The Ukrainian War V: Tanks For The Memories

[Russian SPD]

Oh Kherson if intergrated will be no different than Russia? That nice. Except you know, Kherson. Does. Not. Want. To. Be. Part. Of. Russia.

You are so confident. Although, perhaps, Ukrainian propaganda and purges did their job.
Ah, if only they intervened in 2014...

Yet they are still mafia states with little, if any, changes since the fake annexation. If these little republics are a model for the rest of Donbass then the only thing waiting for Ukrainians is terror.

I have no evidence for the parties.
However, I have memories that the Russian side SENT UKRAINIAN GUN AIMERS (or what do they call in English those who give coordinates for the bombing?) TO THE LAND CONTROLLED BY KIEV. This is what SS-level terror looks like, I guess.

The Republics of Donbass cannot be worse than Russia in the 90s and Ukraine (there this era seems to have lasted longer).

[Gravlen]

Oh Kherson if intergrated will be no different than Russia? That nice. Except you know, Kherson. Does. Not. Want. To. Be. Part. Of. Russia.

You are so confident. Although, perhaps, Ukrainian propaganda and purges did their job.
Ah, if only they intervened in 2014...

Yet they are still mafia states with little, if any, changes since the fake annexation. If these little republics are a model for the rest of Donbass then the only thing waiting for Ukrainians is terror.

I have no evidence for the parties.
However, I have memories that the Russian side SENT UKRAINIAN GUN AIMERS (or what do they call in English those who give coordinates for the bombing?) TO THE LAND CONTROLLED BY KIEV. This is what SS-level terror looks like, I guess.

This is what SS-level terror looks like.

[Andsed]

Oh Kherson if intergrated will be no different than Russia? That nice. Except you know, Kherson. Does. Not. Want. To. Be. Part. Of. Russia.

You are so confident. Although, perhaps, Ukrainian propaganda and purges did their job.
Ah, if only they intervened in 2014...

Yet they are still mafia states with little, if any, changes since the fake annexation. If these little republics are a model for the rest of Donbass then the only thing waiting for Ukrainians is terror.

I have no evidence for the parties.
However, I have memories that the Russian side SENT UKRAINIAN GUN AIMERS (or what do they call in English those who give coordinates for the bombing?) TO THE LAND CONTROLLED BY KIEV. This is what SS-level terror looks like, I guess.

The Republics of Donbass cannot be worse than Russia in the 90s and Ukraine (there this era seems to have lasted longer).

Oh get fucked. The Ukrainian people were massing in crowds waving Ukrainian flags when Kherson was liberated. Stop huffing copium and accept Ukrainians do not want to be ruled over by your jack booted thugs.

[Russian SPD]

Oh get fucked. The Ukrainian people were massing in crowds waving Ukrainian flags when Kherson was liberated.

After all
1. "Ugly collaborators" clearly did not want to leave the city, but wanted to remain at the mercy of the Ukrainian side
2. The Ukrainian side never, never, never makes performances, they are bright democratic gnomes

[Andsed]

Oh get fucked. The Ukrainian people were massing in crowds waving Ukrainian flags when Kherson was liberated.

After all
1. "Ugly collaborators" clearly did not want to leave the city, but wanted to remain at the mercy of the Ukrainian side
2. The Ukrainian side never, never, never makes performances, they are bright democratic gnomes

Keep coping buddy it does not change the fact that Ukrainians don’t want to live under Russia. They have made that very clear with how fierce their resistance has been.

[Oceasia]

Oh get fucked. The Ukrainian people were massing in crowds waving Ukrainian flags when Kherson was liberated.

After all
1. "Ugly collaborators" clearly did not want to leave the city, but wanted to remain at the mercy of the Ukrainian side
2. The Ukrainian side never, never, never makes performances, they are bright democratic gnomes

It would be extremely difficult to fake an entire city celebrating the arrival of your armed forces. The simple explanation is that Ukrainians want to be part of Ukraine.

