Gun Control 2023 (V) - ATF Shenanigans, States Fight Back!

[Urkennalaid]

Wanting gun reform because of the reality of so many dead children isn't dancing on their corpses.

Do you think the parents of dead children from school shooting are using their own dead kids to push an agenda? So tired of this bullshit, you don't fucking care about the kids, you guys said so yourselves. Yeah, I'm "dancing" over their corpses because I want gun legislation so this can stop happening. Get over yourself.

[American Legionaries]

Wanting gun reform because of the reality of so many dead children isn't dancing on their corpses.

It is.

Do you think the parents of dead children from school shooting are using their own dead kids to push an agenda?

If they're advocating for gun control.

So tired of this bullshit, you don't fucking care about the kids, you guys said so yourselves. Yeah, I'm "dancing" over their corpses because I want gun legislation so this can stop happening. Get over yourself.

I said no such thing.

[Urkennalaid]

Thats PSYCHOTIC. Saying parents of dead children are dancing on their own childrens corpses for advocating for gun control is ghoulish. I hope to GOD you never have to experience something as horrible as this. In other news, here's the gofundme of a child whos whole family was killed in the Allen Texas shooting.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/allen-tx-shootingrip-kyu-cindy-and-james-cho

[Paddy O Fernature]

Wanting gun reform because of the reality of so many dead children isn't dancing on their corpses.

Debatable, but shamelessly using them as puppets to not only prop up but push your agenda before the crime scene is even cold absolutely is. It's also incredibly immoral and ghoulish to boot as well.

Do you think the parents of dead children from school shooting are using their own dead kids to push an agenda?

If they set foot in front of a camera behind a podium and preach about pointless reforms before even a funeral has been performed then yes, they absolutely are. That's literally what it means to do so. Not all do it, but some absolutely do.

So tired of this bullshit, you don't fucking care about the kids, you guys said so yourselves. Yeah, I'm "dancing" over their corpses because I want gun legislation so this can stop happening. Get over yourself.

We do care. What we don't care for is further expanding upon said tragedies by fucking over million of innocent people who had absolutely zero in connection with said tragedy. Something you lot can't seem to understand no matter how many times it's pointed out.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Thats PSYCHOTIC. Saying parents of dead children are dancing on their own childrens corpses for advocating for gun control is ghoulish.....

Were not the ones doing it so.... a long look in the mirror might do you lot some good on that front. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[American Legionaries]

Thats PSYCHOTIC. Saying parents of dead children are dancing on their own childrens corpses for advocating for gun control is ghoulish. I hope to GOD you never have to experience something as horrible as this. In other news, here's the gofundme of a child whos whole family was killed in the Allen Texas shooting.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/allen-tx-shootingrip-kyu-cindy-and-james-cho

No, dancing on the corpses of your kid to advance horrible cruel policy is ghoulish. Me telling them to stop is good and decent.

[Urkennalaid]

Wanting gun reform because of the reality of so many dead children isn't dancing on their corpses.

Debatable, but shamelessly using them as puppets to not only prop up but push your agenda before the crime scene is even cold absolutely is. It's also incredibly immoral and ghoulish to boot as well.

Do you think the parents of dead children from school shooting are using their own dead kids to push an agenda?

If they set foot in front of a camera behind a podium and preach about pointless reforms before even a funeral has been performed then yes, they absolutely are. That's literally what it means to do so. Not all do it, but some absolutely do.

So tired of this bullshit, you don't fucking care about the kids, you guys said so yourselves. Yeah, I'm "dancing" over their corpses because I want gun legislation so this can stop happening. Get over yourself.

We do care. What we don't care for is further expanding upon said tragedies by fucking over million of innocent people who had absolutely zero in connection with said tragedy. Something you lot can't seem to understand no matter how many times it's pointed out.

Gun reform isn't fucking millions of people over. I mean, unless you consider literally every regulated thing in America as fucking millions of people over.

Totally unrelated, but there's also recent news that a new Texas law is being passed where schools have to have bleeding stations and children as early as third grade have to learn tourniquet battlefield techniques. Nothing unusual with this though, totally nothing wrong. It's definitely NOT the guns. Nope.

[Urkennalaid]

Thats PSYCHOTIC. Saying parents of dead children are dancing on their own childrens corpses for advocating for gun control is ghoulish. I hope to GOD you never have to experience something as horrible as this. In other news, here's the gofundme of a child whos whole family was killed in the Allen Texas shooting.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/allen-tx-shootingrip-kyu-cindy-and-james-cho

No, dancing Ilona the corpses of your kid to advance horrible cruel policy is ghoulish. Me telling them to stop is good and decent.

Millions over the world are affected by...uh...gun control. So horrible. They're struggling SO much not having to worry about mass shootings. I don't even care anymore, keep crying about them taking your guns, I'm gonna continue advocating for gun control. Literally do not give a shit.

[Galloism]

Debatable, but shamelessly using them as puppets to not only prop up but push your agenda before the crime scene is even cold absolutely is. It's also incredibly immoral and ghoulish to boot as well.



