Ripping Off The Bandage: Fascism, How Do You Feel?

[Saiwania]

As a long term unproductive work shy moocher, you would probably be in a forced labour camp.

Hitler himself was unemployed in Vienna for a time. So was Himmler after failure of Beer Hall Putsch. Helping a Fourth Reich get into power should count for something. I don't expect to be expendable right away, unless I'm meeting Ernst Rohm's fate. But I'd just read the room and submit and get out of the way of the big boss before it reaches that point.

[Heloin]

an ideology for violent bigots who failed at everything else in life.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Broadly speaking, I tend to agree with them on the identification of social issues. Because they often present themselves as anti-capitalists, which I also agree with, for a while I considered myself part of the same general direction of thought.

However, in practice, where they do correctly identify issues they then tend towards overly simplistic conspiratorial thinking. Blaming Jews or gays or whatever and putting them in an altogether unrealistic position of power. Not that I particularly like the groups in question, but their social power and influence is quite limited to particular issues rather than over the overall form of the system. The ultimate cause for problems is almost always found in capitalism and its contradictions and for all their supposed anti-capitalism it seems more like harnessing the power of private enterprise to the state and directing it for their own purposes (which does not change the overall relations for ordinary people towards capital in any substantial manner).

The glorification of war is also very stupid. It might make sense in parts of the world with active territorial disputes but in my part of the world the borders have become firmly established, most foreign military engagements we get involved with are unjust, and throwing away your own people's lives to deprive other nations of their existence doesn't exactly seem like the behaviour of a good nationalist or localist in this respect.

To summarise, I tend to find fascists some of the easiest people to understand and have some sympathy with them, but I feel like there's some degree of brainworms separating them from seeing the full social dynamics. I'm most interested in Strasserism, but I suspect there's a strong aspect there of idealising the forms and individuals that never got into power and therefore had capacity to criticise the faults of those in charge when they'd have probably made many of the same mistakes themselves!

[American Legionaries]

As a long term unproductive work shy moocher, you would probably be in a forced labour camp.

Hitler himself was unemployed in Vienna for a time. So was Himmler after failure of Beer Hall Putsch. Helping a Fourth Reich get into power should count for something. I don't expect to be expendable right away, unless I'm meeting Ernst Rohm's fate. But I'd just read the room and submit and get out of the way of the big boss before it reaches that point.

Sai, if a Fascist regime ever comes to power, your incessent cheerleading for them would be, quite accurately, viewed as the exact opposite of 'helping'.

[-Astoria-]

In two words: extremely negative.

[Furballland]

Fascism is a horrible from of government, and Fascism deserves nothing!

[New-Minneapolis]

I have an extreme contempt for fascism. Since you know, fascists want people like me dead.

[The Selkie]

Fascism is a horrible from of government, and Fascism deserves nothing!

Ideology, Furballland. Fascism is an ideology, like Socialism and Liberalism. A set of ideas and ideals to explain the world and to solve the issues said idealogy perceives.
Forms of government are, for example, democracy or monarchy. A general system of who has which power and where it is derived from.

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That all being said, Fascism is... as a German, I have a special relationship to one form of Fascism, namely to National Socialism. Its rise, its terror regime and its crimes were always topics in school, ever since I was 15. We read Anne Frank's Diary in German Language Class, went through the rise to power twice in History, didn't even really touch on WW2 itself (and on the Pacific only in three lines) and so on.
What actually made the NS the NS, however, we never really touched. That was left to personal studies - documentaries by Guido Knopp helped a lot there.
I found NS, and Fascism as a whole, not to my liking. Neither as an ideology, nor what was made of it once in power - especially not the latter. I'm more of a 'live and let live' kinda guy, war and genocide aren't my things either. I laugh at good Hitler parodies like anyone, which I find is an appropriate means to deal with it.