[Andsed]

After all
1. "Ugly collaborators" clearly did not want to leave the city, but wanted to remain at the mercy of the Ukrainian side
2. The Ukrainian side never, never, never makes performances, they are bright democratic gnomes

It would be extremely difficult to fake an entire city celebrating the arrival of your armed forces. The simple explanation is that Ukrainians want to be part of Ukraine.

Notably I don’t recall any images of occupied cites gathering celebrating with Russian flags. Wonder where those collaborators were?

[Russian SPD]

It would be extremely difficult to fake an entire city celebrating the arrival of your armed forces. The simple explanation is that Ukrainians want to be part of Ukraine.

There was no rigidly authoritative analysis and is unlikely to be, everyone sees what they want to see.

By the way, about the terrorism of the Kremlin.

Supporters of Ukraine blew up 3 pro-Russian, so to say, influencers (Attempt on Dugin, murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, attempt on Prilepin). The Russians didn't kill either Gordon or Shariy or Arestovich, they didn't kill anyone like that.
Soviet secret services blew up some Ukrainian nationalists right in Germany, so the Russians would certainly have could find Shariy in Barcelona.
And today, figures of "art" are returning to Russia, who condemned both the war, and Russia, and the people of Russia, in fact, and they are WELCOMED by the state. For example, Recently, Peskov kissed the hand of Pugachova, who condemned the Russian Federation and left for Israel.

Literally a fascist dictatorship, all those who disagree are hanged in Siberia. I guess...

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

It would be extremely difficult to fake an entire city celebrating the arrival of your armed forces. The simple explanation is that Ukrainians want to be part of Ukraine.

There was no rigidly authoritative analysis and is unlikely to be, everyone sees what they want to see.

By the way, about the terrorism of the Kremlin.

Supporters of Ukraine blew up 3 pro-Russian, so to say, influencers (Attempt on Dugin, murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, attempt on Prilepin). The Russians didn't kill either Gordon or Shariy or Arestovich, they didn't kill anyone like that.
Soviet secret services blew up some Ukrainian nationalists right in Germany, so the Russians would certainly have could find Shariy in Barcelona.
And today, figures of "art" are returning to Russia, who condemned both the war, and Russia, and the people of Russia, in fact, and they are WELCOMED by the state. For example, Recently, Peskov kissed the hand of Pugachova, who condemned the Russian Federation and left for Israel.

Literally a fascist dictatorship, all those who disagree are hanged in Siberia. I guess...

Ah, so we aren't going to talk about Navalny et al.? Or the deadly windows?

[Dakran]

There was no rigidly authoritative analysis and is unlikely to be, everyone sees what they want to see.

By the way, about the terrorism of the Kremlin.

Supporters of Ukraine blew up 3 pro-Russian, so to say, influencers (Attempt on Dugin, murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, attempt on Prilepin). The Russians didn't kill either Gordon or Shariy or Arestovich, they didn't kill anyone like that.
Soviet secret services blew up some Ukrainian nationalists right in Germany, so the Russians would certainly have could find Shariy in Barcelona.
And today, figures of "art" are returning to Russia, who condemned both the war, and Russia, and the people of Russia, in fact, and they are WELCOMED by the state. For example, Recently, Peskov kissed the hand of Pugachova, who condemned the Russian Federation and left for Israel.

Literally a fascist dictatorship, all those who disagree are hanged in Siberia. I guess...

Ah, so we aren't going to talk about Navalny et al.? Or the deadly windows?

Prague learned the hard way that windows were malicious in nature.

And on the subject of Kadyrov... I'd direct quote but I'm on my phone at work and navigating is painful but...
Weren't Kadyrovs goons getting their asses handed to them earlier in the war? Follow up, wasn't he getting butthurt that people were making fun of him online, and threatened to have them murdered? Or did I hallucinate that?

[Empire of Donner land]

There was no rigidly authoritative analysis and is unlikely to be, everyone sees what they want to see.

By the way, about the terrorism of the Kremlin.

