Ripping Off The Bandage: Fascism, How Do You Feel?

[Bovad]

Fascism is terrible. Especially the racist part

He is saying that he hates people from other countries regardless of their race.

[Floofybit]

He is saying that he hates people from other countries regardless of their race.

Wait what?!

[Saiwania]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

[Observation Post 13]

He is saying that he hates people from other countries regardless of their race.

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

Neo-fascist being open and blatant! Thank you for everyone!

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

I've always found fascism, and other similar ideologies, to be rather interesting. Now...is it fair to call the ideology the "villain of history"?

yes.

There's different forms of fascism, some of which weren't exactly eye-to-eye with Hitler's views.

all of them are bad.

If we're going off off of the amount of people dead I'd reckon that communism, more specifically Maoism and Stalinism, was much worse.

maoism and stalinism are also horrible and share concepts with fascism, but in terms of core ideas I’d say fascism is still worse by a landslide.

[East Lukalkus]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

Fascism will eventually lead to a dead end for any nation that implements it, no matter how strong nationalism is fervor can only last so long and its economics are terrible for long term stability

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

the point of a country is not to build an empire, it’s to improve the quality of life of all its citizens and ideally humanity at large. governments that fail to do this should be replaced. fascism objectively and purposefully fails at this and thus must be eradicated.

also fascism doesn’t even help you build a functioning empire, for the simple reason that an enemy must always exist. eventually fascism would tear and hate itself into shreds, killing millions and millions in the process. luckily it wasn’t given the chance.

[Observation Post 13]

It is important for us to be aware of the dangers of far-right extremist movements and to actively work to oppose and combat their spread. This can involve supporting democratic values and institutions, speaking out against hate and intolerance, and promoting social justice and equality. It is also important to educate ourselves about the history and dangers of far-right extremist movements and to be vigilant in protecting against their resurgence.

[HISPIDA]

Fascism is terrible. Especially the racist part

tfw like 10 years after saying this you become an active participant in the holocaust

[East Lukalkus]

tfw like 10 years after saying this you become an active participant in the holocaust

What?

[Kenowa]

I don't mind fascism as long as it doesn't affect me.

[Frostland]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

Indeed a strong state can accomplish reform better than loose governance, and fervent nationalism can induce great development for a nation in the economic and political fields. Imperialist desires, however, are what fails the nation in the long run, especially if the nation overestimates its capabilities and traps itself in a cycle of aggression.

[Washington-Columbia]

Fascism is the (second if we don't count Nazism as fascism) worst ideology in history. Its ideology, when the people who were following it were in power, helped take power of several countries which influenced their politics and policies. Being authoritarian and nationalistic, the fascist ideologies in those policies were often harmful, Which I'll explain.

helping to either shape many brutal conquests, (Germany, Japan) and many massacres came out of them. Hundreds of Residents in the Balkans were murdered by Italians or Germans, Italian war crimes in Ethiopia, and the Japanese crimes against humanity in East and Southeast Asia, like the Manila and Nanjing Massacres. ROC and the USSR suffered the greatest loss of civilian life, while Lithuania, Latvia, Poland and the USSR saw the highest percentage of population loss in percentages, with only the USSR having over 1/3rd of its fatalities in WW2 being in the Military. 60% of the deaths in WW2 were Allied Civilians.
It also helped as the framework of the Holocaust, which killed 11 million, and other genocides and concentration camps to "pacify" the people like the Italian Pacification of Libya, where 80 thousand Cyrenacians were murdered. I could go on, like the murders of political opponents, or helping to make a spike in racism in Europe, and etc. But I think it is enough.

In short, Fascism is brutal, genocidal, and one of the worst Ideologies in history, with its massacres, genocides, and authoritarianism, and has no redeeming qualities other than pleasing a few people in the government.

[Port Caverton]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

the point of a country is not to build an empire, it’s to improve the quality of life of all its citizens and ideally humanity at large. governments that fail to do this should be replaced. fascism objectively and purposefully fails at this and thus must be eradicated.

also fascism doesn’t even help you build a functioning empire, for the simple reason that an enemy must always exist. eventually fascism would tear and hate itself into shreds, killing millions and millions in the process. luckily it wasn’t given the chance.

