How can you believe in evolution?

[Ifreann]

Still? lol no one is even answering him, it's like watching a political debate in here.

Because debating a creationist only succeeds in making his position look like it has any weight at all. It's been compared to playing chess with a pigeon.

I love that quote. Can't be bothered to look it up though. Something about a pigeon shitting all over the board and then flying to his fellow pigeons to brag about his 'victory'.

Whatever man, it was a stalemate.

[Bergnovinaia]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest... but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

[Ifreann]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

[Bergnovinaia]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

To be fit usually means that a certain genotype allows for that specific indvidual to be able to survive and reproduce in their environment.

And I just took a course in highschool AP biology and we watched a video about evolution and there were such claims.

[JJ Place]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe.

That's called 'The Big Bang Theory', and it has nothing to do with Evolution.

Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Under evolutionary thought, fish did not 'grow legs'; they evolved into land creatures with functioning limbs, lungs, and features that allowed them to survive out of an aquatic setting, the entire process of micro organism to land creature spanning billions of years.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

It's a better theory than a Magical creature creating everything from his hands in 6 days, and resting on the 7th. Evolution might not be a perfect theory; however, unlike religion, much of evolution has actually been proven to be fact, and both the creators and those who think there is something to evolution don't simply reject everything that goes against evolution, and attempt to silence everyone with an alternative opinion to theirs without ever even attempting to think about the legitimacy and factuality of there theory.

[Ifreann]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

To be fit usually means that a certain genotype allows for that specific indvidual to be able to survive and reproduce in their environment.

Imagine that, someone who knows the first thing about evolution but still denies this. This should be wrong EDIT: fun(I really have no idea why I wrote "wrong".

And I just took a course in highschool AP biology and we watched a video about evolution and there were such claims.

That humans evolved from chickens? Gods I hope not. That all mammals share a common ancestor? Well yes, they do, in all likelihood.

[Nort Eurasia]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

And a causative agent, such as "God", sounds more rational?

[Xsyne]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

To be fit usually means that a certain genotype allows for that specific indvidual to be able to survive and reproduce in their environment.

And I just took a course in highschool AP biology and we watched a video about evolution and there were such claims.

No, there weren't. There were claims that whales evolved from mammals with a superficial resemblance to wolves. Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't actually pay attention.

[Bergnovinaia]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

To be fit usually means that a certain genotype allows for that specific indvidual to be able to survive and reproduce in their environment.

And I just took a course in highschool AP biology and we watched a video about evolution and there were such claims.

No, there weren't. There were claims that whales evolved from mammals with a superficial resemblance to wolves. Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't actually pay attention.

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

[Xsyne]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

To be fit usually means that a certain genotype allows for that specific indvidual to be able to survive and reproduce in their environment.

And I just took a course in highschool AP biology and we watched a video about evolution and there were such claims.

No, there weren't. There were claims that whales evolved from mammals with a superficial resemblance to wolves. Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't actually pay attention.

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

I call bullshit.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

Nothing about evolution precludes divine intervention.

[Farnhamia]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Er... I don't believe in evolution. I would like to point out though that one time I saw a documentary on evolution and it stated that many top evolutionary thinkers (i.e. Darwin, etc.) said something similar to this: "Although the beauty and originality looks like it was created by a divine being, we must rememer that this is false and impossible, and that evolution with time, created the vast species we see today.

And they're right, in all likelihood.

I can understand and actually believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially surival of the fittest...

And I bet you can't tell me what it means to be "fit" from an evolutionary standpoint

but the other parts that, for instance, claim that cannies evolved from whale like mammals, I can't even begin to understand where people would think that. Sure, they have similar leg structures, but just because humans and chickens have legs, does that mean we evovled from them?

There are no such claims. Your understanding of evolution is flawed beyond words.

To be fit usually means that a certain genotype allows for that specific indvidual to be able to survive and reproduce in their environment.

And I just took a course in highschool AP biology and we watched a video about evolution and there were such claims.

No, there weren't. There were claims that whales evolved from mammals with a superficial resemblance to wolves. Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't actually pay attention.

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

That's Ifreann, by the way, not Sexnation.

Why is a supernatural creator required? Just because we don't understand how life arose doesn't mean there had to be an intelligent creator. It just means we don't understand yet.

As for whales, here's a very good article from talkorigins. It used to be thought that whales - cetaceans - descended from bear-like or dog-like animals. It's now thought that they are much more closely related to ungulates, that is, horses, deer, goats, hippopotamuses.

[Ifreann]

@Sexnation:

I know that's what's on my flag, but that's not my nation's name.

I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution,

Which ones, exactly?

especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

Nothing in the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection says that there cannot be a creator god. In fact, the only people who think that acceptance of evolution is incompatible with belief in some kind of god are creationists, the same people who demand that we accept what they say as scientific fact in the complete absence of evidence.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

[Don-Valentino]

this is evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fm3Z7jgWM&feature=channel

[Ifreann]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

An intelligent designer is to science what a romance plot is to an action movie.

[Stephen Colbert USA]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

Aww... that's what the supernatural creator thinks of you too.

And God did not create us to evolve. It says clearly in the bible "God created man." The Bible did NOT say, "In the beginning, God evolutioned gay monkeys." Sorry, liberal-commies, that's not what happened.

[Karsol]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

Aww... that's what the supernatural creator thinks of you too.