If they set foot in front of a camera behind a podium and preach about pointless reforms before even a funeral has been performed then yes, they absolutely are. That's literally what it means to do so. Not all do it, but some absolutely do.



We do care. What we don't care for is further expanding upon said tragedies by fucking over million of innocent people who had absolutely zero in connection with said tragedy. Something you lot can't seem to understand no matter how many times it's pointed out.

Gun reform isn't fucking millions of people over. I mean, unless you consider literally every regulated thing in America as fucking millions of people over.

Totally unrelated, but there's also recent news that a new Texas law is being passed where schools have to have bleeding stations and children as early as third grade have to learn tourniquet battlefield techniques. Nothing unusual with this though, totally nothing wrong. It's definitely NOT the guns. Nope.

Tbh, everyone should know how to tie a tourniquet. Nothing to do with gun violence either - tourniquets can be life saving in all manner of crises, disasters, and accidents.

[American Legionaries]

No, dancing Ilona the corpses of your kid to advance horrible cruel policy is ghoulish. Me telling them to stop is good and decent.

Millions over the world are affected by...uh...gun control. So horrible. They're struggling SO much not having to worry about mass shootings.

This, but unironically.

I don't even care anymore, keep crying about them taking your guns, I'm gonna continue advocating for gun control. Literally do not give a shit.

You never have, about the kids, or anyone else.

[American Legionaries]

Debatable, but shamelessly using them as puppets to not only prop up but push your agenda before the crime scene is even cold absolutely is. It's also incredibly immoral and ghoulish to boot as well.



If they set foot in front of a camera behind a podium and preach about pointless reforms before even a funeral has been performed then yes, they absolutely are. That's literally what it means to do so. Not all do it, but some absolutely do.



We do care. What we don't care for is further expanding upon said tragedies by fucking over million of innocent people who had absolutely zero in connection with said tragedy. Something you lot can't seem to understand no matter how many times it's pointed out.

Gun reform isn't fucking millions of people over. I mean, unless you consider literally every regulated thing in America as fucking millions of people over.

Totally unrelated, but there's also recent news that a new Texas law is being passed where schools have to have bleeding stations and children as early as third grade have to learn tourniquet battlefield techniques. Nothing unusual with this though, totally nothing wrong. It's definitely NOT the guns. Nope.

I don't know what the problem is, people are being taught lifesaving procedures at a young age so fewer people die and this angers you?

[Urkennalaid]

Millions over the world are affected by...uh...gun control. So horrible. They're struggling SO much not having to worry about mass shootings.

This, but unironically.

I don't even care anymore, keep crying about them taking your guns, I'm gonna continue advocating for gun control. Literally do not give a shit.

You never have, about the kids, or anyone else.

Yeah no, I don't care about the kids, totally. Everyone who advocates for gun control doesn't care about the kids, and everyone who advocates against gun control does. So true. So true.

Also, gotta love how people NOT worrying about mass shootings is a BAD thing in your opinion. Keep making your side look insane.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Gun reform isn't fucking millions of people over. I mean, unless you consider literally every regulated thing in America as fucking millions of people over.

In this case though, it LITERALLY IS. When you make a criminal out of a law abiding citizen with the swipe of a pen for owning a tool that was purchased legally in the past, and who has committed no crime with said tool, that's exactly what you are doing. This is what has been proposed multiple times in the past by AG's in Congress and likely will be continued to be proposed in the future going forward as there is no reason not to believe that it wont. Denying it over and over again doesn't magically make it not true.

Totally unrelated, but there's also recent news that a new Texas law is being passed where schools have to have bleeding stations and children as early as third grade have to learn tourniquet battlefield techniques. Nothing unusual with this though, totally nothing wrong. It's definitely NOT the guns. Nope.

And?

First Aid is something that has been taught in schools since like, forever I feel like. Expanding on that isn't anything new or news worthy. A little preventative measure now could save a life some day, so I'm honestly not shocked that you are against it as that's par for the course for you at this point.

[American Legionaries]

This, but unironically.



You never have, about the kids, or anyone else.

Yeah no, I don't care about the kids, totally. Everyone who advocates for gun control doesn't care about the kids, and everyone who advocates against gun control does. So true. So true.

See, now you're getting it.

Also, gotta love how people NOT worrying about mass shootings is a BAD thing in your opinion. Keep making your side look insane.

Yes, not worrying about mass shootings is a bad thing. How that makes me look insane is the mystery here.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Gun reform isn't fucking millions of people over. I mean, unless you consider literally every regulated thing in America as fucking millions of people over.

Totally unrelated, but there's also recent news that a new Texas law is being passed where schools have to have bleeding stations and children as early as third grade have to learn tourniquet battlefield techniques. Nothing unusual with this though, totally nothing wrong. It's definitely NOT the guns. Nope.

I don't know what the problem is, people are being taught lifesaving procedures at a young age so fewer people die and this angers you?

It's almost like he doesn't actually care about saving lives and just wants to be perpetually upset of anything and everything....

[Urkennalaid]

And?

First Aid is something that has been taught in schools since like, forever I feel like. Expanding on that isn't anything new or news worthy. A little preventative measure now could save a life some day, so I'm honestly not shocked that you are against it as that's par for the course for you at this point.

