Gun Control 2023 (V) - ATF Shenanigans, States Fight Back!

[Greater Cesnica]

Yes. The Bruen standard permits those gun laws that conform with traditional regulation in the US, like prohibitions of felon ownership. Those are constitutional. You'd know that if you knew literally anything about the law on this topic.

And if children get shredded in school oh well its a sacrifice we must make so you can have your stupid pieces of metal and wooden targets.

Again you're repeating yourself. My actually very nice and well-put together pieces of metal and wood are necessary to defend myself and those close to me.

[San Lumen]

And if children get shredded in school oh well its a sacrifice we must make so you can have your stupid pieces of metal and wooden targets.

I think you need a new record, seems the one you are playing is scratched.

I don't care what you think. People with your attitude sicken me. You want no gun laws at all and whoever is injured or worse you don't care as long you have your stupid worthless pieces of metal. Call me a gun grabber but your viewpoints are disgusting.

[Grinning Dragon]

Yes. The Bruen standard permits those gun laws that conform with traditional regulation in the US, like prohibitions of felon ownership. Those are constitutional. You'd know that if you knew literally anything about the law on this topic.

And if children get shredded in school oh well its a sacrifice we must make so you can have your stupid pieces of metal and wooden targets.

If it isn't clear by now it isn't so much about one tool, it's about the ever encroachment of enumerated rights, rights that are essential to liberty.
Again, get that record fixed seems it's skipped back to track 1.

[Kernen]

I think you need a new record, seems the one you are playing is scratched.

I don't care what you think. People with your attitude sicken me. You want no gun laws at all and whoever is injured or worse you don't care as long you have your stupid worthless pieces of metal. Call me a gun grabber but your viewpoints are disgusting.

If you can come up with a law that doesn't violate the current precedent, it won't be Unconstitutional. Simple.

[Kernen]

Yes. The Bruen standard permits those gun laws that conform with traditional regulation in the US, like prohibitions of felon ownership. Those are constitutional. You'd know that if you knew literally anything about the law on this topic.

And if children get shredded in school oh well its a sacrifice we must make so you can have your stupid pieces of metal and wooden targets.

You clearly don't understand how judicial review works, huh bud?

[San Lumen]

I don't care what you think. People with your attitude sicken me. You want no gun laws at all and whoever is injured or worse you don't care as long you have your stupid worthless pieces of metal. Call me a gun grabber but your viewpoints are disgusting.

If you can come up with a law that doesn't violate the current precedent, it won't be Unconstitutional. Simple.

No gun laws don't violate the constitution to you. Why don't you get some similar minded people together and file a lawsuit claiming you have the right to any and all firearms no questions asked?

[Paddy O Fernature]

I don't care what you think.

Likewise.

People with your attitude sicken me.

And people with your attitude amuse me.

You want no gun laws at all and whoever is injured or worse you don't care as long you have your stupid worthless pieces of metal. Call me a gun grabber but your viewpoints are disgusting.

You keep saying this, despite the actual evidence saying otherwise. The Copium is strong apparently.

[Kernen]

If you can come up with a law that doesn't violate the current precedent, it won't be Unconstitutional. Simple.

No gun laws don't violate the constitution to you. Why don't you get some similar minded people together and file a lawsuit claiming you have the right to any and all firearms no questions asked?

This is another lie. See below.

Those are your exact words.



How? Are any gun laws constitutional to you? I suspect the answer is no.

Yes. The Bruen standard permits those gun laws that conform with traditional regulation in the US, like prohibitions of felon ownership. Those are constitutional. You'd know that if you knew literally anything about the law on this topic.

We are. We have a very good chance of getting federal laws banning machine guns repealed. I have contacted the FPC offering my services as local counsel if they want to try it in the 1st Circuit. I doubt they'll go with me, but I tried.

[Greater Cesnica]

I think you need a new record, seems the one you are playing is scratched.

I don't care what you think. People with your attitude sicken me. You want no gun laws at all and whoever is injured or worse you don't care as long you have your stupid worthless pieces of metal. Call me a gun grabber but your viewpoints are disgusting.

Your agenda entails using state power against tens, if not hundreds of millions of peaceable people. It entails the wholesale slaughter of many tens or hundreds of thousands. The anti-gun crusade is anti-human and grotesque. Spare me your faux moral outrage.

[Grinning Dragon]

If you can come up with a law that doesn't violate the current precedent, it won't be Unconstitutional. Simple.

No gun laws don't violate the constitution to you. Why don't you get some similar minded people together and file a lawsuit claiming you have the right to any and all firearms no questions asked?

The 2nd Amendment doesn't allow for the criminal misuse of arms, such as in rape, robbery or murder.
As to your other statement, we are, why do you think groups such as the FPC and GOA exist?

[San Lumen]

No gun laws don't violate the constitution to you. Why don't you get some similar minded people together and file a lawsuit claiming you have the right to any and all firearms no questions asked?

This is another lie. See below.

Yes. The Bruen standard permits those gun laws that conform with traditional regulation in the US, like prohibitions of felon ownership. Those are constitutional. You'd know that if you knew literally anything about the law on this topic.