And God did not create us to evolve. It says clearly in the bible "God created man." The Bible did NOT say, "In the beginning, God evolutioned gay monkeys." Sorry, liberal-commies, that's not what happened.

Clearly this one religion out of millions has to be right...

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Is it more likely that there's this old bloke sitting on a cloud and then all of a sudden, BAM! he starts pulling things out of his hat?

To be honest, what you said sounded a bit sarcastic - like you were actually making fun of the ones who don't believe in The Big Bang and Evolution theories? If you weren't being sarcastic though;

[Cheztope]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

Aww... that's what the supernatural creator thinks of you too.

And God did not create us to evolve. It says clearly in the bible "God created man." The Bible did NOT say, "In the beginning, God evolutioned gay monkeys." Sorry, liberal-commies, that's not what happened.

Clearly this one religion out of millions has to be right...

^ win

[Stephen Colbert USA]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

Aww... that's what the supernatural creator thinks of you too.

And God did not create us to evolve. It says clearly in the bible "God created man." The Bible did NOT say, "In the beginning, God evolutioned gay monkeys." Sorry, liberal-commies, that's not what happened.

Clearly this one religion out of millions has to be right...

^ win

Why thank you, I did win that argument.

[Karsol]

Well, I can guarantee you that I pay attention because I got 100% on the evolution test, thank you very much. I never said that the material in the movie is correct, but that's what I heard, and that was an answer to a question on the test.

@Sexnation: I do believe in survival of the fittest... I don't just believe in certain aspects of evolution, especially without a creator of the picture. What I don't understad, is why couldn't of a divine being created us to evolve?

It's not that a supernatural creator is impossible. It's just that it's unnecessary, and thus it feels tacked-on and pointless.

Aww... that's what the supernatural creator thinks of you too.

And God did not create us to evolve. It says clearly in the bible "God created man." The Bible did NOT say, "In the beginning, God evolutioned gay monkeys." Sorry, liberal-commies, that's not what happened.

Clearly this one religion out of millions has to be right...

^ win

Why thank you, I did win that argument.

Sarcasm -meter broken?

[Treznor]

Why thank you, I did win that argument.

Sarcasm -meter broken?

He's role-playing. Consider who Stephen Colbert is.

[Karsol]

Why thank you, I did win that argument.

Sarcasm -meter broken?

He's role-playing. Consider who Stephen Colbert is.

I don't watch American programing much. >.>

[Taylorship]

How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

Okay, this is not at ALL what supposedly happened. In fact, evolution has nothing to do with any of this. So, if you want to argue against it, actually learn what it is. You can't argue against anything that you don't know anything about. I suggest if you figure out WHY we believe that, then you can argue.

[Obamacain]

Just in case nobody already answered it this way I am restating it:

Proof of evolution is found in:
Embryology- revealing similarities in embryos
Fossil Record- showing gradual (+punctuated equilibrium) changes in structures
Homologous structures- showing common body plans-points to common ancestor
Chemical Evidence- Showing most organisms share the same Hox genes and showing that similar organisms have similar DNA (reveals speciation)
Bacterial Resistance to Antibodies- showing the progression of a substance and adaptations
Geographic Distrubution- showing similarities and branching by area

These can be easily proven and do not contradict creationism is anyway. Note that Darwin was a creationist.

Longer theory of evolution (a.k.a incorporation of the theory of Evolution into all life as we know it):
Beginning Earth formed. Eventually it cooled enough for water to remain a liquid. Eventually vents in the bottom of the ocean, hydrothermal, cause geothermal reactions that spawn cell-like structures like the protenoid microsphere. Eventually with the usage of nucleic acid these were able to adapt. The cells changed with the adaptations of mitochondria and chloroplasts helping them make more energy. This is called the Endosymbiotic theory read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endosymbiotic_theory.

Multicellular life eventually emerged after cells began to work together for the common goal of all life, food a.k.a. energy. During this time, these cells adapted to a new form of reproduction, sexual rather than asexual. The new form of reproduction caused what is known as the Cambrian Explosion as new species emerged more quickly. This is due to the fact that sexual reproduction leaves more room for adaptations.

Now you're wondering where we come from. Well about 360 million years ago a creature who was recently been uncovered named the Ichthyostega crawled onto land to avoid predation. This made the species more fit. The species however, was more like an amphibian because it still had to live in the ocean. However, many adaptations later it had adapted to living entirely on land. Link: http://www.livescience.com/animals/050831_four_legs.html

This species went through adaptive radiation, producing many different animal species over time. Insects and plants had already been around FYI. Now we are going to make another jump to the time of the dinosaurs. During this time, the mammal population emerged, though it was low. One of the first species was the Megazostrodon which was a rodent-amphibian mix. After the K-T extinction, there were no dinosaurs to provide predation to the mammals. So, they went through another adaptive radiation producing many different species of mammals.

Eventually the hominid section of the evolutionary tree emerged. Among this branch were old world monkeys and new world monkeys (old world- Europe+Asia, New World-Americas). We eventually developed from a group of old world monkey that learned how to stand upright. After this they developed tool learning skills, or possibly even before as other apes have learned how to do this. The main reason for our large brain is that their was an adaptation after we became a more settled population that lessened the strength of the jaw muscle. This caused the brain plates to fuse later and permitted more brain development.

Proof of Human descendancy from apes include similar DNA and similar behaviors as well as embryology