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Postby Fractalnavel » Tue May 09, 2023 8:19 am

Benefit of the doubt: maybe it was a historical reenactment parade - ? Theme music: "the way we were".

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue May 09, 2023 8:27 am

Perhaps Ukraine could have donated some of Russia’s tanks back for the parade.

Then they could be involuntarily returned on the battlefield.
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Postby The Merry-Men » Tue May 09, 2023 8:29 am

Fractalnavel wrote:Benefit of the doubt: maybe it was a historical reenactment parade - ? Theme music: "the way we were".

Even if it was a historical reenactment parade, it's an awfully lacking one.

By that logic, it'd make sense for an American Revolution parade to be just 10 dudes in uniforms on both sides, with General Washington wielding a foam cosplay variation of King Bradley's sword in place of a sabre while riding on a donkey.

How patriotic can that make you?

Stellar Colonies wrote:Perhaps Ukraine could have donated some of Russia’s tanks back for the parade.

Then they could be involuntarily returned on the battlefield.

I dunno, it's going to take some time for all those tractors to tow back the broken down, deserted tanks nobody's bothering to repair.
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Postby El Lazaro » Tue May 09, 2023 10:23 am

List of countries with stronger tank fleets than Russia (accurate list/non-exhaustive):
1. USA 8)
2. PRC
3. Ukraine
In no particular order:
- India
- Pakistan
- Iran
- Prob North Korea at this point
- Turkey
- Israel
- Egypt
- Syria
- Taiwan
- South Korea
- Most insurgents
- Your neighbor
- Average American public school
- That ISIS fighter from the shopping cart technical meme
- Eastasia
- Tropico
- Molvanîa
- Greater Finland
- Aztlan
- San Escobar
- Romanian Empire
- Chad during Toyota War
- France during WW2
- Hungary during the Revolution of 1848
- Germany during the Russian invasion of Ukraine
- Mongolia (all years 1206-present)

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue May 09, 2023 10:39 am

El Lazaro wrote:List of countries with stronger tank fleets than Russia (accurate list/non-exhaustive):
- Hungary during the Revolution of 1848

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Postby Holy Marsh » Tue May 09, 2023 11:33 am

What a truly pathetic display by the increasingly pathetic Russian government.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 09, 2023 11:35 am

The singular thing I miss about the Trump admin, is that he would've scheduled a parade for today, and trotted out every top of the line thing he could just to piss in Putin's Cheerios.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 09, 2023 11:42 am

Tarsonis wrote:The singular thing I miss about the Trump admin, is that he would've scheduled a parade for today, and trotted out every top of the line thing he could just to piss in Putin's Cheerios.

If Trump was President he'd have visited Moscow to congratulate Putin on the biggest military parade in history and got on RT to complain that the Democrats won't let him have a big parade.

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Postby Continental Free States » Tue May 09, 2023 11:56 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:The singular thing I miss about the Trump admin, is that he would've scheduled a parade for today, and trotted out every top of the line thing he could just to piss in Putin's Cheerios.

If Trump was President he'd have visited Moscow to congratulate Putin on the biggest military parade in history and got on RT to complain that the Democrats won't let him have a big parade.

It's fair to ask whether Russia would be faring this badly in Ukraine with Trump as the American President, but assuming it had, Trump would totally kick him while he was down, he's exactly that kind of person tbh.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 09, 2023 12:00 pm

Continental Free States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If Trump was President he'd have visited Moscow to congratulate Putin on the biggest military parade in history and got on RT to complain that the Democrats won't let him have a big parade.

It's fair to ask whether Russia would be faring this badly in Ukraine with Trump as the American President, but assuming it had, Trump would totally kick him while he was down, he's exactly that kind of person tbh.

Trump certainly has no loyalty to anyone, there is that.

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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 09, 2023 12:00 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:The singular thing I miss about the Trump admin, is that he would've scheduled a parade for today, and trotted out every top of the line thing he could just to piss in Putin's Cheerios.

If Trump was President he'd have visited Moscow to congratulate Putin on the biggest military parade in history and got on RT to complain that the Democrats won't let him have a big parade.


Yeahhh probably, but let's imagine trump didn't simp for dictators for half a second
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Tue May 09, 2023 12:07 pm


With Putin we can't be sure if this is:
- Deception pure and simple
- A move to take the public into a new phase of the war through a sobering take on the reality of war costs
- A genuine worry about security of the parade (now if that's the case, what the hell does that mean!?)
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Postby Ventura Bay » Tue May 09, 2023 12:45 pm

Continental Free States wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If Trump was President he'd have visited Moscow to congratulate Putin on the biggest military parade in history and got on RT to complain that the Democrats won't let him have a big parade.

It's fair to ask whether Russia would be faring this badly in Ukraine with Trump as the American President, but assuming it had, Trump would totally kick him while he was down, he's exactly that kind of person tbh.

It's pretty obvious that Russia wouldn't have done this if Trump were still in power.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 09, 2023 12:49 pm

Ventura Bay wrote:
Continental Free States wrote:It's fair to ask whether Russia would be faring this badly in Ukraine with Trump as the American President, but assuming it had, Trump would totally kick him while he was down, he's exactly that kind of person tbh.

