American Politics 16: After The Ballooning

[New-Minneapolis]

Lol. By "him", I meant Ron DeSantis. I would vote for Biden if he faced DeSantis, even though I think DeSantis would win with at least 350 electoral votes. He could flip WI, MI, MN, AZ, GA and PA to red.

Yes, I understood what you were saying.

I'm okay with Republicans thinking that I'm not a patriot, I know that I love my Country.

[American Legionaries]

Yes, I understood what you were saying.

I'm okay with Republicans thinking that I'm not a patriot, I know that I love my Country.

Personally I prefer my country to yours. So I guess the feeling is mutual.

[Belgicha]

I'm okay with Republicans thinking that I'm not a patriot, I know that I love my Country.

Personally I prefer my country to yours. So I guess the feeling is mutual.

You're both from the same country and you can both love your country while also wishing it was led a different way.
America isn't perfect, it has a multitude of issues that need solving. But, at the end of the day, it is still one of the best countries in the world, and any sensible person would respect that fact. Patriotism is respecting your country, which need not be connected with it's politics. You can love a country solely for it's people, or it's environment, or it's technology, or it's language or culture.

[American Legionaries]

Personally I prefer my country to yours. So I guess the feeling is mutual.

You're both from the same country and you can both love your country while also wishing it was led a different way.
America isn't perfect, it has a multitude of issues that need solving. But, at the end of the day, it is still one of the best countries in the world, and any sensible person would respect that fact. Patriotism is respecting your country, which need not be connected with it's politics. You can love a country solely for it's people, or it's environment, or it's technology, or it's language or culture.

The respectability of any body of people is impossible to divorce from the way they treat others. And politics are the ultimate reflection of that.

[New-Minneapolis]

I'm okay with Republicans thinking that I'm not a patriot, I know that I love my Country.

Personally I prefer my country to yours. So I guess the feeling is mutual.

I never said that you were not a patriot.

I love the United States, and I'm proud to be an American. If you and other Republicans don't think that I do, I'm okay with that. Just like I'm okay with Christians and Muslims believing that I'm going to burn in hell.

[Belgicha]

You're both from the same country and you can both love your country while also wishing it was led a different way.
America isn't perfect, it has a multitude of issues that need solving. But, at the end of the day, it is still one of the best countries in the world, and any sensible person would respect that fact. Patriotism is respecting your country, which need not be connected with it's politics. You can love a country solely for it's people, or it's environment, or it's technology, or it's language or culture.

The respectability of any body of people is impossible to divorce from the way they treat others. And politics are the ultimate reflection of that.

No. Loving a country is not supporting what a country does, what it's policies are, or who leads it. It can be, sure, but it does not need to be. A country, at near every viewpoint besides the very top, is just an area of land with a bunch of people in it. Thus, you can love it for the land, the people, the culture, the nature, or, yes, the politics.
I love America but not what it's done or is doing. I am still a patriot. America is, besides what the memes say, full of great, nice people and beautiful regions. I'm honored to live there.

[Umeria]

tbh it hasn't been great since the 90's, kinda lost our purpose after the soviets collapsed

Agreed.

The Soviets gave us someone to compete with, an incentive to improve. Now, we think we're objectively the greatest we can ever be, all while infrastructure crumbles and socioeconomic problems are dismissed.

I don't buy that we need the threat of a military opponent. Humanity is capable of doing good even when improving people's lives is the only incentive.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ ... rm-monday/

Walz, Ellison, other Minnesota leaders sworn in for new terms

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Personally I prefer my country to yours. So I guess the feeling is mutual.

I never said that you were not a patriot.

I love the United States, and I'm proud to be an American. If you and other Republicans don't think that I do, I'm okay with that. Just like I'm okay with Christians and Muslims believing that I'm going to burn in hell.

I am not one of those Republicans, I just don't like your Leftist Politics. But I have been called not a Patriot, anti American, Fascist, Traitor, a Right Wing Nut Job, and everything else in a negative way. My fellow Republican Trump supporters, Ron DeSantis supporters and Ronald Reagan supporters too. I know many of us who support all 3. I consider Fascist and Nazis the same thing.

[Neutraligon]

I never said that you were not a patriot.

I love the United States, and I'm proud to be an American. If you and other Republicans don't think that I do, I'm okay with that. Just like I'm okay with Christians and Muslims believing that I'm going to burn in hell.

I am not one of those Republicans, I just don't like your Leftist Politics. But I have been called not a Patriot, anti American, Fascist, Traitor, a Right Wing Nut Job, and everything else in a negative way. My fellow Republican Trump supporters, Ron DeSantis supporters and Ronald Reagan supporters too. I know many of us who support all 3. I consider Fascist and Nazis the same thing.

You are called not a patriot because the things you claim to support are more similar to authoritarian regimes like those of Communist Russia than anything like what the US is supposed to stand for. There is a reason people ask why you are so against Castro since you have supported basically every action he took when it comes to Trump and Republicans.

