The Ukrainian War V: Tanks For The Memories

[The Lone Alliance]

I am very surprised that this war is actually still ongoing. When the war first started, I thought that Ukraine would fall within a matter of weeks. Then as it quickly became apparent that Russia couldn't actually win this war, I thought that perhaps Putin would get overthrown and his successor would sue for peace.

How much longer until Russia finally gives up?

Who knows, considering we have Russians falling back on thinking "NATO will let Russia win when they run out of missiles" it appears we're facing a situation where Russian pride and Russian stubbornness means that they can't give up because if they give up that means admitting that Russia isn't strong.

To lose the war means destroying Russian pride and the Russian myth that if they pile enough bodies up they'll win over the piles of their own corpses.

There is literally nothing Russia can do that can convince the West to "Let them win", not even threatening nuclear war works anymore.

Not even threatening World War 3.

[Tarsonis]

How many months does it take to make nato missiles
The maximum production rate is 6,480 a year, though it would likely take a year or more to reach that level. The delivery time is 32 months; that is, once an order is placed, it will take 32 months before a missile is delivered.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/will-unit ... -out-tanks

That's specific too the Javelin, and if you read it fully you'd see the issue isn't producing them for the field, it's replacing the stock pile.

I'm not sure why you're pushing this particular line here, but if you're looking for a Russian advantage you're gonna be hard pressed to actually find one.

[Shermania]

I am very surprised that this war is actually still ongoing. When the war first started, I thought that Ukraine would fall within a matter of weeks. Then as it quickly became apparent that Russia couldn't actually win this war, I thought that perhaps Putin would get overthrown and his successor would sue for peace.

How much longer until Russia finally gives up?

Who knows, considering we have Russians falling back on thinking "NATO will let Russia win when they run out of missiles" it appears we're facing a situation where Russian pride and Russian stubbornness means that they can't give up because if they give up that means admitting that Russia isn't strong.

To lose the war means destroying Russian pride and the Russian myth that if they pile enough bodies up they'll win over the piles of their own corpses.

There is literally nothing Russia can do that can convince the West to "Let them win", not even threatening nuclear war works anymore.

Not even threatening World War 3.

It's an odd situation. Where you know that eventually something has to give, but all the forces involved seem so implacable.

Even having a puppet POTUS wouldn't necessarily be enough. The loss of military aid from the US would be a major blow, but other NATO members would likely continue their support. And Russia would have to hold two years just to make the attempt.

[New Zoigai]

It made be used for high advance military vehicles

Is this guy using Google translate…

And no, Russia has no highly advanced military vehicles, their all:
1. Crap
2. Broken down
3. Were destroyed
4. Not enough

I mean there is the BMPT Terminator. Its probably the one of best armored fighting vehicle the Russians have on paper, a "double M2-Bradley". Its potential is severely limited because the Russian doctrine sucks, its a glass canon, and some design flaws on its turrent. But its concept makes the Russians seem somewhat competent.

[The Two Jerseys]

How many months does it take to make nato missiles
The maximum production rate is 6,480 a year, though it would likely take a year or more to reach that level. The delivery time is 32 months; that is, once an order is placed, it will take 32 months before a missile is delivered.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/will-unit ... -out-tanks

That's specific too the Javelin, and if you read it fully you'd see the issue isn't producing them for the field, it's replacing the stock pile.

I'm not sure why you're pushing this particular line here, but if you're looking for a Russian advantage you're gonna be hard pressed to actually find one.

But you see, the mighty Russian defense industry is ramping up to churn out scrap metal T-34s Armatas, while the West is just going to sit there with its thumb up its ass taking 32 months to make a Javelin...

[Romanic Imperium]

That's specific too the Javelin, and if you read it fully you'd see the issue isn't producing them for the field, it's replacing the stock pile.

I'm not sure why you're pushing this particular line here, but if you're looking for a Russian advantage you're gonna be hard pressed to actually find one.

But you see, the mighty Russian defense industry is ramping up to churn out scrap metal T-34s Armatas, while the West is just going to sit there with its thumb up its ass taking 32 months to make a Javelin...

That's only a Javelin though. Making smaller munitions is much quicker than making full blown missiles

[Arengin Union]

Is this guy using Google translate…

And no, Russia has no highly advanced military vehicles, their all:
1. Crap
2. Broken down
3. Were destroyed
4. Not enough

I mean there is the BMPT Terminator. Its probably the one of best armored fighting vehicle the Russians have on paper, a "double M2-Bradley". Its potential is severely limited because the Russian doctrine sucks, its a glass canon, and some design flaws on its turrent. But its concept makes the Russians seem somewhat competent.

From some videos I've seen it excels at defensive use, kind of like q giant anti infantry anti vehicle turret but offensively it's as vulnerable if not more so than any Russian tank.

[Romanic Imperium]

I mean there is the BMPT Terminator. Its probably the one of best armored fighting vehicle the Russians have on paper, a "double M2-Bradley". Its potential is severely limited because the Russian doctrine sucks, its a glass canon, and some design flaws on its turrent. But its concept makes the Russians seem somewhat competent.

