The Ukrainian War V: Tanks For The Memories

[Washington Resistance Army]

Even if we go solely by impartial, visual-only sources, Russian losses are still staggeringly high. Especially in terms of vehicles, they've thrown away a shocking amount of hardware. They could give up the war today and it'd still take 20 years to rebuild the Russian Army.

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

I wouldn't call their air force a paper tiger but it's clearly not world class either. Obviously any nation is going to struggle to match the US in terms of airpower, but even still their air force has not been terribly effective or even present in this war a lot of the time.

[Jellian Federation]

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

I wouldn't call their air force a paper tiger but it's clearly not world class either. Obviously any nation is going to struggle to match the US in terms of airpower, but even still their air force has not been terribly effective or even present in this war a lot of the time.

That may be precisely because they are saving it for a larger fight.

[Australian rePublic]

The Ukrainian heros fighting for their country and their freedom are absolute heros, and the Russians who see the futility of this war and are putting in a half-arsed effort because of it are bloody legends. If more people refused to fight for despots, the world would be a better place

[Australian rePublic]

Even if we go solely by impartial, visual-only sources, Russian losses are still staggeringly high. Especially in terms of vehicles, they've thrown away a shocking amount of hardware. They could give up the war today and it'd still take 20 years to rebuild the Russian Army.

Russia, China and Iran would be a pretty weak, begrudging alliance, but stil
The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

China, Russia and Iran would only begrungingly be allies and it would be a pretty weak alliance. But still terrifying nonetheless. I don't think Russia will be starting a world war any time soon. Considering that they haven't taken Kyiv, I doubt we'll see Russian tanks down the streets of Paris or London or Athens any time soon

[Picairn]

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

I'm rather skeptical, because Ukrainian AD systems are basically forcing the VKS to launch missiles from Russian airspace. If Buks and S-300s are making them avoid Ukraine at a wide berth like that then they might not fare well against fleets of NATO aircrafts.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

I'm rather skeptical, because Ukrainian AD systems are basically forcing the VKS to launch missiles from Russian airspace. If Buks and S-300s are making them avoid Ukraine at a wide berth like that then they might not fare well against fleets of NATO aircrafts.

Also where my mind is at. If they're this scared to dance with aging Soviet systems, how are they going to act when F-22s and F-35s are prowling about?

[Jellian Federation]

Russia, China and Iran would be a pretty weak, begrudging alliance, but stil
The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

China, Russia and Iran would only begrungingly be allies and it would be a pretty weak alliance. But still terrifying nonetheless. I don't think Russia will be starting a world war any time soon. Considering that they haven't taken Kyiv, I doubt we'll see Russian tanks down the streets of Paris or London or Athens any time soon

I'm rather skeptical, because Ukrainian AD systems are basically forcing the VKS to launch missiles from Russian airspace. If Buks and S-300s are making them avoid Ukraine at a wide berth like that then they might not fare well against fleets of NATO aircrafts.

Also where my mind is at. If they're this scared to dance with aging Soviet systems, how are they going to act when F-22s and F-35s are prowling about?

I figured it could take up resources that would otherwise be used against China but yeah it’s kind of a stretch.
I can’t think of a use other than that besides simply waiting out Ukrainian air defenses.

[Oceasia]

Prigozhin says that he was promised to receive “all needed ammunition”

As expected, Wagner probably won't withdraw from Bakhmut anytime soon.

[Relikai]

Even if we go solely by impartial, visual-only sources, Russian losses are still staggeringly high. Especially in terms of vehicles, they've thrown away a shocking amount of hardware. They could give up the war today and it'd still take 20 years to rebuild the Russian Army.

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

Apart from the main aggressor which is Russia in the European continent the main threat to the wider world is the US and their eurocentric cronies shoving their dicks in where it's not wanted and raping smaller nations into being puppets under their enforced sphere of influence.

[Picairn]

Prigozhin does a 180 and says an agreement has been reached with the MoD on ammunition supplies.

So, all that retreat announcement was just theater?

[Raskana]

Prigozhin does a 180 and says an agreement has been reached with the MoD on ammunition supplies.

So, all that retreat announcement was just theater?

Maybe, it was either a ploy, meant to lul the defenders into a fall sense of security.

Or it was real, and the leadership of Wagner is trying to seize more political prestige and influence but ''getting their way'' with the defense ministry.

Neither is good, though I have no doubt it will prove to be futile in the big picture.

[Northern Seleucia]

Prigozhin does a 180 and says an agreement has been reached with the MoD on ammunition supplies.