Would I have lived in the 30s and/or 40s, would I have been in any sort of Resistance? Probably not. I'd have kept my head down low.
Do I think, that Sai would land in a work camp for his constant simping for it, if in a similar situation? To be honest, I don't really care. Were we in that situation, I'd have slightly different things to worry about.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Let is not forget the worst kind of fascists...

Femboy Fascists.

[New-Minneapolis]

Let is not forget the worst kind of fascists...

Femboy Fascists.

They overlap with alt-furry quite a bit.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Let is not forget the worst kind of fascists...

Femboy Fascists.

They overlap with alt-furry quite a bit.

Oh yeah... the Furred Reich. Forgot about 'em.

[American Legionaries]

Let is not forget the worst kind of fascists...

Femboy Fascists.

They overlap with alt-furry quite a bit.

Would alt-furry be like, scaly?

[New-Minneapolis]

They overlap with alt-furry quite a bit.

Oh yeah... the Furred Reich. Forgot about 'em.

I wonder if gay men like Andy Ngo think that fascists are going to let him live because "he is one of the good ones".

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Oh yeah... the Furred Reich. Forgot about 'em.

I wonder if gay men like Andy Ngo think that fascists are going to let him live because "he is one of the good ones".

Adolf literally killed one of his men because they were going to broker a pro-nzi peace deal.

Unfortunately for Ngo, even the "good ones" still weren't out of the equation.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Fascism is not very poggers

an ideology for violent bigots who failed at everything else in life.

Pretty much.

[Dumb Ideologies]

They overlap with alt-furry quite a bit.

Would alt-furry be like, scaly?

maybe if they dont moisturise enough

[New-Minneapolis]

They overlap with alt-furry quite a bit.

Would alt-furry be like, scaly?

Alt-furry are furries who are Nazis. They tend to stay within their own small groups because other furries hate them and other nazis want them dead.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Would alt-furry be like, scaly?

maybe if they dont moisturise enough

Oh they moisturize enough.

[American Legionaries]

Oh yeah... the Furred Reich. Forgot about 'em.

I wonder if gay men like Andy Ngo think that fascists are going to let him live because "he is one of the good ones".

I mean, bad mustache man and Co. let Jewish folks live as long as they were the 'good ones'.

[New-Minneapolis]

I wonder if gay men like Andy Ngo think that fascists are going to let him live because "he is one of the good ones".

I mean, bad mustache man and Co. let Jewish folks live as long as they were the 'good ones'.

I mean, they where going to kill them anyway if the Nazis reached their goals. When they were no longer deemed useful, they would be killed.

[American Legionaries]

I mean, bad mustache man and Co. let Jewish folks live as long as they were the 'good ones'.

I mean, they where going to kill them anyway if the Nazis reached their goals. When they were no longer deemed useful, they would be killed.

Maybe, maybe not. Thankfully we never found out.

[New-Minneapolis]

I mean, they where going to kill them anyway if the Nazis reached their goals. When they were no longer deemed useful, they would be killed.

Maybe, maybe not. Thankfully we never found out.

Do you consider yourself a Holocaust "revisionist"(denier)? Because the Nazis wanted to exterminate all Jews, and they would use a small number of Jews as pawns in order to reach that goal.

[American Legionaries]

Maybe, maybe not. Thankfully we never found out.

Do you consider yourself a Holocaust "revisionist"(denier)? Because the Nazis wanted to exterminate all Jews, and they would use a small number of Jews as pawns in order to reach that goal.

The fuck? Why would I consider myself that?

[New-Minneapolis]

Do you consider yourself a Holocaust "revisionist"(denier)? Because the Nazis wanted to exterminate all Jews, and they would use a small number of Jews as pawns in order to reach that goal.

The fuck? Why would I consider myself that?

I'm just asking. Because I think the facts show the nazis wanted all Jews dead at the end.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

The fuck? Why would I consider myself that?

I'm just asking. Because I think the facts show the nazis wanted all Jews dead at the end.

Adolfs mom was jewish which by the religion means that Adolf himself was a jew.

So... ehhh... but let's be honest they would just have covered that up.