Supporters of Ukraine blew up 3 pro-Russian, so to say, influencers (Attempt on Dugin, murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, attempt on Prilepin). The Russians didn't kill either Gordon or Shariy or Arestovich, they didn't kill anyone like that.
Soviet secret services blew up some Ukrainian nationalists right in Germany, so the Russians would certainly have could find Shariy in Barcelona.
And today, figures of "art" are returning to Russia, who condemned both the war, and Russia, and the people of Russia, in fact, and they are WELCOMED by the state. For example, Recently, Peskov kissed the hand of Pugachova, who condemned the Russian Federation and left for Israel.

Literally a fascist dictatorship, all those who disagree are hanged in Siberia. I guess...

Ah, so we aren't going to talk about Navalny et al.? Or the deadly windows?

It doesn't matter to them, they are blinded by political fervor or they're just trolling in an effort to get as many responses from us as possible. They'll get bored and then come back with another account named "The Russian Orthodox Empire" or some such nonsense if that's the case. A child getting smacked by a Russian cruise missile for no other reason than existing because the Russian MOD just "doesn't care" about Ukrainian civilian losses was literally called a conscript by him for Christ's sake.

There is nothing interesting to get out of debate or conversation with SPD, they will stonewall everything and present arguments from their world where Russia itself somehow isn't a Nationalist hell controlled by oligarchs, or they'll just ignore it. They are no different than the dozen other people on this thread defending Russia's narrative and actions which were either banned or timed out for trolling/flaming.

Worst case scenario, and I do think this is the worst, they're actually deluded and believe the pasta strainer story that is Russia's narrative on the war. In which case there still is no point in talking to them. They've solidified their beliefs. When the war is over in a Ukrainian victory, or if Ukraine loses but Russia suffers a possible collapse either way: let him try to put the pieces back together on how his worldview collapsed.

They don't know how this war is fought, and they don't know anything about the politics of this war other than what they choose to read or believe. They're a dummy produced by the Propaganda that Russia has seeded and watered for nearly a decade which regurgitates state media "facts", misinformation, and disinformation, not a person you can debate with.

[Tarsonis]

Y'all are wasting your time arguing with with the sycophants. He'll have to deal with reality of Ukrainian sovereignty in due time.

[Adamede]

This just in... Russia is apparently in the process of as we speak committing a massive war crime by indiscriminately bombing all off Bakhmut with white phosphorous munitions of every size, shape, and form at it's disposal in an attempt to literally wipe the city from the face of the earth via literal scorched earth tactics.

They say those bombs are magnesium, not phosphorus.

Do they tell you how large of a copium dose you're administered, or does only the commissar need to know?

I don't have to cope with anything psychologically difficult now.
My copium looks different.

Ukrainian and Russian aren’t even the same language.

And even ignoring that Austria has Jo right to Bavaria, just like Russia has no right to Ukraine.

[Adamede]

Bullshit, Russia has brought to Ukraine nothing but destruction and terror. The little republics of the Donbass are essentially mafia states, and there are horrid reports of Russian cleansing operations in occupied territories.

Man, there was a war going on for 8 years.
Crimea, which was not shot at, received federal subsidies, as did the Caucasus.
The Russian Federation, if successful, integrates these entities on a common basis, and Kherson will not differ much from Astrakhan.

Because it's a fine opportunity for them to indirectly weaken Russia and earn themselves a new ally in Ukraine. But even if Russia totally conquers Ukraine and kills every man, woman, and child there, NATO will not be any weaker than before the war. In fact they will be stronger.

And yet, let them be expelled from Ukraine.
At a minimum, they will not have 30,000,000 people and a direct border with the Russian core, and Russia itself will probably be a little more reasonable and will not stick to "respectable Western partners" as in 1987-2014.
In addition, let a number of ungodly movements in Eastern Europe suffer a strategic defeat.
Ultimately, the world will be more beautiful.

There’s a big difference between Kherson and Astrakhan. For one Kherson is not Russian, and does not wish to be Russian.

[Azov steel 2022]

Total Russian combat losses since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, according to the General Staff, as of the morning of May 6:

personnel - about 193,770 people (approximately +560 for the previous day);
tanks –3,717 (+7);
armored combat vehicles (AMVs) – 7,238 (+14);
artillery systems – 2992 (+14);
rocket launcher systems (RSZV) – 552 (+2);
air defense means – 306 (+2);
aircraft – 308 (+0);
helicopters – 294 (+0);
operational-tactical level drones – 2,554 (+14);
cruise missiles – 947 (+0);
boats/ships – 18 (+0);
automotive equipment and fuel tanks - 5936 (+20);
special equipment - 375 (+2).

