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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:31 am

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The Two Jerseys wrote:But you see, the mighty Russian defense industry is ramping up to churn out scrap metal T-34s Armatas, while the West is just going to sit there with its thumb up its ass taking 32 months to make a Javelin...


That's only a Javelin though. Making smaller munitions is much quicker than making full blown missiles

And our Kremlin propagandist conveniently ignores how lead times also apply to Russian factories. They can't go from building one tank a week to a Model T assembly line overnight.
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Postby The Rio Grande River Basin » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:32 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi im just very interested in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"

It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

Azov have the emblem used by the SS, and you are not saying a word.

Yes, I said Azov is a group of shitty, shitty people, but your nation:

1. Gave them a reason
2. Made them the lesser of the two evils.

So how about you realise you are, in fact, supporting nazis?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:33 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi im just very interested in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"

It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

dude utkin their gangster boss is an unapologetic wehraboo who tattoos waffen-ss shit on his body
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:37 am

if "russianness" is defined by 1945 then utkin is a fucking national disgrace.
and this guy is the boss of wagner
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:38 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:if "russianness" is defined by 1945 then utkin is a fucking national disgrace.
and this guy is the boss of wagner

Putin could publicly say that Hitler was a great man and these people would still say that the war was to denazify Ukraine.
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Postby Picairn » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:41 am

Perikuresu wrote:Didn't Russia lose a shit ton of tanks in their Special Transport Operation in Kharkiv?

Thanks to Kharkiv Russia is still currently the biggest donor of tanks to Ukraine. :lol2:
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Postby Perikuresu » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:42 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:if "russianness" is defined by 1945 then utkin is a fucking national disgrace.
and this guy is the boss of wagner

Putin and his top officials have basically quoted Ivan Ilyin in their speeches and have praised him several times (to the extent of dragging his corpse and library back to Russia) and considering this guy's ideas on 'Russia is the nation of god who will unite the Orthodox world" and "Russian Innocence" it's surprising more people haven't talked about him.

But they do talk about SCOOBY DOOOOOOOgin
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Postby Picairn » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:44 am


*sniffs* From "remove Zelensky, denazify Ukraine" to "5km in 5 months is real progress guys" smh
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Postby Utquiagvik » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:39 am

United Russian Federal Republic wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi im just very interested in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"

It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

Azov have the emblem used by the SS, and you are not saying a word.

Can you stop calling it a “Special Military Operation” and just call it a war of aggression already?
And this war isn’t against nazis, Russia started this war to gain Ukrainian Territory and the population/economic benefits.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:40 am

Utquiagvik wrote:
United Russian Federal Republic wrote:It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

Azov have the emblem used by the SS, and you are not saying a word.

Can you stop calling it a “Special Military Operation” and just call it a war of aggression already?
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that shit is illegal in his country, on the pain of 10+ years in a gulag...
imagine that...
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Postby Utquiagvik » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:43 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:Can you stop calling it a “Special Military Operation” and just call it a war of aggression already?
...

that shit is illegal in his country, on the pain of 10+ years in a gulag...
imagine that...

Pretty sad that governments like that still exist tbh.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:47 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
United Russian Federal Republic wrote:I am not praising Nazis. I am praising the soldiers and men of Vagner.

ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi i just have a very special interest in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"


Hey now, i watch a Netflix documentary and I'm a nazi now? what the hell
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:48 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi i just have a very special interest in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"


Hey now, i watch a Netflix documentary and I'm a nazi now? what the hell

i was pretty clearly talking about wehraboos and their "special interests" there dude...
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:50 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Hey now, i watch a Netflix documentary and I'm a nazi now? what the hell

i was pretty clearly talking about wehraboos and their "special interests" there dude...


There's a Netflix documentary about Hitlers wunderweapons, and another one that's not specifically about nazi tanks, but they feature a lot.
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Postby Perikuresu » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:03 am

Utquiagvik wrote:
United Russian Federal Republic wrote:It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

Azov have the emblem used by the SS, and you are not saying a word.

Can you stop calling it a “Special Military Operation” and just call it a war of aggression already?
And this war isn’t against nazis, Russia started this war to gain Ukrainian Territory and the population/economic benefits.

Stop calling it a War of Aggression blind Ukraine supporter.

It's clearly a Special Transport Operation
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Perikuresu wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:Can you stop calling it a “Special Military Operation” and just call it a war of aggression already?
And this war isn’t against nazis, Russia started this war to gain Ukrainian Territory and the population/economic benefits.

Stop calling it a War of Aggression blind Ukraine supporter.

It's clearly a Special Transport Operation

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:36 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:i was pretty clearly talking about wehraboos and their "special interests" there dude...


There's a Netflix documentary about Hitlers wunderweapons, and another one that's not specifically about nazi tanks, but they feature a lot.

The litmus test is believing that the Tiger was a good tank.
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Postby Jeriga » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:41 am

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Tarsonis wrote:
There's a Netflix documentary about Hitlers wunderweapons, and another one that's not specifically about nazi tanks, but they feature a lot.

The litmus test is believing that the Tiger was a good tank.

Was it not an objectively good tank if comparing firepower and range? Like I don't think liking ww2 equipment and having opinions about it makes one a nazi.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:55 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
United Russian Federal Republic wrote:I am not praising Nazis. I am praising the soldiers and men of Vagner.

ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi i just have a very special interest in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"

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Utquiagvik wrote:Can you stop calling it a “Special Military Operation” and just call it a war of aggression already?
And this war isn’t against nazis, Russia started this war to gain Ukrainian Territory and the population/economic benefits.

Stop calling it a War of Aggression blind Ukraine supporter.

It's clearly a Special Transport Operation

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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:56 am

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Tarsonis wrote:
There's a Netflix documentary about Hitlers wunderweapons, and another one that's not specifically about nazi tanks, but they feature a lot.

The litmus test is believing that the Tiger was a good tank.


It was a good tank, from a capabilities stand point. from a production standpoint, not so much.
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:02 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:i was pretty clearly talking about wehraboos and their "special interests" there dude...


There's a Netflix documentary about Hitlers wunderweapons, and another one that's not specifically about nazi tanks, but they feature a lot.


Theirs a couple national geo documentary on it
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:03 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:ok that's unapologetic nazism right there lad...
just like all those fuckers who says "im not a nazi im just very interested in nazi supertanks and wunderwaffen"

It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

Azov have the emblem used by the SS, and you are not saying a word.


Proof?
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Postby United Russian Federal Republic » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:54 am

Romanic Imperium wrote:
United Russian Federal Republic wrote:It is not. The SMO is against Nazism. Members of Vagner may sometimes be Nazis, but just like Azov.

Azov have the emblem used by the SS, and you are not saying a word.


Proof?

Proof of what? It is their emblem. A Wolfsangel symbol.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:57 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:The litmus test is believing that the Tiger was a good tank.


It was a good tank, from a capabilities stand point. from a production standpoint, not so much.

The Tiger was an overweight box that couldn't do anything that the Pershing couldn't do with two-thirds of the weight. If they put as much effort into designing an efficient sloped armor layout as they put into designing the needlessly complicated interleaved suspension to carry that overweight armored box, they might have actually had a good tank.

But we digress...
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