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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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Postby Perikuresu » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:02 pm

Assuming 216 votes was needed, I think McCarthy will win the speaker vote if he gets one more vote
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:03 pm

Nora Xent wrote:Projection: Kevin McCarthy will become speaker of the house.

never mind? turns out he needed one more yes?

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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:03 pm

Picairn wrote:McCarthy is elected it seems.
Finally an end (to this nonsense)!

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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:04 pm

Wait what, where is the final vote?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:04 pm

Talkie McFace guy is suggesting that the math isn't adding up, they needed Gaetz to vote McCarthy, not present.
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Postby Eahland » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:04 pm

Nope. Looks like 216/432, which is exactly half. Not a win.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:05 pm

Nora Xent wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:Projection: Kevin McCarthy will become speaker of the house.

never mind? turns out he needed one more yes?


I think he does, and he's livid right now. I think he just lost again.
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:05 pm

Nora Xent wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:Projection: Kevin McCarthy will become speaker of the house.

never mind? turns out he needed one more yes?

never never mind? Turns out a dem not voting caused this to happen but than voted?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:05 pm

WORLDSTAR!
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:06 pm

Eahland wrote:Nope. Looks like 216/432, which is exactly half. Not a win.


Each two members that vote present lowers the threshold by one.

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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:07 pm

Nora Xent wrote:https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1611574067324141568 WHAT IS GOING ON!?!

WE ARE RETURNING TO THE PRE-CIVIL WAR HOUSE LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Postby Hispida » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:07 pm

Nora Xent wrote:https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1611574067324141568 WHAT IS GOING ON!?!

CANINGS ARE BACK CANINGS ARE BACK CANINGS ARE BACK
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:08 pm

Hispida wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1611574067324141568 WHAT IS GOING ON!?!

CANINGS ARE BACK CANINGS ARE BACK CANINGS ARE BACK


Oh no… OH NO!

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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Eahland wrote:Nope. Looks like 216/432, which is exactly half. Not a win.


Each two members that vote present lowers the threshold by one.

He still needs one more vote, no?
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:08 pm

14th speaker vote:
Kevin McCarthy: 216
Jeffries: 212
Jordan: 2
Biggs: 2
Present: 2
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:08 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:never mind? turns out he needed one more yes?
I think he does, and he's livid right now. I think he just lost again.
This is the longest game of Happy Slaps EVER!
  • (This is going to continue onwards (after speaker election) for the ENTIRE House Session isn’t it?)
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Postby Untecna » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:09 pm

...the hell is going on? Will another vote be held? Are votes still to be accounted for?

Am I missing something here?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:09 pm

Hispida wrote:
Nora Xent wrote:https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1611574067324141568 WHAT IS GOING ON!?!

CANINGS ARE BACK CANINGS ARE BACK CANINGS ARE BACK

I was going to as, who uses a walking cane, lets get antebellum in this motherfucker. Probably not the right term but it sounded cooler than the right one.
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Postby Picairn » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm

Nora Xent wrote:13th speaker vote:
Kevin McCarthy: 216
Jeffries: 212
Jordan: 2
Biggs: 2

BRO MCCARTHY LOST BY ONE VOTE.

Ultimate humiliation.
Last edited by Picairn on Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Factbook | Constitution | Newspaper
Albrenia wrote:With great power comes great mockability.

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Moralityland wrote:big corporations allied with the communist elite
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Listen here Jack, we're going to destroy malarkey.
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Postby Eahland » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Eahland wrote:Nope. Looks like 216/432, which is exactly half. Not a win.


Each two members that vote present lowers the threshold by one.

Yes, I took that into account. The final vote tally was:

McCarthy: 216
Jeffries: 212
Other (Biggs 2, Jordan 2): 4
Present: 2

The 2 don't count, so that's 216+212+4 == 432 votes cast. McCarthy got 216 of them, which is exactly half. McCarthy loses again, because they're bad at math.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm

Untecna wrote:...the hell is going on? Will another vote be held? Are votes still to be accounted for?

Am I missing something here?

They only have exactly half, they need one more so they're trying to pressure Gaetz and Boebart that they need to switch from present to McCarthy in order for this to be the last vote.

In the process someone had to be held back like it was two people bumping chests at a bar.

I really want to add a snide tag right about now...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:12 pm

The hardline 6 still got it.

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Postby Perikuresu » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:12 pm

McCarthy got 216 votes??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFIN_qULL14
(Link is to C-Span livestreaming of congress)
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:13 pm

These four who didn’t vote for McCarthy are utter and complete embarrassments and I do not blame other members for their anger. That does not make near altercation ok.

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