So, all that retreat announcement was just theater?

Willing to bet they still won't receive adequate ammo.

[Dakran]

Prigozhin does a 180 and says an agreement has been reached with the MoD on ammunition supplies.

So, all that retreat announcement was just theater?

Willing to bet they still won't receive adequate ammo.

With whats been displayed so far by Russian logistics, I'd be surprised if their emails arrived on time

[Northern Seleucia]

Willing to bet they still won't receive adequate ammo.

With whats been displayed so far by Russian logistics, I'd be surprised if their emails arrived on time

Emails were sold to civilian in exchange for vodka and cigarettes, sorry.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Even if we go solely by impartial, visual-only sources, Russian losses are still staggeringly high. Especially in terms of vehicles, they've thrown away a shocking amount of hardware. They could give up the war today and it'd still take 20 years to rebuild the Russian Army.

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.

Nah, their tactical aviation is also depleted because they kept sending planes and helicopters to airfields within artillery range and just left them there for months.

The only thing left is their strategic and maritime aviation, even their air-transport got shot to pieces during Hostomel.

Meaning they have bombers, but no escorts, and a limited stockpile of air-launched cruise-missiles. Meaning the limit of the bulk of their ability is just carpet-bombing ISIS or launching cruise-missiles from across two national borders away (and from there, to either cannibalize their nuclear deterrence, or to go with the nuclear option).

[Dakran]

With whats been displayed so far by Russian logistics, I'd be surprised if their emails arrived on time

Emails were sold to civilian in exchange for vodka and cigarettes, sorry.

Well. In the words of that one Russian kid I was in a CS:GO match with once upon a time, "idiot team"

[Adamede]

Prigozhin does a 180 and says an agreement has been reached with the MoD on ammunition supplies.

So, all that retreat announcement was just theater?

Probably to force the MODs hand and give him ammo.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Prigozhin does a 180 and says an agreement has been reached with the MoD on ammunition supplies.

So, all that retreat announcement was just theater?

Probably to force the MODs hand and give him ammo.

It's not like he has achieved anything of value in half a year with his Strafbat brigades, even with ammo.

[Adamede]

Probably to force the MODs hand and give him ammo.

It's not like he has achieved anything of value in half a year with his Strafbat brigades, even with ammo.

No, but neither has the Russian army.

Frankly Wagner is probably the best units that Russia has right now.

[Continental Free States]

Probably to force the MODs hand and give him ammo.

It's not like he has achieved anything of value in half a year with his Strafbat brigades, even with ammo.

The Russian government probably prefers the StrafBats to be shoved into the meatgrinder than its more regular forces, which it probably assumes it'll need in case of an Ukrainian counteroffensive.

[Farnhamia]

You are so confident. Although, perhaps, Ukrainian propaganda and purges did their job.
Ah, if only they intervened in 2014...


I have no evidence for the parties.
However, I have memories that the Russian side SENT UKRAINIAN GUN AIMERS (or what do they call in English those who give coordinates for the bombing?) TO THE LAND CONTROLLED BY KIEV. This is what SS-level terror looks like, I guess.

The Republics of Donbass cannot be worse than Russia in the 90s and Ukraine (there this era seems to have lasted longer).

Oh get fucked. The Ukrainian people were massing in crowds waving Ukrainian flags when Kherson was liberated. Stop huffing copium and accept Ukrainians do not want to be ruled over by your jack booted thugs.

*** Warned for flaming ***

[The Pirateariat]

It's not like he has achieved anything of value in half a year with his Strafbat brigades, even with ammo.

No, but neither has the Russian army.

Frankly Wagner is probably the best units that Russia has right now.

They've certainly got the most combat experience. I just wonder how many of those soldiers are still alive to remember any of it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

No, but neither has the Russian army.

Frankly Wagner is probably the best units that Russia has right now.

They've certainly got the most combat experience. I just wonder how many of those soldiers are still alive to remember any of it.

they're just going home to terrorise, rape and murder in their home towns instead.

[The Pirateariat]

They've certainly got the most combat experience. I just wonder how many of those soldiers are still alive to remember any of it.

they're just going home to terrorise, rape and murder in their home towns instead.

At this point, Russia's national motto should be, "but wait, it gets worse."

[Jellian Federation]

they're just going home to terrorise, rape and murder in their home towns instead.

At this point, Russia's national motto should be, "but wait, it gets worse."

But wait, act now and get three times the suffering for the price of two.
That’s right, three times the suffering, call now!