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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:38 pm

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Ifreann wrote:If you believe that Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose then no action on the part of Chauvin killed him, and thus Chauvin cannot possibly be guilty of manslaughter. But also you believe that Chauvin did criminally kill Floyd and is guilty of manslaughter.

Just stop fucking lying. Just stop. You're not fucking running for office or anything, you're not going to cost Republicans the House, just drop this fucking double talk and tell us what you really fucking believe.


But Chauvin's actions surely justify a punishment. If you endanger someone, you deserve to be punished, regardless if they immediately die of something else.

Manslaughter is, generally, the illegal killing of a person without malice aforethought. You cannot be guilty of manslaughter if something else killed the person. You have to have killed them to be guilty of illegally killing them.

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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:38 pm

Damn it I'm not gonna sit through this again. See y'all later.
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:39 pm

I think C-span should have control of the cameras, this has been so much more interesting with them controlling the cameras.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:39 pm

Hispida wrote:well, it's groundhog day... again.


There is no way that this vote is ever going to end as long as Gaetz keeps seeing his shadow. I don't see any other way out. He's got to be stopped. And I have to stop him.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:40 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Big Bad Blue wrote:McCarthy votes no on adjournment, proceeding to 15th vote, he thinks he has it...he thought so last time...


Well, Gaetz did come up to and talked to him. And that's when he changed his vote to "no". I suspect he'll have it now.

They'll get that rabbit out of the hat eventually.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:41 pm

This is just pure insanity at this point. These six are embarrassing and if I was in congress I’d chastise them on the house floor and insult them.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:41 pm

NOw they're chanting 'one more time'...oof.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:42 pm

Chanting one more time. This has been insanity.
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Postby Big Bad Blue » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:42 pm

So what will take longer, Republicans electing a Speaker on the 16th ballot, swearing everyone in and passing a rules package that guts the Speaker like a deer; or Congress certifying the electoral vote after an insurrectionist president unleashed a violent armed mob on them exactly two years ago? New poll needed...
"...the Republican strategy of disenfranchisement is a state-by-state strategy. It looks like judicial rule where they cannot win. Where they cannot win by judicial rule, they will rule by procedural theft. Where they cannot convince voters to vote for them, they will convince the candidate they voted for to become one of them." - Tressie McMillan Cottom | "...now you have someone sitting on top of the personal data of several billion users, someone who has a long track record of vindictive harassment, someone who has the ear of the far right, and someone who has just shown us his willingness to weaponize internal company data to score political points. That scares me a lot." -- Marcus Hutchins*
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:42 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Big Bad Blue wrote:McCarthy votes no on adjournment, proceeding to 15th vote, he thinks he has it...he thought so last time...


Well, Gaetz did come up to and talked to him. And that's when he changed his vote to "no". I suspect he'll have it now.


I don’t trust him at all.
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Postby Bombadil » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:43 pm

Celritannia wrote:McCarthy may get it this time with how the adjournment vote is going.


Frankly I’d be dying of embarrassment if I was him, to be so pathetic and desperate to have conceded as much as he has and lost 15 times.. what a sad little individual he is.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:43 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:So what will take longer, Republicans electing a Speaker on the 16th ballot, swearing everyone in and passing a rules package that guts the Speaker like a deer; or Congress certifying the electoral vote after an insurrectionist president unleashed a violent armed mob on them exactly two years ago? New poll needed...

Well, this has already taken way longer. When are you starting the clock?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Shermania
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Postby Shermania » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:44 pm

For fucks sake. They should just draw straws or something.
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Postby Hispida » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:44 pm

ONE MORE TIME
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:46 pm

Man, you can hear the frustration this time during the 'on what matter do you rise'...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Shermania
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Postby Shermania » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:46 pm

Hispida wrote:ONE MORE TIME

Oh baby baby.
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Postby Eahland » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:47 pm

I'm going to laugh and laugh and laugh if they fuck this up again.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:48 pm

It looks like dude grabbing a handful of face is going to be the dominant image even after McCarthy is voted in (which at this point has to be inevitable, just tedious.

That's going to be the look for the Republicans, couldn't get their shit together for a week and ended up physically constraining a member. Off to a good start, guys...
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:51 pm

So it begins.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:51 pm

Just the two this time?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:54 pm

after 15 votes, and Kevin finally gets the long-awaited speakership he so desperately wanted his entire life.
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Postby Big Bad Blue » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:56 pm

Nora Xent wrote:after 15 votes, and Kevin finally gets the long-awaited speakership he so desperately wanted his entire life.


...by giving away so much that what's left isn't worth a bucket of warm shit. Enjoy, Kevin.
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:57 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:after 15 votes, and Kevin finally gets the long-awaited speakership he so desperately wanted his entire life.


...by giving away so much that what's left isn't worth a bucket of warm shit. Enjoy, Kevin.

It does not matter to him. He only WANTS to be speaker even if he's powerless and removed after a few weeks.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:58 pm

Nora Xent wrote:
Big Bad Blue wrote:
...by giving away so much that what's left isn't worth a bucket of warm shit. Enjoy, Kevin.

It does not matter to him. He only WANTS to be speaker even if he's powerless and removed after a few weeks.

funniest outcome
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:59 pm

3 Present votes this time, so 216 votes needed?
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