From some videos I've seen it excels at defensive use, kind of like q giant anti infantry anti vehicle turret but offensively it's as vulnerable if not more so than any Russian tank.

And just how often is Russia playing defensively

[Hurtful Thoughts]

The guns on BMPT were prone to breaking under even the lightest artillery barrage.

That pun is terrible. Well done.

It would've been more fun if Putin and Zelensky just sat down and decided this with a World War Pun to end all wars.

Instead, we shall send more puns, the true arsenal of democracy.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

From some videos I've seen it excels at defensive use, kind of like q giant anti infantry anti vehicle turret but offensively it's as vulnerable if not more so than any Russian tank.

And just how often is Russia playing defensively

About as often as a child is not trying to choke itself with plastic.

[United Russian Federal Republic]

Oh! A new thread for the conflict.

[Jeriga]

Conventional warfare

Because that's worked out so well for him. I suspect that he's drifting closer and closer to more drastic measures. Probably not nuclear, at least not yet. But chemical, biological warfare...maybe thermobaric weapons, none of that is outside the realm of the plausible in the least.

Good luck to him if he does that.

[Jeriga]

Oh! A new thread for the conflict.

Was wondering when the Russian propoganda would put out enough new crap for you to return.

[Picairn]

Wagner likely captured Blahodatne, north of Bakhmut based on visual evidence.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Oh! A new thread for the conflict.

Oh excellent. The Christian Fascist strikes again.

[Great Britain eke Northern Ireland]

Wagner likely captured Blahodatne, north of Bakhmut based on visual evidence.

It’s crazy to think how many men they’ve sacrificed for Bakhmut. It’s morbidly funny considering how useless it is strategically.

[Free Stalliongrad]

That's specific too the Javelin, and if you read it fully you'd see the issue isn't producing them for the field, it's replacing the stock pile.

I'm not sure why you're pushing this particular line here, but if you're looking for a Russian advantage you're gonna be hard pressed to actually find one.

But you see, the mighty Russian defense industry is ramping up to churn out scrap metal T-34s Armatas, while the West is just going to sit there with its thumb up its ass taking 32 months to make a Javelin...

B-but the Russians have Chinese semiconductors now...

[United Russian Federal Republic]

Wagner likely captured Blahodatne, north of Bakhmut based on visual evidence.

The real men!

Oh! A new thread for the conflict.

Oh excellent. The Christian Fascist strikes again.

Stop calling me “fascist”. It’s slander.

I am a Christian, not a fascist.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Wagner likely captured Blahodatne, north of Bakhmut based on visual evidence.

The real men!

The actual nazis with the actual waffen-ss tattoos are "real men"? Are you ok?

[Great Britain eke Northern Ireland]

The real men!

The actual nazis with the actual waffen-ss tattoos are "real men"? Are you ok?

His signature tells you all you need to know.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

Wagner likely captured Blahodatne, north of Bakhmut based on visual evidence.

The real men!

Oh excellent. The Christian Fascist strikes again.

Stop calling me “fascist”. It’s slander.

I am a Christian, not a fascist.

*supports Putin
*supports war in Ukraine
*supports “strong government”
*is Christian
*believes convicted criminals with SS tattoos are “real men” “fighting Nazis”
Hmmm…
Remember, truth is an absolute defence to the charge of slander.

[United Russian Federal Republic]

The real men!

The actual nazis with the actual waffen-ss tattoos are "real men"? Are you ok?

You don’t care about the Ukrainian Nazis. You deny their existence.

The actual nazis with the actual waffen-ss tattoos are "real men"? Are you ok?

His signature tells you all you need to know.

It tells you that I’m patriotic.

[Raskana]

The actual nazis with the actual waffen-ss tattoos are "real men"? Are you ok?

You don’t care about the Ukrainian Nazis. You deny their existence.

His signature tells you all you need to know.

It tells you that I’m patriotic.

It tells me you are believe to be an Orthodox Christian, a Communist AND a big a fan of Zorro.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

The actual nazis with the actual waffen-ss tattoos are "real men"? Are you ok?

You don’t care about the Ukrainian Nazis. You deny their existence.

His signature tells you all you need to know.

It tells you that I’m patriotic.

Ukrainian Nazis did exist. Yes, they did. The Asov Battalion. And the (Jewish-led) government was cracking down on them.

And your shitty, shitty nation successfully gave them a reason to exist as the lesser of two evils. Pat yourself on the back. Besides, “nazis are fine, if they fight nazis” is:
1. Bullshit
2. Wrong

[United Russian Federal Republic]

You don’t care about the Ukrainian Nazis. You deny their existence.


It tells you that I’m patriotic.

It tells me you are believe to be an Orthodox Christian, a Communist AND a big a fan of Zorro.

Zorro!

He should be one of the Mascots of the SMO.