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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:16 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Plus Biden already saying he has no idea how it got there which is implying he might very well have never seen this documents.


The crackhead on Cops said he didn't know how the drugs got into his coat pocket.

True but Biden legitimately might have no idea how they got there, especially given his mental capability
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:17 pm

Nora Xent wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And your reasoning is?

You do realize that the GOTV campaign she ran helped make those victories a reality.

She’s a terrible candidate but she’s a great community organizer

the democrats in 2020 developed and used completely different strategies than what Abrams used in 2018 and 2022.

That doesn’t discount the fact that she ran a very good GOTV campaign.

You are comparing her political campaigns with a community organization campaign. They aren’t the same.
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Postby Nora Xent » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:19 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:the democrats in 2020 developed and used completely different strategies than what Abrams used in 2018 and 2022.

That doesn’t discount the fact that she ran a very good GOTV campaign.

You are comparing her political campaigns with a community organization campaign. They aren’t the same.

The black vote was down in 2020 compared to 2018 and was less democratic than in 2016, So if she's a good community organizer and you want to know why biden won? because of college-educated whites.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:21 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:So it appears classified documents were found in an office of VP Biden.

Less then a dozen. Lawyers immediately notified the archives. This article said a couple were SCI level. I have seen one report saying what they were are not known at the moment.

A review should be performed of course especially the SCI and the sensitivity of the information.

Even though Biden’s people are doing the “right” thing by cooperating. This is a massive political gift for the republicans. They will be making noise of it being the same as the situation with Trump. They are not:

* Trumps people never reported, fought requests for the return of documents, denied, and stonewalled. Biden’s people reached out after finding them.
* 325 documents with SCI and special programs versus less the 12 with maybe an SCI level doc.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics ... index.html


-edit-

Oh it’s already begun. That Donalds guy was on with the pho-rage.

* A vp doesn’t have access to classified.
* I want to point out to the American people that it TOOK 6 YEARS for this to be noticed.
* Trump’s situation is different and didn’t do anything wrong.
* Already talking about many investigations for biden.

The 6 years thing is a valid question. Without knowing what they were; it could be not as sensitive as all the documents Trump took.

We shall see.

Still this is going to be a shit show for the faithful base.

GMS: What to do I always say about Politics? In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, it works both ways.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:24 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So it appears classified documents were found in an office of VP Biden.

Less then a dozen. Lawyers immediately notified the archives. This article said a couple were SCI level. I have seen one report saying what they were are not known at the moment.

A review should be performed of course especially the SCI and the sensitivity of the information.

Even though Biden’s people are doing the “right” thing by cooperating. This is a massive political gift for the republicans. They will be making noise of it being the same as the situation with Trump. They are not:

* Trumps people never reported, fought requests for the return of documents, denied, and stonewalled. Biden’s people reached out after finding them.
* 325 documents with SCI and special programs versus less the 12 with maybe an SCI level doc.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics ... index.html


-edit-

Oh it’s already begun. That Donalds guy was on with the pho-rage.

* A vp doesn’t have access to classified.
* I want to point out to the American people that it TOOK 6 YEARS for this to be noticed.
* Trump’s situation is different and didn’t do anything wrong.
* Already talking about many investigations for biden.

The 6 years thing is a valid question. Without knowing what they were; it could be not as sensitive as all the documents Trump took.

We shall see.

Still this is going to be a shit show for the faithful base.

GMS: What to do I always say about Politics? In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, it works both ways.

PoP: what do I always say? Well aside from that I am beyond a shadow of the doubt the best damn person out there, I say Trump was a lot worse in his stuffs. That doesn't excuse this, but it's something worth considering.
Daily smartman things occasionally.

So like you know when you walk into an debate thinking you're gonna beat this guys ass verbally and then walk out realising you're an idiot? Yeah that'd never be me.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:24 pm

Nora Xent wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:That doesn’t discount the fact that she ran a very good GOTV campaign.

You are comparing her political campaigns with a community organization campaign. They aren’t the same.

The black vote was down in 2020 compared to 2018 and was less democratic than in 2016, So if she's a good community organizer and you want to know why biden won? because of college-educated whites.

