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Postby TheKeyToJoy » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:03 pm

100 years from now they’ll think of us as stupid humans. You knows there’s gonna be that guy that lives to 115.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:34 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Forever Indomitable wrote:I think this era will be generally viewed as boring and somewhat non-descript. If you look at times like the 50', 60's, 70's 80's, 90's and even the first half of the 00's, there are clear and distinctive characters to those periods. This is like the time of the generic, where everything is recycled, nobody really has any new ideas and everything just has such a bland quality to it. Obviously, there are exceptions, but still. So, on the opposite, I don't think we'll really be remembered that much or for anything in particular, except for how uninteresting we were, barring technological advancement.

Now that you mentioned it we can all dread the day 60s 70s & 80s as classic hits stations are replaced with 00s, 10s, and 20s classic hit stations. Assuming that the future doesn't also agree music for the most part peaked in the latter half of the 1900s.

Tbh, I won’t miss the incessant obsession with the ‘80s if it eventually went away.
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Postby Forever Indomitable » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:13 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Forever Indomitable wrote:I think this era will be generally viewed as boring and somewhat non-descript. If you look at times like the 50', 60's, 70's 80's, 90's and even the first half of the 00's, there are clear and distinctive characters to those periods. This is like the time of the generic, where everything is recycled, nobody really has any new ideas and everything just has such a bland quality to it. Obviously, there are exceptions, but still. So, on the opposite, I don't think we'll really be remembered that much or for anything in particular, except for how uninteresting we were, barring technological advancement.

Now that you mentioned it we can all dread the day 60s 70s & 80s as classic hits stations are replaced with 00s, 10s, and 20s classic hit stations. Assuming that the future doesn't also agree music for the most part peaked in the latter half of the 1900s.

I feel you. The modern generation of music isn't great. I prefer older rock, metal, pop and definitely country. Hip-hop is kind of a split and only electronic music seems like its getting better, today. I remember hearing Nirvana classified as retro rock and feeling slightly old, heh.

Stellar Colonies wrote:Tbh, I won’t miss the incessant obsession with the ‘80s if it eventually went away.

Oh yeah, that was always kind of weird. Why do you think that is, just older Millennials with some nostalgia? It always had support across demographics, too. Right-wingers like the 80's aesthetic, "liberal" types have a fascination with the pop culture and I even see commercials these days with a fucking CGI Dolph Lundgren.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:38 pm

Forever Indomitable wrote:...

Stellar Colonies wrote:Tbh, I won’t miss the incessant obsession with the ‘80s if it eventually went away.

Oh yeah, that was always kind of weird. Why do you think that is, just older Millennials with some nostalgia? It always had support across demographics, too. Right-wingers like the 80's aesthetic, "liberal" types have a fascination with the pop culture and I even see commercials these days with a fucking CGI Dolph Lundgren.

Apparently it's from the unique feel of it, especially in contrast to the dismal one before. The only part of the '80s which I find nostalgic though are some movies from it, like the middle four TOS films and the Back to the Future trilogy. Some of the music and historical events are interesting, but not any more or less than the adjacent decades.

The movie nostalgia also has more to do with my post-2000 childhood instead of anything to do with the decade they were made in, though.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:41 am

Everyone is Obsessed with the 80s/90s because it was the last time other than the 50s/early 60s that we were at peace and prosperous. Since 2001 we've been in a constant state of War or Economic hardship, Eventually people just say screw it and imitate the last happy time they remember which for American Society was the 1980s/90s.
Musically speaking the past seems better because we only have the good stuff, our Parents/Grandfather got to sort out the trash for us. Modern music is trash in comparison because we haven't sorted the good from the bad yet. I expect at least in the Pop scene for Folks like Taylor Swift and Britney Speers to survive while people like Lizzo and similar artists get left in the dust bin of history as "That wierd time when half the songs on the radio were not even secretly about sex but straight up about sex."
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Christian Confederation wrote:"That wierd time when half the songs on the radio were not even secretly about sex but straight up about sex."

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Postby Torisakia » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:47 pm

Implying that there will be a world for future generations to exist.
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Postby Apocalyptic Haven » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:27 pm

Torisakia wrote:Implying that there will be a world for future generations to exist.


My sentiments exactly. The future isn’t male or female. The future is oblivion.
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Postby Big Bad Blue » Tue Jan 24, 2023 5:28 pm

As the people who did nothing to arrest the march of late stage capitalism that wound up making the one planet known to be capable of supporting our species unfit for human life. Have a nice day. :)
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:03 pm

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Torisakia wrote:Implying that there will be a world for future generations to exist.
My sentiments exactly. The future isn’t male or female. The future is oblivion.
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Postby El Lazaro » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:22 pm

Torisakia wrote:Implying that there will be a world for future generations to exist.

Besides an unforeseen giant meteor impact, there is currently no way to wipe out all of humanity. We’re a young species compared to most mammals, and it’s hard to compare us to other species at all—the modern human population is more defined by technological than biological limitations, and the former evolves much faster than the latter. The idea that we “rule” the world right now isn’t that accurate, but we have no competitors, no natural threats, and an unmatched capacity to manipulate our environment. Yes, we can do more harm to ourselves than any other species, but the idea that humans are less adaptable than nearly every species in Earth’s history is very pessimistic IMO.

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Postby Big Bad Blue » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:26 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Implying that there will be a world for future generations to exist.

Besides an unforeseen giant meteor impact, there is currently no way to wipe out all of humanity. We’re a young species compared to most mammals, and it’s hard to compare us to other species at all—the modern human population is more defined by technological than biological limitations, and the former evolves much faster than the latter. The idea that we “rule” the world right now isn’t that accurate, but we have no competitors, no natural threats, and an unmatched capacity to manipulate our environment. Yes, we can do more harm to ourselves than any other species, but the idea that humans are less adaptable than nearly every species in Earth’s history is very pessimistic IMO.


