think it through for me? Because it looks like nonsense to me.

You do know what facetiousness is, yes?

[Des-Bal]

You'd think someone studying linguistics would be able to think it through, but no. Either way, you've defended the court's gun law decisions from Lumen in the past, but only now they're illegitimate?

That's like defending a cop when he's doing his job but not when he shoots a child, naked hypocrisy.

I mean I attacked the post too but that argument is shit.