[San Lumen]

someone said to me that elected officials should be sworn in via private ceremonies, no inaugural address, the public not invited and its not televised. That its a waste of money and not needed.

What do you all think?

[Nora Xent]

someone said to me that elected officials should be sworn in via private ceremonies and with no inaugural address and the public not invited. That its a waste of money and not needed.

What do you all think?

I don't think they should all be completely private.

[San Lumen]

someone said to me that elected officials should be sworn in via private ceremonies and with no inaugural address and the public not invited. That its a waste of money and not needed.

What do you all think?

I don't think they should all be completely private.

Under what circumstances and for which offices should it be private?

[Nora Xent]

I don't think they should all be completely private.

Under what circumstances and for which offices should it be private?

idk if it's on a Sunday or something.

[San Lumen]

Under what circumstances and for which offices should it be private?

idk if it's on a Sunday or something.

um ok. What does being on Sunday have to do with whether to not it should be private?

[Neutraligon]

idk if it's on a Sunday or something.

um ok. What does being on Sunday have to do with whether to not it should be private?

Nothing, particularly since there would be representatives that do not hold Sunday as special due to having a different religion.

[Nora Xent]

idk if it's on a Sunday or something.

um ok. What does being on Sunday have to do with whether to not it should be private?

idk ask all the presidents who held private inaugurations when Jan 20th was on a Sunday before holding the public one on Jan 21st.

[San Lumen]

um ok. What does being on Sunday have to do with whether to not it should be private?

Nothing, particularly since there would be representatives that do not hold Sunday as special due to having a different religion.

ok and what do you think of my question? Should they be public or completely private with no inaugural address, its not televised, the public not invited and kept as simple as possible as this person suggested to me?

[Neutraligon]

Nothing, particularly since there would be representatives that do not hold Sunday as special due to having a different religion.

ok and what do you think of my question? Should they be public or completely private with no inaugural address, its not televised, the public not invited and kept as simple as possible as this person suggested to me?

I believe it should be a simple thing where each Congressperson is brought forward to swear in and it is broadcast. The public can watch like they can any other session. Nothing else is done, no extra money is spent. The first day of the new Congress should essentially be the day everyone swears in. That and nothing else should be the order of business.

[San Lumen]

ok and what do you think of my question? Should they be public or completely private with no inaugural address, its not televised, the public not invited and kept as simple as possible as this person suggested to me?

I believe it should be a simple thing where each Congressperson is brought forward to swear in and it is broadcast. The public can watch like they can any other session. Nothing else is done.

Congress is sworn in as a whole if Im not mistaken. The individual oaths you see are merely for publicity.

What about statewide and municipal officials?

[Neutraligon]

I believe it should be a simple thing where each Congressperson is brought forward to swear in and it is broadcast. The public can watch like they can any other session. Nothing else is done.

What about statewide and city officials?

Why should those be any different? First day everyone is sworn in and it is broadcast in the local news rather than across the nation.

[San Lumen]

What about statewide and city officials?

Why should those be any different? First day everyone is sworn in and it is broadcast in the local news rather than across the nation.

statewide swearing in and local ones are usually only broadcast on local news. It would be highly unusual for a national news outlet to broadcast a gubernatorial or municipal inauguration.

[Neutraligon]

Why should those be any different? First day everyone is sworn in and it is broadcast in the local news rather than across the nation.

statewide swearing in and local ones are usually only broadcast on local news. It would be highly unusual for a national news outlet to broadcast a gubernatorial or municipal inauguration.

Yes...I am confused why you are saying this in response to my comment. I was not saying that those local things are now broadcast across the nation, I was comparing to what is done for Congress, which is broadcast across the nation.

[San Lumen]

statewide swearing in and local ones are usually only broadcast on local news. It would be highly unusual for a national news outlet to broadcast a gubernatorial or municipal inauguration.

Yes...I am confused why you are saying this in response to my comment. I was not saying that those local things are now broadcast across the nation, I was comparing to what is done for Congress, which is broadcast across the nation.

Why shouldn't that be converted nationally?

You have not answered my question.

What do you think should be done for municipal and state inaugurations? Do you agree with the statement if should consist solely of being sworn in privately with no pomp and circumstance, its not televised and the public and honored guests are not invited?

[Neutraligon]

Yes...I am confused why you are saying this in response to my comment. I was not saying that those local things are now broadcast across the nation, I was comparing to what is done for Congress, which is broadcast across the nation.

Why shouldn't that be converted nationally?

You have not answered my question.

What do you think should be done for municipal and state inaugurations? Do you agree with the statement if should consist solely of being sworn in privately with no pomp and circumstance, its not televised and the public and honored guests are not invited?

I have answered your question, that I see no reason why local-level stuff should not be treated the same way I described how I think national-level stuff should be treated, the only difference is that local-level stuff would be reported locally.

The way I described national level stuff is that the new Congress is sworn in for the first day, that is it, no pomp no speeches, the only thing that happens is they are sworn in. This is broadcast the same way all things are broadcast because every day Congress is in session is already broadcast.The public can watch the same way every other day of Congress is watched.