Euro Discussion Thread

[Nitrana]

Wait, is this a European cultural thread or what? I’m confused.

It’s FI’s latest white supremacy thread with slightly different wallpaper.

It did seem kinda fishy. I mean, if you are born in a European country, then you are European. The color of your skin doesn’t matter. Being European does not mean being white at all.

[Heloin]

It’s FI’s latest white supremacy thread with slightly different wallpaper.

It did seem kinda fishy. I mean, if you are born in a European country, then you are European. The color of your skin doesn’t matter. Being European does not mean being white at all.

I mean look at his reaction to an English person of Chinese ancestry, it’s all racial supremacy to FI.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

It’s FI’s latest white supremacy thread with slightly different wallpaper.

It did seem kinda fishy. I mean, if you are born in a European country, then you are European. The color of your skin doesn’t matter. Being European does not mean being white at all.

He thinks I’m not European, even though I was born here in Britain.

[Forever Indomitable]

"Euro" is a term for ethnic peoples who originate from Europe, AKA White people. "Euro", like "Asian" or "Jew" can be an ethnic or ethno-cultural descriptor.

So Slovaks, French, Ukrainians and such? Ok, now I understand. Thank you.

No problem.

The notion of euro as one cultural identity shows a lack of understanding of Europe, or cultural identity

Nope, it's a broad meta-identity that can be further divided as needed, especially given Europe's compactness in relation to other larger continents and their corresponding cultures. For example, I had a friend from Taiwan/Japan. He said that while he recognizes that China, Japan and Korea are vastly different individual nations, they are still quintessentially Asian. The same can apply to Europe. We also have a modern convergence to increasing globalization. Black people from Haiti have a concept of meta-Blackness they share with Black people from the US. This is also seen in prison, for another example. Despite desegregation, people naturally convene into their broad racial categories without any sort of geographic autism. Euroness/Whiteness is a modern conception, yes, but it is the convergence of an emerging ethnic consciousness.

[Ethel mermania]

So Slovaks, French, Ukrainians and such? Ok, now I understand. Thank you.

No problem.

The notion of euro as one cultural identity shows a lack of understanding of Europe, or cultural identity

Nope, it's a broad meta-identity that can be further divided as needed, especially given Europe's compactness in relation to other larger continents and their corresponding cultures. For example, I had a friend from Taiwan/Japan. He said that while he recognizes that China, Japan and Korea are vastly different individual nations, they are still quintessentially Asian. The same can apply to Europe. We also have a modern convergence to increasing globalization. Black people from Haiti have a concept of meta-Bis is also seen in prison, for another example. Despite desegregation, people naturally convene into their broad racial categories without any sort of geographic autism. Euroness/Whiteness is a modern conception, yes, but it is the convergence of an emerging ethnic consciousness.

If you call a haitian American or a nigerian American "Afro-American " they will go up your ass on one side and down the other.

[Nitrana]

It did seem kinda fishy. I mean, if you are born in a European country, then you are European. The color of your skin doesn’t matter. Being European does not mean being white at all.

He thinks I’m not European, even though I was born here in Britain.

I can assure you that you are European. You were born in Britain and I do presume you have British citizenship. Skin color, ethnicity and stuff like that doesn’t matter.

[Forever Indomitable]

It did seem kinda fishy. I mean, if you are born in a European country, then you are European. The color of your skin doesn’t matter. Being European does not mean being white at all.

He thinks I’m not European, even though I was born here in Britain.

That's right. Because current geographic location and legalism are arbitrary. You did not evolve from Europe. It did not genetically shape you. Your and the others' assertions are completely arbitrary. If you moved to Nigeria, you would then consider yourself "Nigerian". This is all arbitrary and meaningless. It totally disregards the uniqueness of peoples in favor of superficial cultural consumerism. If what you said was true, Black people in America would be the exactly the same as White people in America, but we're not. Identity is more than just a piece of paper. Your positions are fundamentally illogical, ignorant and arbitrary.

[Free Algerstonia]

americans are infinitely superior to europeans

[Forever Indomitable]

No problem.


