The Ukrainian War V: Tanks For The Memories

[Picairn]

We now have visual evidence of at least 31 Russian tanks and vehicles lost during the failed assaults on Vuhledar.

13 Russian tanks (mostly T-72B3), 12 BMP-1/BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 MT-LB, an IMR combat engineering vehicle and some other vehicles.

[Northern Seleucia]

We now have visual evidence of at least 31 Russian tanks and vehicles lost during the failed assaults on Vuhledar.

For those curious, the vehicles below are of the same type lost.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

We now have visual evidence of at least 31 Russian tanks and vehicles lost during the failed assaults on Vuhledar.

13 Russian tanks (mostly T-72B3), 12 BMP-1/BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 MT-LB, an IMR combat engineering vehicle and some other vehicles.

So that's half a motor-rifle battalion without their vehicles now... if they survived... <.<

[The Huskar Social Union]

At least 31 vehicles lost - the aftermath of the Russian attack on Vuhledar, Donetsk Oblast. 13 Russian tanks (mostly T-72B3), 12 BMP-1/BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 MT-LB, an IMR combat engineering vehicle and others were destroyed or damaged and abandoned - Allegedly 31 Russian vehicles, including 13 tanks were lost at Vuhledar according to this source i found via the live map.

Bunch of pictures attached of the destroyed vehicles from the air.

edit: Ah didnt see Picairn already linked this post.

[Northern Seleucia]

Four major explosions in Berdyansk

[Continental Free States]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

I would seriously doubt that, those things are still being developed and have not entered service with anyone i believe. Way too risky to send them off at the moment, they might be trying to sell Ukraine older tanks they have lying around maybe.

[Northern Seleucia]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

I saw that here, and here as well.

[Picairn]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

>russia: T-14 still hasn't appeared in Ukraine
>Rheinmetall: "we're talking with Kyiv about loaning them KF51 Panthers"
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[Northern Seleucia]

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

>russia: T-14 still hasn't appeared in Ukraine
>Rheinmetall: "we're talking with Kyiv about loaning them KF51 Panthers"
<.>

The T-14 can't even get around with it's own power lol.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

Oh wow

[Transsibiria]

I've read somewhere (Twitter, so obviously not credible but still) Rheinmetall's negotiating to send their new Panther KF51 tanks to Ukraine but I'm not sure how trustworthy that is, nor why Rheinmetall would do such a thing and why the Ukrainians might even accept.

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

They want to test them under Battlefield conditions obviously.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

They want to test them under Battlefield conditions obviously.

yes and?

[Tillania]

While German aid is on the low end, it's comparable, as a percentage of GDP, with several other countries aid. Which considering Germany is a rather pacifist country whose military was deeply hollowed out and lacking in investment is saying something. Plus German laws for shipping equipment are also not as conducive as other countries. Germany has also been a major contributor of non lethal aid to Ukraine and has worked through the EU to provide substantial aid.

Blah blah, yes, they haven’t done nothing, but again— they’ve been a reluctant follower, not a leader.

Up until well into the war any arms sale to a country that is at war - including civil wars - was illegal. Export licenses for anything bigger than firearms to non-NATO countries were contentious enough even when that region was at peace.
While that law is now repealed, the principle is still deeply ingrained into the decision making process. This includes the population which were immediately on board with taking in refugees and sending humanitarian aid but needed to get eased into arms shipments and quite a few are still a bit uncomfortable with MBTs.

[The Two Jerseys]

Rheinmetall's CEO himself confirmed this, and said the tanks could arrive in Kyiv in 15 to 18 months. The German government needs to approve the export first, however.

https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehme ... 70680.html

>russia: T-14 still hasn't appeared in Ukraine
>Rheinmetall: "we're talking with Kyiv about loaning them KF51 Panthers"
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[Tarsonis]

at this point, if Sen wants to believe the ultra secret super covert conspiracy theory, despite all the evidence to the contrary, there isn't much you can do.

He doesn't believe the blog post because of its merits (as it has none.) he believes it because it conforms to a narrative he wants to be true.

[Northern Seleucia]

>russia: T-14 still hasn't appeared in Ukraine
>Rheinmetall: "we're talking with Kyiv about loaning them KF51 Panthers"
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Ukrainian Tack Mechanics: *sweats profusely*

[Cuthon]

We now have visual evidence of at least 31 Russian tanks and vehicles lost during the failed assaults on Vuhledar.

13 Russian tanks (mostly T-72B3), 12 BMP-1/BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 MT-LB, an IMR combat engineering vehicle and some other vehicles.

Add in a BMP-2 Terminator to that list.

[Northern Seleucia]

We now have visual evidence of at least 31 Russian tanks and vehicles lost during the failed assaults on Vuhledar.

13 Russian tanks (mostly T-72B3), 12 BMP-1/BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, 2 MT-LB, an IMR combat engineering vehicle and some other vehicles.

Add in a BMP-2 Terminator to that list.

The first confirmed loss of the Terminator so far.

[Hispida]

Add in a BMP-2 Terminator to that list.

The first confirmed loss of the Terminator so far.

-snip-

don't worry. he'll be back.

[Northern Seleucia]

The first confirmed loss of the Terminator so far.

-snip-

don't worry. he'll be back.

[Transsibiria]

They want to test them under Battlefield conditions obviously.

yes and?

Your point?

[Tillania]

yes and?

Your point?

I think they're asking for your point.

[Punished UMN]

Russian advances in the area of Bakhmut and to the north are very dangerous, appears to be little stopping them.