Attacks in Iran: Potentially the start of a new war?

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I think we're all forgetting Isreal absolutely brilliant network of anti missile installations. Its called the Iron dome just wondering if anybody remembers that



Most definitely. But I feel like if Isreal wanted war they wpuld be striking more than just one measly weapons factory

Iron dome wouldn't save them. A nuclear explosion directly above a city would still annihilate it

You know the iron dome isn't actually a dome, right? It's a missile interception system. One would not attempt to detonate a nuke above an Israeli city to bypass Israel's defenses - the missile will either be intercepted en route or it won't be.

[Khurkhogur]

You know the iron dome isn't actually a dome, right? It's a missile interception system. One would not attempt to detonate a nuke above an Israeli city to bypass Israel's defenses - the missile will either be intercepted en route or it won't be.

Intercepted above where, exactly? Because whatever land is below where it is intercepted will be absolutely fucked. That's the point.

Intercepted in the one place still not corrupted by capitalism: SPACE!

[Vistulange]

You know the iron dome isn't actually a dome, right? It's a missile interception system. One would not attempt to detonate a nuke above an Israeli city to bypass Israel's defenses - the missile will either be intercepted en route or it won't be.

Intercepted above where, exactly? Because whatever land is below where it is intercepted will be absolutely fucked. That's the point.

Contrary to popular depictions of nuclear weapons or reactors, nuclear weapons don't explode in a magnificent fireball when they are blown up. The reactions necessary for a proper nuclear detonation are precise, so just intercepting a nuclear weapon is not going to flatten Tel Aviv.

[Ethel mermania]

Contrary to popular depictions of nuclear weapons or reactors, nuclear weapons don't explode in a magnificent fireball when they are blown up. The reactions necessary for a proper nuclear detonation are precise, so just intercepting a nuclear weapon is not going to flatten Tel Aviv.

Personally, I'd be kind of weary of detonating an armed nuclear missile. But that's just me, I guess.

Once it is shot at you you don't have a lot of choice in the matter

[El Lazaro]

Iron dome wouldn't save them. A nuclear explosion directly above a city would still annihilate it

You know the iron dome isn't actually a dome, right? It's a missile interception system. One would not attempt to detonate a nuke above an Israeli city to bypass Israel's defenses - the missile will either be intercepted en route or it won't be.

I mean, they’d probably do it anyways, seeing as more damage to civilian infrastructure and less sparkling of carcinogenic glitter over the West Bank is probably in line with what Iran wants.

[Cannot think of a name]

Iron dome wouldn't save them. A nuclear explosion directly above a city would still annihilate it

You know the iron dome isn't actually a dome, right? It's a missile interception system. One would not attempt to detonate a nuke above an Israeli city to bypass Israel's defenses - the missile will either be intercepted en route or it won't be.

Isn't the 'iron dome' just automated machine guns that shoot down rockets?
EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong, it's rockets fired at rockets. Just looked like machine guns to me in the little footage I've seen.

Also, why does Iran need an intercontinental missile when Israel is like 1000 miles away?

[Vistulange]

You know the iron dome isn't actually a dome, right? It's a missile interception system. One would not attempt to detonate a nuke above an Israeli city to bypass Israel's defenses - the missile will either be intercepted en route or it won't be.

Isn't the 'iron dome' just automated machine guns that shoot down rockets?
EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong, it's rockets fired at rockets. Just looked like machine guns to me in the little footage I've seen.

Also, why does Iran need an intercontinental missile when Israel is like 1000 miles away?

It doesn't. IRBM's or MRBM's would probably get the job done.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

ah. israel. explains everything

[Picairn]

Also, why does Iran need an intercontinental missile when Israel is like 1000 miles away?

ICBMs are much faster than SR or MRBMs, which makes interception very difficult. Even the US Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system has a mixed success rate (56%) against ICBMs in tests.

[Bahrimontagn]

Lmao Israel at it again, no doubt this will go unpunished.