The simplest way to wipe out all of humanity would be to warm the planet to a wet bulb temperature over 95 F (35 C). Finis humanis.
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Postby El Lazaro » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:13 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Besides an unforeseen giant meteor impact, there is currently no way to wipe out all of humanity. We’re a young species compared to most mammals, and it’s hard to compare us to other species at all—the modern human population is more defined by technological than biological limitations, and the former evolves much faster than the latter. The idea that we “rule” the world right now isn’t that accurate, but we have no competitors, no natural threats, and an unmatched capacity to manipulate our environment. Yes, we can do more harm to ourselves than any other species, but the idea that humans are less adaptable than nearly every species in Earth’s history is very pessimistic IMO.


The simplest way to wipe out all of humanity would be to warm the planet to a wet bulb temperature over 95 F (35 C). Finis humanis.

Literally just Florida. Plus, nobody has a giant orbital heat ray afaik.

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Rusozak wrote:What future generations?
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Postby Technoscience Leftwing » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:47 am

First of all, future generations will be surprised and outraged that we tolerated the power of a handful of billionaires or state dignitaries who acted for the sake of their self-interest and love of power. And who did not aim for the greatest good of the greatest number of people.

This led to many different troubles: spending money on the military industry and police surveillance, instead of spending on the welfare of the people. Excessive prohibitions and repressiveness in culture. The cult of labor, in conditions when automation could displace involuntary human labor. Propaganda of nationalism and religious obscurantism, leading to wars.

In comparison, the question of using meat is secondary - but probably in the future they will invent an artificial analogue of meat that surpasses natural meat in taste and nutritional value. And this analogue will displace natural meat from consumption.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:27 am

I assume they will hate us, feel bad for us, and want to fuck us, just like all other generations in history
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:15 am

Most of us have the vast amounts of information available to us. And yet, there is much relishing in misinformation.

As optimistic as I am, that is at least my personal view. On the topic of us being dumber and stupider, I kindaaaa don't think so; it's just that the Internet - despite its greats and strengths - also lets everyday antics and tomfoolery be immortalized seen by the whole world. We didn't know how much stupid harmful pranks and general dumbassery plagued the older generations, mostly because no one is posting about it 24/7.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:22 am

Christian Confederation wrote:Depending on what happens in the next decade it could go one of two ways.
If the "You will own nothing, You will eat ze bugs, and be happy" crowd wins future generations will view us as cowards who let our freedoms be taken without a fight.
If the Freedom Crowd wins future generations will see us similarly to how we view the Greatest Generation (IE Had. A back bone and fought for what we believed in.)

Culturally the first 20-30 years of the 21st century will be viewed as a period of great triumphs and trash at the same time. As Future Generations watch Films like Spiderverse, Up, Wall-E, How to Train your Dragon, Shrek, etc they'll Marvel at how amazing it must have been to live during such a major important part of film history. Then they can see the pure trash we made and realize we're not perfect and Culture could have went a totally different way.
Depending on how the Culture War ends future generations will eather have good media or the box checking crap coming out of modern Hollywood.

Demographically Future Generations will be more conservative bassed on the simple statistical fact that conservatives have more kids. If they stay conservative depends on if our generation can remove the leftists from Education. Future generations will also be more diverse if current trends continue, Whites will no longer be the Majority and most would probably be mixed race.

How future generations view us intends entirely on what we do today and who holds power in future. I don't know about you but I intend to be on the side that writes the history books and holds power, Not the side that fails to take power and is viewed as the villains by future generations.

The most leftist president we will get in a very long time will, like, be a centrist (as all current leading democrats are center-right). We will absolutely not get a communist president, literally ever. You severely overestimate the strength of Communism, which is a fringe ideology in America and most of the world. The SocDem DSA only has just under 100k members (allegedly), and communism is much smaller than that.
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Postby Deblar » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:08 am

They'll probably look at us and go "what the hell were they thinking?"

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Postby Floofybit » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:16 am

If kids today are always like, how did they survive with only paper in school, I wonder what kids in the future will have when they look back and think, how did they survive with only a laptop in school
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:24 am

To answer the question,
Boomers will be remembered as the ones who took the opportunity following WW2 and fucked it up bad, and who declared wars of aggression the world over to establish or cement a new world order,
Gen X will be remembered as the ones who continued their father's ways and cemented Neoliberalism in America, were forced to fight the Boomers' wars, and yet still matured to do the same themselves in the Wars on Terror, and the last ones that opposed the ideals of the 21st century en masse,
Millenials will be remembered as the ones who began to see the issues in their elder's ways, began to accept LGBT people, and (sorta) tried to fix it, but were forced to live in the depressing world that the Boomers and Gen X created, feeling powerless to help their situation.
Gen Z will (probably) be remembered as the ones who fully accepted 21st century values, and the ones who tried (and perhaps succeeded) to change the world for the better, being fortunate enough to be born on the tail end of the Boomers' and Gen X's lifespans. They will be the generation of change and the first generation to live their entire life with the internet, be that good or bad. Also memes.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:29 am

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:Gen Z will (probably) be remembered as the ones who fully accepted 21st century values, and the ones who tried (and perhaps succeeded) to change the world for the better, being fortunate enough to be born on the tail end of the Boomers' and Gen X's lifespans. They will be the generation of change and the first generation to live their entire life with the internet, be that good or bad. Also memes.

I don't think they succeeded in changing the world for the better :p
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