GOTV campaigns don’t just focus on black people ya know. She helped but she never should have run for office
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Click for Da Funies

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So it appears classified documents were found in an office of VP Biden.

Less then a dozen. Lawyers immediately notified the archives. This article said a couple were SCI level. I have seen one report saying what they were are not known at the moment.

A review should be performed of course especially the SCI and the sensitivity of the information.

Even though Biden’s people are doing the “right” thing by cooperating. This is a massive political gift for the republicans. They will be making noise of it being the same as the situation with Trump. They are not:

* Trumps people never reported, fought requests for the return of documents, denied, and stonewalled. Biden’s people reached out after finding them.
* 325 documents with SCI and special programs versus less the 12 with maybe an SCI level doc.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics ... index.html


-edit-

Oh it’s already begun. That Donalds guy was on with the pho-rage.

* A vp doesn’t have access to classified.
* I want to point out to the American people that it TOOK 6 YEARS for this to be noticed.
* Trump’s situation is different and didn’t do anything wrong.
* Already talking about many investigations for biden.

The 6 years thing is a valid question. Without knowing what they were; it could be not as sensitive as all the documents Trump took.

We shall see.

Still this is going to be a shit show for the faithful base.

GMS: What to do I always say about Politics? In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, it works both ways.


Investigate both of them.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:27 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:Investigate both of them.

one day you will learn to no longer enable gms's idolatry... one day...

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:31 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:Investigate both of them.

one day you will learn to no longer enable gms's idolatry... one day...


But not today.

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Postby Khurkhogur » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:34 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So it appears classified documents were found in an office of VP Biden.
Less then a dozen. Lawyers immediately notified the archives. This article said a couple were SCI level. I have seen one report saying what they were are not known at the moment.
A review should be performed of course especially the SCI and the sensitivity of the information.
Even though Biden’s people are doing the “right” thing by cooperating. This is a massive political gift for the republicans. They will be making noise of it being the same as the situation with Trump. They are not:
* Trumps people never reported, fought requests for the return of documents, denied, and stonewalled. Biden’s people reached out after finding them.
* 325 documents with SCI and special programs versus less the 12 with maybe an SCI level doc.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics ... index.html
-edit-
Oh it’s already begun. That Donalds guy was on with the pho-rage.
* A vp doesn’t have access to classified.
* I want to point out to the American people that it TOOK 6 YEARS for this to be noticed.
* Trump’s situation is different and didn’t do anything wrong.
* Already talking about many investigations for biden.
The 6 years thing is a valid question. Without knowing what they were; it could be not as sensitive as all the documents Trump took.
We shall see.
Still this is going to be a shit show for the faithful base.

GMS: What to do I always say about Politics? In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, it works both ways.

You have wisdom beyond your years
Sage, sage words
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:36 pm

Khurkhogur wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:GMS: What to do I always say about Politics? In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, it works both ways.

You have wisdom beyond your years
Sage, sage words

he says that bloody phrase 24/7/365 lol... to the point that you could probs find ten thousand references just by putting "both ways" into Search.

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Postby Khurkhogur » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:38 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Khurkhogur wrote:You have wisdom beyond your years
Sage, sage words

he says that bloody phrase 24/7/365 lol... to the point that you could probs find ten thousand references just by putting "both ways" into Search.

has it occurred to you that maybe I was being just a little flippant
a tad facetious
a bit goofy
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:38 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Khurkhogur wrote:You have wisdom beyond your years
Sage, sage words

he says that bloody phrase 24/7/365 lol... to the point that you could probs find ten thousand references just by putting "both ways" into Search.

He has said "Both ways" 135 times on that account.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:41 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:he says that bloody phrase 24/7/365 lol... to the point that you could probs find ten thousand references just by putting "both ways" into Search.

He has said "Both ways" 135 times on that account.


Try finding it on the other 226 accounts.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:44 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Khurkhogur wrote:You have wisdom beyond your years
Sage, sage words

he says that bloody phrase 24/7/365 lol... to the point that you could probs find ten thousand references just by putting "both ways" into Search.

