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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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Mountains and Volcanoes
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Flags & Symbolism: An Americans Weaknesses!

Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:04 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Celr: Brings Up Flags
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Yes, because the Wisconsin state flag is generic and boring. My flag has had a redesign but I CBA changing it.
Out of curiosity: Is it the same as your NS Flag? (Also, CBA?)
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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Yes, because the Wisconsin state flag is generic and boring.
My flag has had a redesign but I CBA changing it.


I have to agree with you. The Oregon flag is very similar.

Tell them to change their damn flag then. We came first, and are just as obscure as them!
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:06 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I have to agree with you. The Oregon flag is very similar.

Tell them to change their damn flag then. We came first, and are just as obscure as them!


Why don't you since you reside there?

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:08 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Celritannia wrote:Yes, because the Wisconsin state flag is generic and boring. My flag has had a redesign but I CBA changing it.
Out of curiosity: Is it the same as your NS Flag? (Also, CBA?)

The UK flag is a nice design.
I was just referring to my flag, but I digress :P

A lot of US state flags need a redesign.

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Tell them to change their damn flag then. We came first, and are just as obscure as them!


Why don't you since you reside there?

We're going to war with Oregon over flags. It's settled.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:10 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Based.
Celritannia wrote:Excellent.
I mean...err... based, yeah, based.
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Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.


I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.

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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.
I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.
NERD!

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.
NERD!


We stan LaFollette in this house.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:13 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Based.
Celritannia wrote:Excellent.
I mean...err... based, yeah, based.
Hispida wrote:based.... so fucking vased...

Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.


Wisconsin? Isn’t that what they call the projects in Minnesota?
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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:13 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.


I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.

The Hell is he?
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:15 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.

The Hell is he?


The former governor of your state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:15 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.


I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.


who?

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.


Wisconsin? Isn’t that what they call the projects in Minnesota?

OOOOOh that's a mistake. A blunder. A tactical flaw. Minnesota thinks that they're good. "Land of 10000 lakes" "Home of the Vikings" "associated stupid stuff"
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So like you know when you walk into an debate thinking you're gonna beat this guys ass verbally and then walk out realising you're an idiot? Yeah that'd never be me.
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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:16 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:The Hell is he?


The former governor of your state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette

Ew. History.
Daily smartman things occasionally.

So like you know when you walk into an debate thinking you're gonna beat this guys ass verbally and then walk out realising you're an idiot? Yeah that'd never be me.
human of the american male variety
Would be a republican if trump didn't feel like existing and being himself, now tends to be more of a democrat-centrist dude
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catholic. god imagine being catholic it would suck so much
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I’ve heard of Wisconsin before. America’s Dairyland home of Robert M. LaFollette.


who?


Become Enlightened: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette

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Overly Designed: Flags & Seals!

Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:17 pm

Celritannia wrote:A lot of US state flags need a redesign.
Practically, all of them!
  • (Over-designed to meaninglessness)
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:17 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:The Hell is he?


The former governor of your state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette


the current Secretary of State Doug La Follette who was reelected last year to a unprecedented 12th term is distantly related to him. How is a matter of contention.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:17 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The former governor of your state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette

Ew. History.


He was a Progressive era politician with left wing support.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The former governor of your state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette


the current Secretary of State Doug La Follette who was reelected last year to a unprecedented 12th term is distantly related to him. How is a matter of contention.


Awesome.

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The former governor of your state: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette


the current Secretary of State Doug La Follette who was reelected last year to a unprecedented 12th term is distantly related to him. How is a matter of contention.

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So like you know when you walk into an debate thinking you're gonna beat this guys ass verbally and then walk out realising you're an idiot? Yeah that'd never be me.
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Would be a republican if trump didn't feel like existing and being himself, now tends to be more of a democrat-centrist dude
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Postby Corrian » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:19 pm

Ignoring the literal shit show for the first 3-4 days, Republicans priorities are already garbage. As we expected. And almost no "moderate" Republican gave one shit that the rules package catered to the far-right. This is going to be a fun disaster of a Congress.

But of course people voted for them, anyway, even though this shit show would have been obvious to literally anyone who actually payed attention for 5 seconds. Get what you deserve.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:21 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Based.
Celritannia wrote:Excellent.
I mean...err... based, yeah, based.
Hispida wrote:based.... so fucking vased...

Bruh don't lie to me none of you have ever heard of wisconsin until today, cause I live here and forget it exists.

On Wisconsin, go Wisconsin somethingsomethingsomething...

Aside for a brief bit of pretendy pride over whose cheese was better with a friend who had moved out from Wisconsin, stealing 'On Wisconsin' as my high school's fight song is my primary interaction with Wisconsin.

From my friend I was led to believe that the post frost grass is the secret to good cheese, not happy cows.

I wonder how specific that reference is...
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Postby Eahland » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:23 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I have to agree with you. The Oregon flag is very similar.

Tell them to change their damn flag then. We came first, and are just as obscure as them!

I think Connecticut has seniority in the woeful "state seal on a blue bedsheet" genre.
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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:26 pm

Eahland wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Tell them to change their damn flag then. We came first, and are just as obscure as them!

I think Connecticut has seniority in the woeful "state seal on a blue bedsheet" genre.

See but they're small. We can take them, definitely. First we go after the small guy, then we scare the State of Portland into changing their state flag.
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So like you know when you walk into an debate thinking you're gonna beat this guys ass verbally and then walk out realising you're an idiot? Yeah that'd never be me.
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Would be a republican if trump didn't feel like existing and being himself, now tends to be more of a democrat-centrist dude
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:26 pm

Platoon of Peace wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
I meant to get a better state flag, then people will recognise Wisconsin from the other blue banners and seals

They probably also spent a grand total of 5 minutes on a different flag making website.

Probably spent all their time on the seal and then someone came in and said "Okay, now make a flag" and they were all "The fuck? Just put the seal on a banner, we're out." And they were all "You can't just put the seal on there" and on out the door they went, "Fine, put the name of the state and the date it became one on it..."
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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