Gun Control 2023 (V) - ATF Shenanigans, States Fight Back!

[Paddy O Fernature]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

"All that hates gonna burn you up kid..."

[Grinning Dragon]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

"All that hates gonna burn you up kid..."

"It keeps me warm"
Edit to add. The chair is against the wall and John has a long mustache"

[Juansonia]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

1. Punishing people solely for their party affiliation is a hate crime.
2. Most voters (in the US) aren't registered with either party
3. Your entire argument here is "appeal to emotion" and "coercion", both of which mean that you have no intent of discussing the problem.

[American Legionaries]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

I help develop emergency plans and procedures for the local school district, so I watch them anyway.

[Grinning Dragon]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

1. Punishing people solely for their party affiliation is a hate crime.
2. Most voters (in the US) aren't registered with either party
3. Your entire argument here is "appeal to emotion" and "coercion", both of which mean that you have no intent of discussing the problem.

Seen dash-cam video and it seems there were 3 vehicles that could have ran the shitbrick over.

[Paddy O Fernature]

"All that hates gonna burn you up kid..."

"It keeps me warm"
Edit to add. The chair is against the wall and John has a long mustache"

It’s 11:59 on Radio Free America; this is Uncle Sam, with music, and the truth until dawn. Right now I’ve got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the Democratic occupied zone...

[Grinning Dragon]

"It keeps me warm"
Edit to add. The chair is against the wall and John has a long mustache"

It’s 11:59 on Radio Free America; this is Uncle Sam, with music, and the truth until dawn. Right now I’ve got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the Democratic occupied zone...

*Wolverine intensifies....*

[Paddy O Fernature]

It’s 11:59 on Radio Free America; this is Uncle Sam, with music, and the truth until dawn. Right now I’ve got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the Democratic occupied zone...

*Wolverine intensifies....*

Carry the light always friends.

[The Two Jerseys]

"All that hates gonna burn you up kid..."

"It keeps me warm"
Edit to add. The chair is against the wall and John has a long mustache"

*grabs helmet and champagne*

[Grinning Dragon]

What in the blue chocolate jesus on a pogo stick is this shit?
PA’s Insane Ammunition Registration Database, Wants All Your Ammo to Have Separate Serial Numbers

The bill would create an “encoded ammunition database,” which would contain comprehensive records of all ammunition sold or purchased, including details from the manufacturer, seller, and purchaser. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade organization for the shooting sports industry, has raised concerns about exactly this type of database in a recent Bullet Serialization Fact Sheet [embedded below], noting that it could have negative implications for public safety and law enforcement.

The bill has several provisions, including a requirement that all ammunition sold in Pennsylvania must be encoded with multiple serial numbers. This means that a manufacturer must add individual serial numbers to all ammunition provided for retail sale in a manner yet to be established by the Pennsylvania State Police commissioner. Each bullet would have a unique serial number located at its base, inside the cartridge casing, and outside the box of ammunition.

[Caurus]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

Why is it that the "Do Something" crowd always opens with a non-starter? Maybe we could prevent a mass shooting, maybe, but the immediate place gun control advocates always seem to go is to AWB's and mag bans. There's an observable pattern of characteristics that these mass shooters seem to have, a history of mental illness and antisocial behavior, an unstable homelife (e.g. Sandy Hook and Uvalde), and many are known to law enforcement before hand (e.g. Parkland and Buffalo), but instead of proposing something, anything, that could isolate potential shooters before they go on their sprees, activists beat the same tired drum.

But maybe, just maybe, your post gives it all away: "Republicans should..." It's the culture war, "Assault Weapons" are inextricably linked to a strawman out of a Horsey cartoon, like this

It isn't about the kids, public safety, et cetera, et cetera is it? No, it's about "owning the Cons" just like how DeSantis' campaign against the "woke" is about the "owning the Libs". We aren't going to get anywhere, and in the meantime, these shootings will continue to happen, even in the states that enacted the kind of legislation advocated for.