I like how you're intentionally being disingenuous in thinking first aid is the same as being a 3rd grader and having to know how to wrap your bleeding friend up because they got shot in a school shooting. That's so normal. So normal that every other nation in the world teaches 8 year olds how to make sure their friend doesn't bleed to death.

[American Legionaries]

I don't know what the problem is, people are being taught lifesaving procedures at a young age so fewer people die and this angers you?

It's almost like he doesn't actually care about saving lives and just wants to be perpetually upset of anything and everything....

If something bad happens and little Jimmy uses his first aid skills to save little Tommy, how will Urkennalaid twist little Tommy's death to advocate the oppression of millions?

[American Legionaries]

And?

First Aid is something that has been taught in schools since like, forever I feel like. Expanding on that isn't anything new or news worthy. A little preventative measure now could save a life some day, so I'm honestly not shocked that you are against it as that's par for the course for you at this point.

I like how you're intentionally being disingenuous in thinking first aid is the same as being a 3rd grader and having to know how to wrap your bleeding friend up because they got shot in a school shooting. That's so normal. So normal that every other nation in the world teaches 8 year olds how to make sure their friend doesn't bleed to death.

Stopping someone from bleeding with a tourniquet is first aid. And since first aid performed by an eight year old remains first aid, Paddy is quite provably correct in his thoughts.

[Urkennalaid]

It's almost like he doesn't actually care about saving lives and just wants to be perpetually upset of anything and everything....

If something bad happens and little Jimmy uses his first aid skills to save little Tommy, how will Urkennalaid twist little Tommy's death to advocate the oppression of millions?

Yeah, it's so normal little Jimmy needs to know battlefield care to help his friend who's face might be gone, like what a survivor of the Allen shooting described as one of the dead.

That's such a normal thing. Reminder, we aren't talking about basic first aid, we're talking about being taught battlefield care at school in case of SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.

[Vrbo]

And?

First Aid is something that has been taught in schools since like, forever I feel like. Expanding on that isn't anything new or news worthy. A little preventative measure now could save a life some day, so I'm honestly not shocked that you are against it as that's par for the course for you at this point.

I like how you're intentionally being disingenuous in thinking first aid is the same as being a 3rd grader and having to know how to wrap your bleeding friend up because they got shot in a school shooting. That's so normal. So normal that every other nation in the world teaches 8 year olds how to make sure their friend doesn't bleed to death.

Are you being facetious in that 3rd graders shouldn’t be taught first aid that could potentially save somebody’s life.

[Urkennalaid]

I like how you're intentionally being disingenuous in thinking first aid is the same as being a 3rd grader and having to know how to wrap your bleeding friend up because they got shot in a school shooting. That's so normal. So normal that every other nation in the world teaches 8 year olds how to make sure their friend doesn't bleed to death.

Are you being facetious in that 3rd graders shouldn’t be taught first aid that could potentially save somebody’s life.

Are you being facetious as to why 3rd graders now have to understand medical knowledge in order to save their friends at school?

[American Legionaries]

If something bad happens and little Jimmy uses his first aid skills to save little Tommy, how will Urkennalaid twist little Tommy's death to advocate the oppression of millions?

Yeah, it's so normal little Jimmy needs to know battlefield care to help his friend who's face might be gone, like what a survivor of the Allen shooting described as one of the dead.

That's such a normal thing. Reminder, we aren't talking about basic first aid, we're talking about being taught battlefield care at school in case of SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.

Yes, learning first aid is normal. Or at least it ought to be.

[Paddy O Fernature]

It's almost like he doesn't actually care about saving lives and just wants to be perpetually upset of anything and everything....

If something bad happens and little Jimmy uses his first aid skills to save little Tommy, how will Urkennalaid twist little Tommy's death to advocate the oppression of millions?

Again, Ghoulish is a term that fits well here.

I like how you're intentionally being disingenuous in thinking first aid is the same as being a 3rd grader and having to know how to wrap your bleeding friend up because they got shot in a school shooting. That's so normal. So normal that every other nation in the world teaches 8 year olds how to make sure their friend doesn't bleed to death.

Stopping someone from bleeding with a tourniquet is first aid. And since first aid performed by an eight year old remains first aid, Paddy is quite provably correct in his thoughts.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I mean, he LITERALLY is "genuinely" upset that first aid and a possible life saving measure is being taught to kids. Kids I say! Oh the humanity! Oh the horror!

[American Legionaries]

Stopping someone from bleeding with a tourniquet is first aid. And since first aid performed by an eight year old remains first aid, Paddy is quite provably correct in his thoughts.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

I mean, he LITERALLY is "genuinely" upset that first aid and a possible life saving measure is being taught to kids. Kids I say! Oh the humanity! Oh the horror!

Maybe he didn't get the memo about pretending that kids dying is bad?

[Paddy O Fernature]

Are you being facetious in that 3rd graders shouldn’t be taught first aid that could potentially save somebody’s life.

Are you being facetious as to why 3rd graders now have to understand medical knowledge in order to save their friends at school?

Are you also upset that AED's are designed for children to use and operate if needed?