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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
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13%
Ron DeSantis
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14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:15 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:That is so sad I hope the teacher survives and the boy and class get therapy.

Therapy? You know there is a prosecutor out their just chomping at the bit to prosecute this kid. If what’s his face in Michigan is any example, I suspect the parents will be doing some serious time over this….


Depends on the legal age of criminal intent in this state is.
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:25 am

Celritannia wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Therapy? You know there is a prosecutor out their just chomping at the bit to prosecute this kid. If what’s his face in Michigan is any example, I suspect the parents will be doing some serious time over this….


Depends on the legal age of criminal intent in this state is.

The article says they can’t be prosecuted
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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:47 am

Glad we got to watch the House jerk itself off for a week, now we can get into the real business of two years of absolutely sweet fuck all being done for us.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:49 am

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"Trump is done" the six-year void echoed, on and on, into eternity.


Indeed. How long have we listened about Ron Paul?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:51 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:That is so sad I hope the teacher survives and the boy and class get therapy.

Therapy? You know there is a prosecutor out their just chomping at the bit to prosecute this kid. If what’s his face in Michigan is any example, I suspect the parents will be doing some serious time over this….


That almost reads like you feel sorry for the kid and the parents?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:54 am

Kannap wrote:Glad we got to watch the House jerk itself off for a week, now we can get into the real business of two years of absolutely sweet fuck all being done for us.

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Oh don’t worry. They are looking out for us by having 52 investigations of Hunter Bidens laptop. They won’t find anything as he is too tricky.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:13 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kannap wrote:Glad we got to watch the House jerk itself off for a week, now we can get into the real business of two years of absolutely sweet fuck all being done for us.

Love living in the US of A, best country in this whole solar system baby


Oh don’t worry. They are looking out for us by having 52 investigations of Hunter Bidens laptop. They won’t find anything as he is too tricky.

You mean the investigations they did 3 years ago, when Trump had possession of it for over a year?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:21 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Oh don’t worry. They are looking out for us by having 52 investigations of Hunter Bidens laptop. They won’t find anything as he is too tricky.

You mean the investigations they did 3 years ago, when Trump had possession of it for over a year?

obviously we need 365 more because who knows
there might be an infinitesimally small speck of dust "proving" all their allegations... whatever those are nowadays...
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Postby Galiantus III » Sat Jan 07, 2023 1:43 pm

Eahland wrote:My sister's a teacher in Virginia — fortunately not in Newport News. Her school has been having major, major problems with student behavior since the return to in-person schooling, with kids making death threats against teachers and other students and engaging in conspiracies in an effort to get teachers they've taken a dislike to fired. I suspect Youngkin and other Republicans' attacks on educators are at least partially responsible.


It couldn't possibly have anything to do with unnecessarily locking the kids indoors for a whole year when they would have otherwise been making significant social development? :roll:

The paranoia over children as if they're suddenly conspiring to be far-right terrorists is funny though. I'll give ya that. I guess it's only natural the people with an irrational and genocidal fear of babies would also fear children.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:09 pm

Eahland wrote:My sister's a teacher in Virginia — fortunately not in Newport News. Her school has been having major, major problems with student behavior since the return to in-person schooling, with kids making death threats against teachers and other students and engaging in conspiracies in an effort to get teachers they've taken a dislike to fired. I suspect Youngkin and other Republicans' attacks on educators are at least partially responsible.


Given that we have the same issues here, I doubt Youngkin has played a significant part. It was likely just the massive disruption of Covid. Kids are behind, so they're getting pressures to catch up. And they're showing behavioral issues as a result.

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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:59 pm

Galiantus III wrote:
Eahland wrote:My sister's a teacher in Virginia — fortunately not in Newport News. Her school has been having major, major problems with student behavior since the return to in-person schooling, with kids making death threats against teachers and other students and engaging in conspiracies in an effort to get teachers they've taken a dislike to fired. I suspect Youngkin and other Republicans' attacks on educators are at least partially responsible.


It couldn't possibly have anything to do with unnecessarily locking the kids indoors for a whole year when they would have otherwise been making significant social development? :roll:


it would totally have been better to leave them in schools and have them get a mentally and physically debilitating disease several times per year. right.

The paranoia over children as if they're suddenly conspiring to be far-right terrorists is funny though. I'll give ya that. I guess it's only natural the people with an irrational and genocidal fear of babies would also fear children.


it’s not a fear, it’s not genocide, it’s not irrational, and extrapolating one person’s concerns into “all leftists fear children” is either dishonest or fucking stupid.
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Postby Bombadil » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:22 pm

Galiantus III wrote:
Eahland wrote:My sister's a teacher in Virginia — fortunately not in Newport News. Her school has been having major, major problems with student behavior since the return to in-person schooling, with kids making death threats against teachers and other students and engaging in conspiracies in an effort to get teachers they've taken a dislike to fired. I suspect Youngkin and other Republicans' attacks on educators are at least partially responsible.


