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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed May 26, 2010 8:32 am

Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.

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Postby The Tofu Islands » Wed May 26, 2010 8:34 am

The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.

Carbon dating doesn't actually show that -- carbon only works back a few thousand years or so. Other radioactive materials are used for dating the earth.
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed May 26, 2010 8:35 am

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The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.

Carbon dating doesn't actually show that -- carbon only works back a few thousand years or so. Other radioactive materials are used for dating the earth.


My mistake then. But we've still clearly proven that the Earth is older than Creationism claims it to be.

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Postby Grantanata » Wed May 26, 2010 8:35 am

The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.



Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?
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Postby Vittos Ordination » Wed May 26, 2010 8:35 am

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Google piles sources upon you without much consideration for their truthfulness or usefulness. It can be prohibitive at times if you don't really know what you are looking at.

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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed May 26, 2010 8:35 am

Grantanata wrote:Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?


What evidence is there of creationism.

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Postby Agadar » Wed May 26, 2010 8:36 am

Well, my grandparents don't :lol:
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 26, 2010 8:36 am

The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.

6,000 years is about the age according to Young Earth Creationsists, based on counting backwards in the Bible through the figures found there. Carbon dating is only good back about 62,000 years. There are other radiometric dating methods that do go way back, though.
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Wed May 26, 2010 8:37 am

Grantanata wrote:Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?

Lots.

Plus the current best guess on age of the earth is ~4.5 billion years, which is a bit too long for YEC.
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Postby Monte Mare » Wed May 26, 2010 8:37 am

Grantanata wrote:How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed May 26, 2010 8:38 am

Vittos Ordination wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Do people really not know how to use google?


Google piles sources upon you without much consideration for their truthfulness or usefulness. It can be prohibitive at times if you don't really know what you are looking at.


But come on. If somebody want to find out about evolution or the big bang, it's quite simple to find the information out.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 26, 2010 8:38 am

Grantanata wrote:
The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.



Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?

Quite a lot, actually: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
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Postby Grantanata » Wed May 26, 2010 8:38 am

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Grantanata wrote:Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?


What evidence is there of creationism.


Everything around you! No matter what religion you are, the deity created everything. For me, it is God. In my opinion, he created everything in the world.
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Postby Agadar » Wed May 26, 2010 8:39 am

:palm:

In this thread: People mistaking the Theory of Evolution with the Theory of Natural Selection.

By the way: both are pretty much proven, in compare to other theories which have barely, if any, supporting evidence.
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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed May 26, 2010 8:39 am

Grantanata wrote:Everything around you! No matter what religion you are, the deity created everything. For me, it is God. In my opinion, he created everything in the world.


That is belief, not evidence.

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Postby Vervaria » Wed May 26, 2010 8:39 am

Grantanata wrote:
The Imperial Navy wrote:
Grantanata wrote:Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?


What evidence is there of creationism.


Everything around you! No matter what religion you are, the deity created everything. For me, it is God. In my opinion, he created everything in the world.

And I'm sure you can back that up with something besides your belief.
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Wed May 26, 2010 8:39 am

Farnhamia wrote:Quite a lot, actually: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

I think I just ninja'd you twice in a row...

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Postby Cyndonian Legion » Wed May 26, 2010 8:40 am

Grantanata wrote:How can you believe in evolution?

I mean something happened and all of a sudden, BAM! We have an explosion and all of the things collide and form everything we have in our universe. Then some millions to billions of years later we have micro oranisms that evolve into fish. Next, those fish "grow" legs and walk onto land. After that, they some how evolve into all of the millions of billions of living organisms that we have today.

Could someone please explain as to why you would believe in this?

What the hell is this?

Good job. You've successfully mixed a raped version of the Big Bang Theory, with a cross-breed inbred version of evolution mixed with abiogenesis.

Three different scientific theories, and you've completely decimated the definition of each. Cool story bro.

The Big Bang Theory: Is the explanation that our universe came from a very dense primordial substance, and the explanation therein' of how it proceeded to expand. There are several evidences for this, making it easily believable. The most obvious of all: We're still able to observe the universe expanding.

Abiogenesis: Abiogensis is the theory that life can come from non-life. That is, that life originated from inorganic molecules, which can produce organic molecules. This has been demonstrated by many experiments, one of the most famous being the Miller-Urey experiement, in which amino acids, organic molecules which are the building blocks of life, were formed via natural chemical reactions. And, far more recently: scientists have created the very first synthetic organism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 41984.html

Evolution: Evolution is the study and explanation of the change of species throughout generations, natural selection, DNA, mutation, common ancestry, and so-forth.
Reasons to believe such.
A) We have witnessed species evolve. We have specifically caused many of these evolutions to occur for our own purposes. <--kinda a biggie
B) The understanding of evolution has brought breakthroughs and advances to the genetic and medical industries.
C) Chromosomes from DNA, and our understanding of how they transfer from parent to child.
D) Fossil records.
E) The list goes on.


Now, my question to you is, why on earth do you object to something you apparently know absolutely nothing about? :eyebrow:
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Postby Eradium » Wed May 26, 2010 8:40 am

Grantanata wrote:
The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.



Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?


Evolution is an incredibly well observed phenomenon, sure the theory that tries to explain it may not be absolutely perfect, (especially since almost every form of information transfer possible has happened, it's about as complex as the universe itself). The theory of evolution is actually far better understood than the theory surrounding gravity, at least people know why evolution occurs, why gravity occurs is still wide open to debate. (Shame we don't see people denying gravity, that would be more fun.)
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Postby Songri » Wed May 26, 2010 8:41 am

Grantanata wrote:
The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.



Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?


The various breeds of dogs and sheep (to name two). For the most part they are two examples of human introduced evolution, to the point where there are some breeds of dogs that are generally incapable of surviving in the wild (Toy dogs for example)
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Postby FreeSatania » Wed May 26, 2010 8:42 am

Grantanata wrote:
The Imperial Navy wrote:Evolution is a little more believable than a supreme being making all life go "DING!" and exist.

Also, if Creationism is correct, then the earth is barely 3000 years old. When carbon dating clearly shows it's a few billion.



Actually Creationism says it is about 6000. And, it wasn't a "DING!". What evidence is there of evolution?


Being a non-batshit-carzy-american Christian I ask you to point to anywhere in the bible where it actually says that.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed May 26, 2010 8:42 am

The Tofu Islands wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Quite a lot, actually: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

I think I just ninja'd you twice in a row...

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Postby The Imperial Navy » Wed May 26, 2010 8:43 am

Having read some of the posts, I am tempted to start a thread titled "How can you believe in Gravity?"

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