[Caurus]

What in the blue chocolate jesus on a pogo stick is this shit?
PA’s Insane Ammunition Registration Database, Wants All Your Ammo to Have Separate Serial Numbers

The bill would create an “encoded ammunition database,” which would contain comprehensive records of all ammunition sold or purchased, including details from the manufacturer, seller, and purchaser. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade organization for the shooting sports industry, has raised concerns about exactly this type of database in a recent Bullet Serialization Fact Sheet [embedded below], noting that it could have negative implications for public safety and law enforcement.

The bill has several provisions, including a requirement that all ammunition sold in Pennsylvania must be encoded with multiple serial numbers. This means that a manufacturer must add individual serial numbers to all ammunition provided for retail sale in a manner yet to be established by the Pennsylvania State Police commissioner. Each bullet would have a unique serial number located at its base, inside the cartridge casing, and outside the box of ammunition.

What would the benefit even be? That you could track down a gunman from the casing left behind? Maybe I'm just being intentionally naive, thinking that this is in good faith like that.

[The Two Jerseys]

What in the blue chocolate jesus on a pogo stick is this shit?
PA’s Insane Ammunition Registration Database, Wants All Your Ammo to Have Separate Serial Numbers

The bill would create an “encoded ammunition database,” which would contain comprehensive records of all ammunition sold or purchased, including details from the manufacturer, seller, and purchaser. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade organization for the shooting sports industry, has raised concerns about exactly this type of database in a recent Bullet Serialization Fact Sheet [embedded below], noting that it could have negative implications for public safety and law enforcement.

The bill has several provisions, including a requirement that all ammunition sold in Pennsylvania must be encoded with multiple serial numbers. This means that a manufacturer must add individual serial numbers to all ammunition provided for retail sale in a manner yet to be established by the Pennsylvania State Police commissioner. Each bullet would have a unique serial number located at its base, inside the cartridge casing, and outside the box of ammunition.

*sells batch of serialized ammo to PA State Police*

*secretly marks retail ammo with same serials*

[Juansonia]

What in the blue chocolate jesus on a pogo stick is this shit?
PA’s Insane Ammunition Registration Database, Wants All Your Ammo to Have Separate Serial Numbers

The bill would create an “encoded ammunition database,” which would contain comprehensive records of all ammunition sold or purchased, including details from the manufacturer, seller, and purchaser. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade organization for the shooting sports industry, has raised concerns about exactly this type of database in a recent Bullet Serialization Fact Sheet [embedded below], noting that it could have negative implications for public safety and law enforcement.

The bill has several provisions, including a requirement that all ammunition sold in Pennsylvania must be encoded with multiple serial numbers. This means that a manufacturer must add individual serial numbers to all ammunition provided for retail sale in a manner yet to be established by the Pennsylvania State Police commissioner. Each bullet would have a unique serial number located at its base, inside the cartridge casing, and outside the box of ammunition.

People refill spent ammo, often separating casing and bullet. Would every shot fired have to be registered?

[Ryemarch]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings.

Who's going to clean up after they all orgasm?

[American Legionaries]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings.

Who's going to clean up after they all orgasm?

Your sexual fantasies don't make real life messes.

[Grinning Dragon]

What in the blue chocolate jesus on a pogo stick is this shit?
PA’s Insane Ammunition Registration Database, Wants All Your Ammo to Have Separate Serial Numbers

What would the benefit even be? That you could track down a gunman from the casing left behind? Maybe I'm just being intentionally naive, thinking that this is in good faith like that.

Yeah, I don't think it's going to work they way they envisioned after hitting the crack pipe. Ammo manufacturers would have to retool to imprint it on the bullet. Then there is the problem of when a bullet hits its target, it gets destroyed or perhaps this is PAs way of manufacturers not selling ammo in the state.

[Ryemarch]

Who's going to clean up after they all orgasm?

Your sexual fantasies don't make real life messes.

Unlike the mass shootings that the GOP hopes to pray away.

[The Two Jerseys]

What would the benefit even be? That you could track down a gunman from the casing left behind? Maybe I'm just being intentionally naive, thinking that this is in good faith like that.

Yeah, I don't think it's going to work they way they envisioned after hitting the crack pipe. Ammo manufacturers would have to retool, then you have the issue that it would have to be printed as I would think laser etching and or stamping would cause weak points in the casing and no manufacturer is going to want the headache of being sued when shit goes sideways. Perhaps PA's end goal it that the manufacturers just wont sell ammo to the state.