Nope, it's a broad meta-identity that can be further divided as needed, especially given Europe's compactness in relation to other larger continents and their corresponding cultures. For example, I had a friend from Taiwan/Japan. He said that while he recognizes that China, Japan and Korea are vastly different individual nations, they are still quintessentially Asian. The same can apply to Europe. We also have a modern convergence to increasing globalization. Black people from Haiti have a concept of meta-Bis is also seen in prison, for another example. Despite desegregation, people naturally convene into their broad racial categories without any sort of geographic autism. Euroness/Whiteness is a modern conception, yes, but it is the convergence of an emerging ethnic consciousness.

If you call a haitian American or a nigerian American "Afro-American " they will go up your ass on one side and down the other.

I know, I grew up with Haitian friends. That's why I don't call them "Afro-American". They are Black, which is what they consider themselves and they likewise identify their meta-origin as African.

[El Lazaro]

> “European” thread
> OP is American

[Port Caverton]

I was expecting a discussion of the EU for some reason.

[Heloin]

I’m just going to go ahead and say every time you say you have a friend of some ethnic group that agrees with your white supremacist world view I think you’re just making them up. I in no way believe these people exist or if they do agree with you or would even describe you as a friend.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

He thinks I’m not European, even though I was born here in Britain.

That's right. Because current geographic location and legalism are arbitrary. You did not evolve from Europe. It did not genetically shape you. Your and the others' assertions are completely arbitrary. If you moved to Nigeria, you would then consider yourself "Nigerian". This is all arbitrary and meaningless. It totally disregards the uniqueness of peoples in favor of superficial cultural consumerism. If what you said was true, Black people in America would be the exactly the same as White people in America, but we're not. Identity is more than just a piece of paper. Your positions are fundamentally illogical, ignorant and arbitrary.

Bit rich from the person who’s dividing people up into arbitrary groups to call other people “ignorant” and “arbitrary”

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

At least Algerstonia is a troll, and you can discount what he says.

[Forever Indomitable]

I’m just going to go ahead and say every time you say you have a friend of some ethnic group that agrees with your white supremacist world view I think you’re just making them up. I in no way believe these people exist or if they do agree with you or would even describe you as a friend.

Well, I'm not a "White supremacist" and agreeing with people on everything is not a prerequisite for me being a friend to them. This may be shocking to you, but not everyone thinks the same as you. It's also humorous that you think you always know and assume how different races and individuals are supposed to act. Damn, people that are different to each other can get along? Not in Heloin's world.

[Juristonia]

Another FI thread with a bunch of racial nonsense thrown in for no apparent reason?

I am shocked.

[Heloin]

I’m just going to go ahead and say every time you say you have a friend of some ethnic group that agrees with your white supremacist world view I think you’re just making them up. I in no way believe these people exist or if they do agree with you or would even describe you as a friend.

Well, I'm not a "White supremacist" and agreeing with people on everything is not a prerequisite for me being a friend to them. This may be shocking to you, but not everyone thinks the same as you. It's also humorous that you think you always know and assume how different races and individuals are supposed to act. Damn, people that are different to each other can get along? Not in Heloin's world.

Cool, I don’t believe anyone gets along with you frankly. You seem rather abrasive and called NGNP a “culture vulture” on just the previous page of this thread.

[Forever Indomitable]

That's right. Because current geographic location and legalism are arbitrary. You did not evolve from Europe. It did not genetically shape you. Your and the others' assertions are completely arbitrary. If you moved to Nigeria, you would then consider yourself "Nigerian". This is all arbitrary and meaningless. It totally disregards the uniqueness of peoples in favor of superficial cultural consumerism. If what you said was true, Black people in America would be the exactly the same as White people in America, but we're not. Identity is more than just a piece of paper. Your positions are fundamentally illogical, ignorant and arbitrary.

Bit rich from the person who’s dividing people up into arbitrary groups to call other people “ignorant” and “arbitrary”

Well, they're not "arbitrary". Black people AKA Africans have identifiable semblance to each other, despite regional differences. Asians (as we normally identify Asians, not including Arabs and such) have identifiable semblance, along with regional variation. You seem to imply natural diversity ("division") is some kind of taboo, which I don't understand. So, yes, your positions are ignorant and arbitrary. We can genetically map and group people. People from continental areas tend to group together, especially the smaller the geographic distance.