[Picairn]

Total Russian combat losses since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, according to the General Staff, as of the morning of May 6:

personnel - about 193,770 people (approximately +560 for the previous day);
tanks –3,717 (+7);
armored combat vehicles (AMVs) – 7,238 (+14);
artillery systems – 2992 (+14);
rocket launcher systems (RSZV) – 552 (+2);
air defense means – 306 (+2);
aircraft – 308 (+0);
helicopters – 294 (+0);
operational-tactical level drones – 2,554 (+14);
cruise missiles – 947 (+0);
boats/ships – 18 (+0);
automotive equipment and fuel tanks - 5936 (+20);
special equipment - 375 (+2).

50+ years' worth of equipment burned through, numerous officers and experienced soldiers dead in a year. There's no way the Russians can rebuild their peacetime army anymore for decades.

[Archinstinct]

You are so confident. Although, perhaps, Ukrainian propaganda and purges did their job.
Ah, if only they intervened in 2014...


I have no evidence for the parties.
However, I have memories that the Russian side SENT UKRAINIAN GUN AIMERS (or what do they call in English those who give coordinates for the bombing?) TO THE LAND CONTROLLED BY KIEV. This is what SS-level terror looks like, I guess.

The Republics of Donbass cannot be worse than Russia in the 90s and Ukraine (there this era seems to have lasted longer).

Oh get fucked. The Ukrainian people were massing in crowds waving Ukrainian flags when Kherson was liberated. Stop huffing copium and accept Ukrainians do not want to be ruled over by your jack booted thugs.

Grabs the popcorn

Free entertainment is the best entertainment!

[Democratic Poopland]

Total Russian combat losses since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, according to the General Staff, as of the morning of May 6:

personnel - about 193,770 people (approximately +560 for the previous day);
tanks –3,717 (+7);
armored combat vehicles (AMVs) – 7,238 (+14);
artillery systems – 2992 (+14);
rocket launcher systems (RSZV) – 552 (+2);
air defense means – 306 (+2);
aircraft – 308 (+0);
helicopters – 294 (+0);
operational-tactical level drones – 2,554 (+14);
cruise missiles – 947 (+0);
boats/ships – 18 (+0);
automotive equipment and fuel tanks - 5936 (+20);
special equipment - 375 (+2).

50+ years' worth of equipment burned through, numerous officers and experienced soldiers dead in a year. There's no way the Russians can rebuild their peacetime army anymore for decades.

Not to mention that most of their equipment is weak, outdated and/or malfunctioning. If your tanks are stolen by tractors at the very beginning of a war, you have some serious problems to deal with quickly.

[Adamede]

Total Russian combat losses since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, according to the General Staff, as of the morning of May 6:

personnel - about 193,770 people (approximately +560 for the previous day);
tanks –3,717 (+7);
armored combat vehicles (AMVs) – 7,238 (+14);
artillery systems – 2992 (+14);
rocket launcher systems (RSZV) – 552 (+2);
air defense means – 306 (+2);
aircraft – 308 (+0);
helicopters – 294 (+0);
operational-tactical level drones – 2,554 (+14);
cruise missiles – 947 (+0);
boats/ships – 18 (+0);
automotive equipment and fuel tanks - 5936 (+20);
special equipment - 375 (+2).

50+ years' worth of equipment burned through, numerous officers and experienced soldiers dead in a year. There's no way the Russians can rebuild their peacetime army anymore for decades.

End with Russia’s economic and demographic trends I don’t ever see them recovering from this.

[Jellian Federation]

It would be extremely difficult to fake an entire city celebrating the arrival of your armed forces. The simple explanation is that Ukrainians want to be part of Ukraine.

There was no rigidly authoritative analysis and is unlikely to be, everyone sees what they want to see.

By the way, about the terrorism of the Kremlin.