It's pretty obvious that Russia wouldn't have done this if Trump were still in power.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump praised the genius of Putin's actions.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue May 09, 2023 12:50 pm

Ventura Bay wrote:
Continental Free States wrote:It's fair to ask whether Russia would be faring this badly in Ukraine with Trump as the American President, but assuming it had, Trump would totally kick him while he was down, he's exactly that kind of person tbh.

It's pretty obvious that Russia wouldn't have done this if Trump were still in power.

On what basis? djt's limp and withered one ball?

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Postby Ventura Bay » Tue May 09, 2023 12:54 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:It's pretty obvious that Russia wouldn't have done this if Trump were still in power.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump praised the genius of Putin's actions.

Yes? Why wouldn't he? He wasn't President, so it wasn't as if the invasion occurred on his watch.

If he were President, do you really think his superiority complex would've allowed him to stand by as Russia invaded Ukraine? No.

Russia knew this, and would not have done it if Trump was in power.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue May 09, 2023 12:58 pm

Ventura Bay wrote:
Ifreann wrote:When Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump praised the genius of Putin's actions.

Yes? Why wouldn't he? He wasn't President, so it wasn't as if the invasion occurred on his watch.

If he were President, do you really think his superiority complex would've allowed him to stand by as Russia invaded Ukraine? No.

Russia knew this, and would not have done it if Trump was in power.

Stand by? No, definitely not. We'd just be sending tanks to the other side.

The only reason the invasion does not happen if Trump is in power is if Vladdy P is too busy getting the sloppy jaloppy from him.
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Postby Ventura Bay » Tue May 09, 2023 1:00 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:Yes? Why wouldn't he? He wasn't President, so it wasn't as if the invasion occurred on his watch.

If he were President, do you really think his superiority complex would've allowed him to stand by as Russia invaded Ukraine? No.

Russia knew this, and would not have done it if Trump was in power.

Stand by? No, definitely not. We'd just be sending tanks to the other side.

The only reason the invasion does not happen if Trump is in power is if Vladdy P is to busy getting the sloppy jaloppy from him.

You really think that Trump would be sending military aid to Russia...?
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue May 09, 2023 1:02 pm

Ventura Bay wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Stand by? No, definitely not. We'd just be sending tanks to the other side.

The only reason the invasion does not happen if Trump is in power is if Vladdy P is to busy getting the sloppy jaloppy from him.

You really think that Trump would be sending military aid to Russia...?

Pretty much his entire outlook on Russia was wanting Vlad-senpai to notice him, so, yes. Obviously.
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Postby Continental Free States » Tue May 09, 2023 1:20 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Ventura Bay wrote:It's pretty obvious that Russia wouldn't have done this if Trump were still in power.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump praised the genius of Putin's actions.

To be fair he changed his tone around Bucha. I mean most people did, but for Trump it was a bit odd imo. With that in mind yeah there's no way Trump would let Europe support Ukraine militarily or economically, much less support the Ukrainians himself.
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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Tue May 09, 2023 1:21 pm

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Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:Fascists are fascists. They're bad regardless of who they fight for or who they believe in. "Reasons" don't matter when the result is Nazis.

The topic is the Russian invasion of Ukraine, not your own personal shortcomings.

The topic we were discussing was the Azov batallion, which is very much related and connected to the topic. Again, continue to make up boogeymen in your head.
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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Tue May 09, 2023 1:22 pm

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Forty-Two.

Dude thinks that Ukraine is preordained to become a vassal-state of one sort or another regardless of the outcome.

Because every alliance is a form of serfdom, obviously.

Even though if Ukraine joined NATO, they'd be the top third largest military in the alliance.

With a military like that, you can even tell your allies to get off your lawn.

As for Russia... has anyone else noticed that the Baikal mainline is under new management?

Ukraine is the third largest military in the alliance... and tell me, who is the second and first largest?
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Postby Ifreann » Tue May 09, 2023 1:42 pm

Ventura Bay wrote:
Ifreann wrote:When Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump praised the genius of Putin's actions.

Yes? Why wouldn't he? He wasn't President, so it wasn't as if the invasion occurred on his watch.

If he were President, do you really think his superiority complex would've allowed him to stand by as Russia invaded Ukraine? No.

Russia knew this, and would not have done it if Trump was in power.

If he were President he would have said the same thing.

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Postby Bradfordville » Tue May 09, 2023 2:28 pm

Ventura Bay wrote:
Ifreann wrote:When Russia invaded Ukraine, Trump praised the genius of Putin's actions.

Yes? Why wouldn't he? He wasn't President, so it wasn't as if the invasion occurred on his watch.

If he were President, do you really think his superiority complex would've allowed him to stand by as Russia invaded Ukraine? No.

Russia knew this, and would not have done it if Trump was in power.


And what would trump do differently than the current president which would prevent an invasion? Biden has probably been doing virtually as much as a US president could do to help Ukraine without causing world war III.
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