[Heloin]

Bit rich from the person who’s dividing people up into arbitrary groups to call other people “ignorant” and “arbitrary”

Well, they're not "arbitrary". Black people AKA Africans have identifiable semblance to each other, despite regional differences. Asians (as we normally identify Asians, not including Arabs and such) have identifiable semblance, along with regional variation. You seem to imply natural diversity ("division") is some kind of taboo, which I don't understand. So, yes, your positions are ignorant and arbitrary. We can genetically map and group people. People from continental areas tend to group together, especially the smaller the geographic distance.

Black Americans are grouped together from a shared history of enslavement and racial discrimination. White Americans are grouped together by a effort to create an in-group out-group effect to help facilitate that racial discrimination. These groupings are ones built on discrimination and white supremacy. The same happened in every other colonial nation to different degrees.

[Forever Indomitable]

Well, I'm not a "White supremacist" and agreeing with people on everything is not a prerequisite for me being a friend to them. This may be shocking to you, but not everyone thinks the same as you. It's also humorous that you think you always know and assume how different races and individuals are supposed to act. Damn, people that are different to each other can get along? Not in Heloin's world.

Cool, I don’t believe anyone gets along with you frankly. You seem rather abrasive and called NGNP a “culture vulture” on just the previous page of this thread.

I can be abrasive, but I also find such egregious ethnic appropriation to be abrasive, as well. What do you want me to say? I don't care what you think about me. You all give me shit because of the color of my skin. If I were Black, Jewish, Asian, Native American or anything else, you would not protest. But, you're all racist and refuse an identity to me based on the color of my skin. Like I said, you all avoid addressing this double standard like the plague.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

Cool, I don’t believe anyone gets along with you frankly. You seem rather abrasive and called NGNP a “culture vulture” on just the previous page of this thread.

I can be abrasive, but I also find such egregious ethnic appropriation to be abrasive, as well. What do you want me to say? I don't care what you think about me. You all give me shit because of the color of my skin. If I were Black, Jewish, Asian, Native American or anything else, you would not protest. But, you're all racist and refuse an identity to me based on the color of my skin. Like I said, you all avoid addressing this double standard like the plague.

We don’t know the colour of your skin…

[Forever Indomitable]

Well, they're not "arbitrary". Black people AKA Africans have identifiable semblance to each other, despite regional differences. Asians (as we normally identify Asians, not including Arabs and such) have identifiable semblance, along with regional variation. You seem to imply natural diversity ("division") is some kind of taboo, which I don't understand. So, yes, your positions are ignorant and arbitrary. We can genetically map and group people. People from continental areas tend to group together, especially the smaller the geographic distance.

Black Americans are grouped together from a shared history of enslavement and racial discrimination.

White Americans are grouped together by a effort to create an in-group out-group effect to help facilitate that racial discrimination. These groupings are ones built on discrimination and white supremacy. The same happened in every other colonial nation to different degrees.

You're mostly right and that's what I want to change. That's the past. I want something different for the future.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

And damn it, when did we say you couldn’t call yourself white? You’re just not European, because you don’t live here

[El Lazaro]

Cool, I don’t believe anyone gets along with you frankly. You seem rather abrasive and called NGNP a “culture vulture” on just the previous page of this thread.

I can be abrasive, but I also find such egregious ethnic appropriation to be abrasive, as well. What do you want me to say? I don't care what you think about me. You all give me shit because of the color of my skin. If I were Black, Jewish, Asian, Native American or anything else, you would not protest. But, you're all racist and refuse an identity to me based on the color of my skin. Like I said, you all avoid addressing this double standard like the plague.

The majority of users on this forum are white. They “give you shit” because you are racist, not because they hate white people.

[Forever Indomitable]

I can be abrasive, but I also find such egregious ethnic appropriation to be abrasive, as well. What do you want me to say? I don't care what you think about me. You all give me shit because of the color of my skin. If I were Black, Jewish, Asian, Native American or anything else, you would not protest. But, you're all racist and refuse an identity to me based on the color of my skin. Like I said, you all avoid addressing this double standard like the plague.

We don’t know the colour of your skin…

I have light olive-ish skin, as is someone descended from blended European ancestry. This is a model who actually has kind of a similar ancestral composition to me and actually looks like she could be related to me:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/bb/ce ... aaaf3c.jpg