We are. We have a very good chance of getting federal laws banning machine guns repealed.

What the heck do you need one for? Shredding a deer or tearing apart a wooden target?

[Greater Cesnica]

No gun laws don't violate the constitution to you. Why don't you get some similar minded people together and file a lawsuit claiming you have the right to any and all firearms no questions asked?

The 2nd Amendment doesn't allow for the criminal misuse of arms, such as in rape, robbery or murder.
As to your other statement, we are, why do you think groups such as the FPC and GOA exist?

Lumen doesn't know what those are. He thinks only the NRA exists.

[Kernen]

This is another lie. See below.

We are. We have a very good chance of getting federal laws banning machine guns repealed.

What the heck do you need one for? Shredding a deer or tearing apart a wooden target?

That's the great thing about the 2A. It doesn't require a showing of need.

[Greater Cesnica]

This is another lie. See below.

We are. We have a very good chance of getting federal laws banning machine guns repealed.

What the heck do you need one for? Shredding a deer or tearing apart a wooden target?

A machine gun serves the purpose of deterring state power and totalitarianism. It provides the populace the means to violently resist oppression and to fight a military force. You know, what the Second Amendment was actually written to facilitate.

[San Lumen]

What the heck do you need one for? Shredding a deer or tearing apart a wooden target?

That's the great thing about the 2A. It doesn't require a showing of need.

I don't care and if machine guns laws are repealed states should ban their sales and fine stores that sell them. Remove their license.

[Paddy O Fernature]

This is another lie. See below.

We are. We have a very good chance of getting federal laws banning machine guns repealed.

What the heck do you need one for? Shredding a deer or tearing apart a wooden target?

All law abiding reasons aside, I personally want another just to twist the AG's into a frenzy even further. Brings a tear to my eye.

[Kernen]

That's the great thing about the 2A. It doesn't require a showing of need.

I don't care and if machine guns laws are repealed states should ban their sales and fine stores that sell them. Remove their license.

That wouldn't comport with the law and therefore would be overturned in court. You wanting something is not the sole hurdle to legality, buckaroo.

[San Lumen]

What the heck do you need one for? Shredding a deer or tearing apart a wooden target?

All law abiding reasons aside, I personally want another just to twist the AG's into a frenzy even further. Brings a tear to my eye.

Ah yes lets make the liberals cry. Your lot is despicable and I wish there was law your guns could be grabbed and smashed in front of you or gun shops could have all their merchandise broken.

[Grinning Dragon]

That's the great thing about the 2A. It doesn't require a showing of need.

I don't care and if machine guns laws are repealed states should ban their sales and fine stores that sell them. Remove their license.

Well that darn pesky 14th Amendment is going to be roadblock to states banning their sale if the supreme court struck down the No Fun Act.

[Paddy O Fernature]

That's the great thing about the 2A. It doesn't require a showing of need.

I don't care and if machine guns laws are repealed states should ban their sales and fine stores that sell them. Remove their license.

Just ignore the damm court and tell them to pound sand.

[Kernen]

All law abiding reasons aside, I personally want another just to twist the AG's into a frenzy even further. Brings a tear to my eye.

Ah yes lets make the liberals cry. Your lot is despicable and I wish there was law your guns could be grabbed and smashed in front of you or gun shops could have all their merchandise broken.

That's OK. It's not hard to make more.

Of course that's theoretically a good reason to use said guns.

[San Lumen]

I don't care and if machine guns laws are repealed states should ban their sales and fine stores that sell them. Remove their license.

That wouldn't comport with the law and therefore would be overturned in court. You wanting something is not the sole hurdle to legality, buckaroo.

And at the next mass shooting involving a machine gun you'll give your thoughts and prayers and its a sacrifice we me must make in the name of freedom.

[Kernen]

That wouldn't comport with the law and therefore would be overturned in court. You wanting something is not the sole hurdle to legality, buckaroo.

And at the next mass shooting involving a machine gun you'll give your thoughts and prayers and its a sacrifice we me must make in the name of freedom.

Mass shootings don't change the law. In this case amendments change the law.

[Paddy O Fernature]

All law abiding reasons aside, I personally want another just to twist the AG's into a frenzy even further. Brings a tear to my eye.

Ah yes lets make the liberals cry. Your lot is despicable and I wish there was law your guns could be grabbed and smashed in front of you or gun shops could have all their merchandise broken.

I never said anything about Liberals, that's your words. I said AG's, that's across all spectrum's and platforms.

As for the rest... you are more then welcome to come and try to smash my firearms in front of my face any time you so please.

[Greater Cesnica]

All law abiding reasons aside, I personally want another just to twist the AG's into a frenzy even further. Brings a tear to my eye.

Ah yes lets make the liberals cry. Your lot is despicable and I wish there was law your guns could be grabbed and smashed in front of you or gun shops could have all their merchandise broken.

I do love making anti-gunners cry.

Your wishes at this point have devolved to baseless frustrations. It's about as petty as me wanting to smash up those theatres you love going to so much.