American Politics 16: After The Ballooning

[Nora Xent]

George Santos is at least bi now, possibly completely straight and he lied about being gay.

[Kowani]

Schumer filed cloture to shut down debate on omnibus bill

i try to avoid procedural step reporting bc most of the time it's not important but in this case it is bc both sides can't agree on amendments (in this case, the key dispute comes from an amendment from Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), who wants a vote on his amendment to extend Title 42 at a 50-vote threshold)

schumer filing cloture means either they reach a deal on votes Thursday or there’s a Friday vote where 10 Republicans s will have to vote with the Dems to break a filibuster to advance the bill

Speaking of immigration, ive only just gave a cursory glance through some of its contents thus far, but I didnt see anything mentioned about border security programs- aside from the vote to extend title 42.

Is there any significant spending being allocated to USBP, ICE, or CBP? I Ask assuming that you've looked into the bill more depth.

$1.5 billion to CBP, $3.6 billion to ICE (who isn’t allowed to use it for detention)

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Anyway, voting on the omnibus started this morning, 5 amendment votes have been held so far, 3 of them failed

[Elwher]

George Santos is at least bi now, possibly completely straight and he lied about being gay.

And whose business, outside of possible partners, is that?

[Forsher]

George Santos is at least bi now, possibly completely straight and he lied about being gay.

And whose business, outside of possible partners, is that?

Well, as far as I can tell it's just a "was previously married to a woman" which isn't an unusual origin story for gay men, so there's that.

But all of these lies have, so far, been about turning Santos into the perfect counterpoint to the liberal theory of the world... he's someone who ticks all these oppressed minority boxes but he's a Trumpist anyway, he ticks all these oppressed minority boxes but he's succeeded anyway... and there is something that needs to be talked about there. Though, again, the evidence for "he lied about being gay" doesn't appear to be very strong.

Have you seen The Wire? Santos' self-reported biography is like the kid the reporter says he interviewed outside the baseball game: it's perfect for the point that's being made in every respect.

[Nora Xent]

George Santos is at least bi now, possibly completely straight and he lied about being gay.

And whose business, outside of possible partners, is that?

The fact that he lied about FUCKING EVERYTHING is why it's my business.

[Dumb Ideologies]

And whose business, outside of possible partners, is that?

The fact that he lied about FUCKING EVERYTHING is why it's my business.

If he's fucking everything he's not gay or bi, he's omnisexual and should probably be in sex jail.

[Forsher]

The fact that he lied about FUCKING EVERYTHING is why it's my business.

If he's fucking everything he's not gay or bi, he's omnisexual and should probably be in sex jail.

All we know is that he lied about fucking everything so it's possible he hasn't actually fucked everything. More information is needed.

[Kowani]

Speaking of immigration, ive only just gave a cursory glance through some of its contents thus far, but I didnt see anything mentioned about border security programs- aside from the vote to extend title 42.

Is there any significant spending being allocated to USBP, ICE, or CBP? I Ask assuming that you've looked into the bill more depth.

$1.5 billion to CBP, $3.6 billion to ICE (who isn’t allowed to use it for detention)

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Anyway, voting on the omnibus started this morning, 5 amendment votes have been held so far, 3 of them failed

First consequential passed amendment, the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act (73-24)

[Platoon of Peace]

And whose business, outside of possible partners, is that?

The fact that he lied about FUCKING EVERYTHING is why it's my business.

And how do you know that?

[Nora Xent]

The fact that he lied about FUCKING EVERYTHING is why it's my business.

And how do you know that?

1. he didn't work at the places he claimed to work.
2. He claimed his grandparents were holocaust survivors when they likely were not even Jewish or living in Europe at the time.
3. he claimed that 4 of his employees died in the pulse shootings which wouldn't even be true if he DID work at the places he claimed to work.

[Kowani]

A few more consequential ones got through
Amendment allowing states and local governments to use covid relief funds to build infrastructure (unanimous)
Allows seizure and sale of Russian oligarchs’ assets to be transferred to Ukraine for humanitarian and military aid
Protection for Nursing Mothers Act (95-2)
Antitrust legislation increasing merger filing fees, ends the way big corporations can move multistate AG antitrust lawsuits into whatever jurisdiction they prefer (88-8)


2 amendment votes left

[The Black Forrest]

And how do you know that?

1. he didn't work at the places he claimed to work.
2. He claimed his grandparents were holocaust survivors when they likely were not even Jewish or living in Europe at the time.
3. he claimed that 4 of his employees died in the pulse shootings which wouldn't even be true if he DID work at the places he claimed to work.

Oh that guy. Is he even gay? With Pete we have seen his husband. Anybody seen this guys supposed significant other?

[Dalavi]

If he's fucking everything he's not gay or bi, he's omnisexual and should probably be in sex jail.