GMS: Because it Fits and Because it's a Fact, In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, your way, it works both ways. I GMS coined $ this Phrase on NS. I also Coined $ a few other Phrases on NS.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:47 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:he says that bloody phrase 24/7/365 lol... to the point that you could probs find ten thousand references just by putting "both ways" into Search.

He has said "Both ways" 135 times on that account.

GMS: Because it Fits. I just Coined $ another Phrase on NS Because it Fits.
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I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby Khurkhogur » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:48 pm

Based and correct GMS 3
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:03 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Plus Biden already saying he has no idea how it got there which is implying he might very well have never seen this documents.


The crackhead on Cops said he didn't know how the drugs got into his coat pocket.


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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Yes, it would. And from what we've seen Biden's cooperating fully so far.


Plus Biden already saying he has no idea how it got there which is implying he might very well have never seen this documents.

So you guys believe Biden?
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:08 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Plus Biden already saying he has no idea how it got there which is implying he might very well have never seen this documents.

So you guys believe Biden?

if your idol lies as easily as he draws breath people tend to come to certain conclusions...
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:11 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So it appears classified documents were found in an office of VP Biden.

Less then a dozen. Lawyers immediately notified the archives. This article said a couple were SCI level. I have seen one report saying what they were are not known at the moment.

A review should be performed of course especially the SCI and the sensitivity of the information.

Even though Biden’s people are doing the “right” thing by cooperating. This is a massive political gift for the republicans. They will be making noise of it being the same as the situation with Trump. They are not:

* Trumps people never reported, fought requests for the return of documents, denied, and stonewalled. Biden’s people reached out after finding them.
* 325 documents with SCI and special programs versus less the 12 with maybe an SCI level doc.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics ... index.html


-edit-

Oh it’s already begun. That Donalds guy was on with the pho-rage.

* A vp doesn’t have access to classified.
* I want to point out to the American people that it TOOK 6 YEARS for this to be noticed.
* Trump’s situation is different and didn’t do anything wrong.
* Already talking about many investigations for biden.

The 6 years thing is a valid question. Without knowing what they were; it could be not as sensitive as all the documents Trump took.

We shall see.

Still this is going to be a shit show for the faithful base.

GMS: What to do I always say about Politics? In Politics everything works both ways, not just one way, it works both ways.


Did you have a point?

Your boy took 300ish documents. Documents of SCI and special programs. The kind of intel which involves people on the ground. He and his people ignored requests, lied about having more and stonewalled and eventually got raided.

Biden has less then 12 and maybe one or two SCI docs. Waiting on for more info. His people reported having them and is cooperating with the archives.

Declaring them the same and works both ways is fucking stupid beyond imagination.

Should the incident be investigated? Yes.
Should there be an evaluation on the sensitivity? Yes.
Should there be questions on how they were missed? Yes.

One question I would like answered? Where were they stored? If in a safe; this problem is not as bad as trump. Trump stored documents in a closet and an offsite storage.

I already know if it’s found not to be bad; you will complain about it.
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* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:11 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:So you guys believe Biden?

if your idol lies as easily as he draws breath people tend to come to certain conclusions...

But he doesn't.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:12 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Plus Biden already saying he has no idea how it got there which is implying he might very well have never seen this documents.

So you guys believe Biden?

I believe that this deserves an investigation. That said, Biden hasn't done anything fully worth my large amount of skepticism, whilst trump has.
Daily smartman things occasionally.

So like you know when you walk into an debate thinking you're gonna beat this guys ass verbally and then walk out realising you're an idiot? Yeah that'd never be me.
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Would be a republican if trump didn't feel like existing and being himself, now tends to be more of a democrat-centrist dude
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:12 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Your boy took 300ish documents. Documents of SCI and special programs. The kind of intel which involves people on the ground. He and his people ignored requests, lied about having more and stonewalled and eventually got raided.

never mind that djt wanted to put that shit on public display as some sort of trophy

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:15 pm

Elwher wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:are you proposing that people arrested on serious suspicions of violent crime should be left to their own devices at large while trial awaits?


I am. They are innocent until proven guilty, and innocent people should not be incarcerated. The only exception should be if they have demonstrated their being a flight risk by not appearing for a previous required court date.

So no more power of arrest for cops. Cool.

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