Israelis are the real mad dogs of the middle east

[Haganham]

I was hoping this was just another NationStates Roleplay being set up, until I saw that it was posted in General. *sigh*

Now you know how it feels >:D

[Romanic Imperium]

Lmao Israel at it again, no doubt this will go unpunished.

Israelis are the real mad dogs of the middle east

You mean as in mad lads? The Israelis are quite ballsy

[Romanic Imperium]

You mean as in mad lads? The Israelis are quite ballsy

The Israelis are swinging as far-right as possible in an increasingly degenerate world and I cannot help but respect them for it.

I don't know how well Isreal and Iran would do in a 1v1. But at the very least Isreal would put up a heck of a fight

[Saiwania]

If Israel is responsible for this incident, it is a fair question. What can or will Iran do about it? Iran is too busy with resolving internal disorder to do beyond the bare minimum against external threats if they still have nationwide protests happening on a chronic basis?

This also has me wondering, just how was Iran so prepared to fight off Iraq back in 1980 when Iraq invaded when Iran's new regime was only a year old and presumably still had internal reorganization and structuring to get done after taking power to root out any elements of the former regime they deposed?

[Romanic Imperium]

I don't know how well Isreal and Iran would do in a 1v1. But at the very least Isreal would put up a heck of a fight

Quantity vs quality. The Israelis are better pound-for-pound fighters but the Iranians have a lot more pounds to throw around.

It depends on how outnumbered Isreal will be

[WayNeacTia]

It depends on how outnumbered Isreal will be

In any fight with Iran they'll be vastly outnumbered.

So are the Ukranians. Amazing how fast Russian weaponry melts under U.S. supplied weapons. Israel has U.S. supplied weapons. Iran uses Russian weaponry. Israel has nukes. Tehran doesn't. The numbers of soldiers on either side is irrelevant and doesn't even factor into the equation.....

[Bahrimontagn]

You mean as in mad lads? The Israelis are quite ballsy

The Israelis are swinging as far-right as possible in an increasingly degenerate world and I cannot help but respect them for it.

Yeah but the second you go all ethno-nationalist the friends of Israel will be calling you an anti-semite lmao.

Lmao Israel at it again, no doubt this will go unpunished.

Israelis are the real mad dogs of the middle east

You mean as in mad lads? The Israelis are quite ballsy

If it was the other way round you would be calling for Iran to be glassed.

If Israel is responsible for this incident, it is a fair question. What can or will Iran do about it? Iran is too busy with resolving internal disorder to do beyond the bare minimum against external threats if they still have nationwide protests happening on a chronic basis?

This also has me wondering, just how was Iran so prepared to fight off Iraq back in 1980 when Iraq invaded when Iran's new regime was only a year old and presumably still had internal reorganization and structuring to get done after taking power to root out any elements of the former regime they deposed?

Partly it was the Iraqis setting themselves too many goals and overstretching, but the Iranians were also able to mobilise the revolutionary fervour with groups like the Basiji. What is even more impressive is that they were able to push back Iraq despite Iraq being supplied by the Soviets, US, UK, Both Germany's and Gulf States etc.

[Romanic Imperium]

It depends on how outnumbered Isreal will be

In any fight with Iran they'll be vastly outnumbered.

Even the best equipped force can be overrun if they are heavily outnumbered

[Hyidai]

It depends on how outnumbered Isreal will be

In any fight with Iran they'll be vastly outnumbered.

By who?

[Romanic Imperium]

In any fight with Iran they'll be vastly outnumbered.

By who?

Iranian forces

[Portzania]

can't wait for Iran to show off its cool ass muscles and FLEX on IsFAKE and iRAN

i am joking

[El Lazaro]

By who?

Iranian forces

It’s not as if they’d land troops in Iran—they’d have to go around the entire Arabian peninsula, going through the Suez Canal, Bab el-Manbed, and the Strait of Hormuz (guesstimating this would take a few days if they had a navy to support such an operation) or conquer Jordan/Syria and then Iraq to launch an invasion. When Israel says they might attack Iran, they mean air strikes and covert sabotage, and when Iran says they will retaliate, they mean proxy terrorist attacks.