A few years later...

"OMG, I just hit another deer! This is the fifth Mercedes they've totaled, why isn't anyone doing something about all these deer running around?"

[Paddy O Fernature]

What would the benefit even be? That you could track down a gunman from the casing left behind? Maybe I'm just being intentionally naive, thinking that this is in good faith like that.

Yeah, I don't think it's going to work they way they envisioned after hitting the crack pipe. Ammo manufacturers would have to retool to imprint it on the bullet. Then there is the problem of when a bullet hits its target, it gets destroyed

You and I both know that this was purely proposed out of pure malice with absolutely zero intent to actually solve anything.

[Urkennalaid]

Republicans should be forced to watch the footage of all these mass shootings. Another mass shooting happened in Texas. This is PREVENTABLE.

1. Punishing people solely for their party affiliation is a hate crime.
2. Most voters (in the US) aren't registered with either party
3. Your entire argument here is "appeal to emotion" and "coercion", both of which mean that you have no intent of discussing the problem.

You can't just say "appeal to emotion." I swear people find out about words like, "fallacy" and "appeal to emotion" and then just use them in situations where they aren't accurate. Btw, I didn't mean republican voters(although some are crazy enough to where they probably sbhould), I meant republican lawmakers like Desantis, MTG, Ted Cruz, etc.

Also, that's...not a hate crime. What? You aren't born a republican or democrat. It's not a feature that you can't get rid of.

[Paddy O Fernature]

1. Punishing people solely for their party affiliation is a hate crime.
2. Most voters (in the US) aren't registered with either party
3. Your entire argument here is "appeal to emotion" and "coercion", both of which mean that you have no intent of discussing the problem.

You can't just say "appeal to emotion." I swear people find out about words like, "fallacy" and "appeal to emotion" and then just use them in situations where they aren't accurate. Btw, I didn't mean republican voters(although some are crazy enough to where they probably sbhould), I meant republican lawmakers like Desantis, MTG, Ted Cruz, etc.

Also, that's...not a hate crime. What? You aren't born a republican or democrat. It's not a feature that you can't get rid of.

You might have a point, if only for the small detail that you are absolutely wrong and that, yes indeed, they absolutely are accurate in describing your laughable argument as presented.

[Kernen]

1. Punishing people solely for their party affiliation is a hate crime.
2. Most voters (in the US) aren't registered with either party
3. Your entire argument here is "appeal to emotion" and "coercion", both of which mean that you have no intent of discussing the problem.

You can't just say "appeal to emotion." I swear people find out about words like, "fallacy" and "appeal to emotion" and then just use them in situations where they aren't accurate. Btw, I didn't mean republican voters(although some are crazy enough to where they probably sbhould), I meant republican lawmakers like Desantis, MTG, Ted Cruz, etc.

Also, that's...not a hate crime. What? You aren't born a republican or democrat. It's not a feature that you can't get rid of.

But it is an appeal to emotion. The merits of gun control vs gun rights exist regardless of whether you see a shooting.

Fwiw, I've seen plenty of footage from mass shootings, including the Buffalo shooter's stream, and it hasn't budged me an inch. Elect me!

[Ryemarch]

You aren't born a republican or democrat. It's not a feature that you can't get rid of.

You might have a point, if only for the small detail that you are absolutely wrong

"Absolutely" is one of those tricky words that might lead one to assert claims they didn't intend. Unless there's been an astonishing discovery in human genetics that I'm unaware of?

[The Two Jerseys]

1. Punishing people solely for their party affiliation is a hate crime.
2. Most voters (in the US) aren't registered with either party
3. Your entire argument here is "appeal to emotion" and "coercion", both of which mean that you have no intent of discussing the problem.

You can't just say "appeal to emotion." I swear people find out about words like, "fallacy" and "appeal to emotion" and then just use them in situations where they aren't accurate. Btw, I didn't mean republican voters(although some are crazy enough to where they probably sbhould), I meant republican lawmakers like Desantis, MTG, Ted Cruz, etc.

Also, that's...not a hate crime. What? You aren't born a republican or democrat. It's not a feature that you can't get rid of.

Except "appeal to emotion" fits your post to a T...