Supporters of Ukraine blew up 3 pro-Russian, so to say, influencers (Attempt on Dugin, murder of Vladlen Tatarsky, attempt on Prilepin). The Russians didn't kill either Gordon or Shariy or Arestovich, they didn't kill anyone like that.
Soviet secret services blew up some Ukrainian nationalists right in Germany, so the Russians would certainly have could find Shariy in Barcelona.
And today, figures of "art" are returning to Russia, who condemned both the war, and Russia, and the people of Russia, in fact, and they are WELCOMED by the state. For example, Recently, Peskov kissed the hand of Pugachova, who condemned the Russian Federation and left for Israel.

Literally a fascist dictatorship, all those who disagree are hanged in Siberia. I guess...

Russia sent kill squads to find and kill hundreds of people on some list. It’s standard practice for them, I think they did it in the previous wars also.
It takes guts to wave your countries flag in front of an occupiers face, why would these “fake” be motivated if they were “liberated” by the Russians.

Also, the biggest cognitive dissonance anyone supporting Russia like you are is that you forget the fact that Russia expected to win in 3 days, and launched the invasion after announcing Ukraine belongs to russia.
The stuff about Ukraine being “nazi” came later.

The real nazis are the Russians.

I remember one time on the news early in the war a Ukrainian talked about how easy it was to hit Russian artillery because while they were hitting the artillery, the Russian artillery was targeting city blocks instead of hitting back.

Russia has murdered, tortured, looted, and displaced millions. All because Putin has dreams of rebuilding the USSR.

[Ventura Bay]

Total Russian combat losses since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, according to the General Staff, as of the morning of May 6:

personnel - about 193,770 people (approximately +560 for the previous day);
tanks –3,717 (+7);
armored combat vehicles (AMVs) – 7,238 (+14);
artillery systems – 2992 (+14);
rocket launcher systems (RSZV) – 552 (+2);
air defense means – 306 (+2);
aircraft – 308 (+0);
helicopters – 294 (+0);
operational-tactical level drones – 2,554 (+14);
cruise missiles – 947 (+0);
boats/ships – 18 (+0);
automotive equipment and fuel tanks - 5936 (+20);
special equipment - 375 (+2).

Yeah, says Ukraine.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

meanwhile in real life
Ukraine war: 'Mad panic' as Russia evacuates town near Zaporizhzhia plant

[Washington Resistance Army]

meanwhile in real life
Ukraine war: 'Mad panic' as Russia evacuates town near Zaporizhzhia plant

If the Russians abandon Melitopol it's hard to see how they could keep fighting the war in any serious way. That's pretty much tantamount to surrender, I don't see what else they could do except seek some sort of peace at that point.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Total Russian combat losses since the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine, according to the General Staff, as of the morning of May 6:

personnel - about 193,770 people (approximately +560 for the previous day);
tanks –3,717 (+7);
armored combat vehicles (AMVs) – 7,238 (+14);
artillery systems – 2992 (+14);
rocket launcher systems (RSZV) – 552 (+2);
air defense means – 306 (+2);
aircraft – 308 (+0);
helicopters – 294 (+0);
operational-tactical level drones – 2,554 (+14);
cruise missiles – 947 (+0);
boats/ships – 18 (+0);
automotive equipment and fuel tanks - 5936 (+20);
special equipment - 375 (+2).

Yeah, says Ukraine.

Even if we go solely by impartial, visual-only sources, Russian losses are still staggeringly high. Especially in terms of vehicles, they've thrown away a shocking amount of hardware. They could give up the war today and it'd still take 20 years to rebuild the Russian Army.

[Jellian Federation]

Yeah, says Ukraine.

Even if we go solely by impartial, visual-only sources, Russian losses are still staggeringly high. Especially in terms of vehicles, they've thrown away a shocking amount of hardware. They could give up the war today and it'd still take 20 years to rebuild the Russian Army.

The Russian Air Force, if it’s not a paper tiger, is still mostly intact, and that would be the most dangers part about it.
So there is still threat to the wider world, for instance if world war three broke out and China Russia Iran were the axis, Russia would still bring considerable value to that.