It couldn't possibly have anything to do with unnecessarily locking the kids indoors for a whole year when they would have otherwise been making significant social development? :roll:


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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:37 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Eahland wrote:My sister's a teacher in Virginia — fortunately not in Newport News. Her school has been having major, major problems with student behavior since the return to in-person schooling, with kids making death threats against teachers and other students and engaging in conspiracies in an effort to get teachers they've taken a dislike to fired. I suspect Youngkin and other Republicans' attacks on educators are at least partially responsible.


Given that we have the same issues here, I doubt Youngkin has played a significant part. It was likely just the massive disruption of Covid. Kids are behind, so they're getting pressures to catch up. And they're showing behavioral issues as a result.


Oh yes, my sister is also a teacher, and these children are absolute monsters. But I doubt Republican lawmakers have anything to do about it. Social media might though. Being a child on social media seems to be like getting screamed at every day to be a psycochotic Nazi. There was actually a big problem with the boys of the school being fans of Andrew Tate.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:54 pm

A grand jury voted not to indict a man charged with throwing a can of White Claw at Ted Cruz.

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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:A grand jury voted not to indict a man charged with throwing a can of White Claw at Ted Cruz.

The ancient wisdom has been proven true. Ain't no laws when you're drinkin' claws.

I mean
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:38 pm

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
Ifreann wrote:A grand jury voted not to indict a man charged with throwing a can of White Claw at Ted Cruz.

The ancient wisdom has been proven true. Ain't no laws when you're drinkin' claws.

I mean
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:05 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Oh don’t worry. They are looking out for us by having 52 investigations of Hunter Bidens laptop. They won’t find anything as he is too tricky.
You mean the investigations they did 3 years ago, when Trump had possession of it for over a year?
No wonder, Republicans don’t want Trump, he’s a walking debt trap!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:17 pm

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So they didn’t go after wealthy people? Strange. I knew a guy in the investigations group and he said their favorite people were wealthy people.

Still cutting down taxes is not going to jumpstart the economy. Not where 87K investigators are concerned. Then again it is the party which likes to spout the platitudes of the free market and trickle down.

Oh well time will tell I guess.

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Nope, they passed a rule saying sites like ebay, esty and airbnb have to report people who make more then $700, and you need to report this income,

I'm sure the people doing the investigations love going after the wealthy, but that's not what the resources are for. They're for crushing side gigs with compliance costs to push people back into the job market.


I did find a few comments about their effort was indeed against the lower classes and not much effort done on wealthy class.

So yea..it sounds like a good move. Probably paid far more in expenses then income generated…..
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:19 pm

Ifreann wrote:A grand jury voted not to indict a man charged with throwing a can of White Claw at Ted Cruz.

The ancient wisdom has been proven true. Ain't no laws when you're drinkin' claws.


I'm not a fan of throwing stuff at politicians. Why not cuss them out instead?
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:23 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:A grand jury voted not to indict a man charged with throwing a can of White Claw at Ted Cruz.

The ancient wisdom has been proven true. Ain't no laws when you're drinkin' claws.


I'm not a fan of throwing stuff at politicians. Why not cuss them out instead?


Because no one remembers the random people that cussed out George Bush. Everyone remembers the time someone threw a shoe at him.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:26 pm

The man in question was throwing the White Claw to Ted Cruz, as he tells it. He's a supporter of Cruz.

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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:26 pm

Rusozak wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:I'm not a fan of throwing stuff at politicians. Why not cuss them out instead?
Because no one remembers the random people that cussed out George Bush. Everyone remembers the time someone threw a shoe at him.
Wish that continued... it would make politics more fun!

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:06 pm

Rusozak wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
I'm not a fan of throwing stuff at politicians. Why not cuss them out instead?


Because no one remembers the random people that cussed out George Bush. Everyone remembers the time someone threw a shoe at him.


Yeah, but telling a politician to fuck themselves get attention too.
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Postby Hispida » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:14 pm

Rusozak wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
I'm not a fan of throwing stuff at politicians. Why not cuss them out instead?


Because no one remembers the random people that cussed out George Bush. Everyone remembers the time someone threw a shoe at him.

he's still active on twitter.
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Postby Nora Xent » Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:18 pm

Hispida wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
Because no one remembers the random people that cussed out George Bush. Everyone remembers the time someone threw a shoe at him.

he's still active on twitter.

he still thanks people for wishing him a happy birthday.

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