And the biggest empire ever, the UK, was never fascist.

[Countesia]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

Silver lining, you might be able to finally get a job

[Najairadarethu]

I think the characteristics described in the OP are accurate for many fascist ideologies.
Whatever it might look like in a single case, fascism is an abhorrent and dangerous ideology that leaves no space for strong, autonomous individuals. It is hostile towards intellectuals and artists, feels threatened by any science conducted in the spirit of the Enlightenment. On a psychological level. I've always felt disgust when people get excited about being a part of something greater than themselves.

The right way to counter fascism is not boundless humanism, though. You must be on your guard and able to defend yourself at all times, because fascism comes in many guises and if you are unlucky, it overpowers you in your metaphorical sleep.

[The Great Nevada Overlord]

Fascism is terrible. Especially the racist part

Sorry to do this to ya but... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

[HISPIDA]

tfw like 10 years after saying this you become an active participant in the holocaust

What?

mussolini became an active participant in the holocaust and started preaching support for white supremacy in the late 30's and early 40's

not to mention the genocides against colonial subjects but britain, japan, the US, and france among others did the same thing so this isn't a uniquely fascist evil unfortunately

[East Lukalkus]

What?

mussolini became an active participant in the holocaust and started preaching support for white supremacy in the late 30's and early 40's

not to mention the genocides against colonial subjects but britain, japan, the US, and france among others did the same thing so this isn't a uniquely fascist evil unfortunately

Ah alright, your OP was worded poorly, you made it sound like you were saying I would become an active part of it 10 years after I posted that.

[Observation Post 13]

Fascism:

1. Promotes discrimination and hate
2. Suppresses individual rights and freedoms
3. Undermines democracy and the rule of law

Democracy:

1. Promotes equality
2. Protects individual rights and freedoms
3. Promotes accountability
4. Encourages participation and engagement

Democracy is underrated and often portrayed as inefficient and weak by certain channels of information, but it is a system that promotes values and principles that are important for a just and fair society that people like you and me want to live in.

[A-10]

Fascism is a self destructive ideology. A Fascist Country will see itself and its people as superior to other countries and other peoples. This makes alliances with other nations nearly impossible and even if it can be achieved the alliance will be small and won't last.

Think about how the Axis Powers were just three nations, two of which were openly fascist with the other one having fascist qualities. This alliance was doomed from the start. Once Italy surrendered to the allies The Germans turned on them as Italy had no purpose in benefiting them.

To put it simply, Fascist Countries only care about themselves and their own population which ruins their chances at an alliance and will backfire when their neighbors turn on them.

[Washington-Columbia]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

What do you mean by "Best empire possible"?

If it is to focus on expansion and size, then it becomes unstable and a hellhole to live in because not many resources are kept maintaining domestic matters and not much resources being spent to help the people through spending on healthcare, education or infrastructure. Even with spending on these four, it is still miserable to live in as you would be executed for your beliefs, whether economic, social or religious, and many civil liberties like freedom of speech, or fair trials aren't applies to the state.

If it is to focus more on happiness and quality of life, then you don't need fascism as Many countries who either are great to live in, on the path to be great to live in, (UK, France, Spain, Germany, New Zealand, Costa Rica, Netherlands, Italy, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Gabon, US, Brazil, Peru, Colombia, Botswana, Japan, Australia, Thailand, The Philippines, and a decent more) often don't use fascism as a guide or an ideology to be great to live in. While some of the countries did use help or aid from other countries, Most of them did not.

[HISPIDA]

Its the perfect political ideology in my view. Only a strong state and underlying system/hierarchy can accomplish the greater things, if the long term goal is to build out the best empire possible.

What do you mean by "Best empire possible"?

the best empire ever created is the american empire because it's managed to convince most of the world that it isn't one.

[Kenowa]

What do you mean by "Best empire possible"?

the best empire ever created is the american empire because it's managed to convince most of the world that it isn't one.

they literally got an entire continent and the bulk of other to sign treaties that basically say "if I get attacked you come to help me" lmao