All we know is that he lied about fucking everything so it's possible he hasn't actually fucked everything. More information is needed.

LAUNCH AN INVESTAUGRSHGE

[The Black Forrest]

A few more consequential ones got through
Amendment allowing states and local governments to use covid relief funds to build infrastructure (unanimous)
Allows seizure and sale of Russian oligarchs’ assets to be transferred to Ukraine for humanitarian and military aid
Protection for Nursing Mothers Act (95-2)
Antitrust legislation increasing merger filing fees, ends the way big corporations can move multistate AG antitrust lawsuits into whatever jurisdiction they prefer (88-8)


2 amendment votes left

Wait what? Covid funds for roads? News said covid is adding to overloading hospitals again for end of year bugs. Flu, rvs, and covid…..

The Russian assets? That seems like a future problem.

Filing fees? How is that going to “discourage” such actions?

Also moving to whatever jurisdiction?……that’s a big bonus for corporations.

[Khurkhogur]

I don't usually question the wisdom of apple, but there should be a second button for the response of an Emergency Mental Health Team.

Oh, and cutting back on using child labor in China would be a good step for them too, maybe

Oh my god, it is so telling that this gets no response. Liberals looove their Apple and their Amazon and the fact that they're profiting from what is objectively exploitation gets neatly ignored. Not to say that I'm exempt but c'mon. Don't engage in corporate worship. It's like the World Cup. Everyone complained about discrimination and gay rights and took the knee for racism, meanwhile the stadiums and facilities were built through the labor of dozens of thousands of indentured servants, thousands of whom died. Be slightly consistent.

[Kowani]

A few more consequential ones got through
Amendment allowing states and local governments to use covid relief funds to build infrastructure (unanimous)
Allows seizure and sale of Russian oligarchs’ assets to be transferred to Ukraine for humanitarian and military aid
Protection for Nursing Mothers Act (95-2)
Antitrust legislation increasing merger filing fees, ends the way big corporations can move multistate AG antitrust lawsuits into whatever jurisdiction they prefer (88-8)


2 amendment votes left

Wait what? Covid funds for roads? News said covid is adding to overloading hospitals again for end of year bugs. Flu, rvs, and covid…..

You know infrastructure is more than just roads

The Russian assets? That seems like a future problem.

what

Filing fees? How is that going to “discourage” such actions?

If you make something more expensive to do less people will do it
Also the money extracted will fund the DOJ/FTC antitrust divisions

Also moving to whatever jurisdiction?……that’s a big bonus for corporations.

Which is…why the bill stops that

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House passes bill requiring annual IRS audits of the president's tax returns & to make them public (220-201)

[The Black Forrest]

Oh, and cutting back on using child labor in China would be a good step for them too, maybe

Oh my god, it is so telling that this gets no response. Liberals looove their Apple and their Amazon and the fact that they're profiting from what is objectively exploitation gets neatly ignored. Not to say that I'm exempt but c'mon. Don't engage in corporate worship. It's like the World Cup. Everyone complained about discrimination and gay rights and took the knee for racism, meanwhile the stadiums and facilities were built through the labor of dozens of thousands of indentured servants, thousands of whom died. Be slightly consistent.

Jab at liberals? *snore*

If you had left out the liberal stuff and focused on the issues mentioned, it would have been more interesting.

[The Black Forrest]

Wait what? Covid funds for roads? News said covid is adding to overloading hospitals again for end of year bugs. Flu, rvs, and covid…..

You know infrastructure is more than just roads

Is that an answer?

The Russian assets? That seems like a future problem.

what

I can see this happening to American assets in other countries. Retaliation is easy.

Filing fees? How is that going to “discourage” such actions?

If you make something more expensive to do less people will do it
Also the money extracted will fund the DOJ/FTC antitrust divisions

It depends on the fees. A couple thousand is not really a big deal. Annoying at best. It’s like Californias fines for water waste. It’s annoying and really does discourage the wealthy.

Also moving to whatever jurisdiction?……that’s a big bonus for corporations.

Which is…why the bill stops that

Oops misread. “End” didn’t register.

[Khurkhogur]

Oh my god, it is so telling that this gets no response. Liberals looove their Apple and their Amazon and the fact that they're profiting from what is objectively exploitation gets neatly ignored. Not to say that I'm exempt but c'mon. Don't engage in corporate worship. It's like the World Cup. Everyone complained about discrimination and gay rights and took the knee for racism, meanwhile the stadiums and facilities were built through the labor of dozens of thousands of indentured servants, thousands of whom died. Be slightly consistent.

Jab at liberals? *snore*
If you had left out the liberal stuff and focused on the issues mentioned, it would have been more interesting.

No, my point is liberals specifically have their little touchstone issues but anything that could implicate them as being the bad guys they jump through hoops to avoid mentioning.
I didn't see Qatari sheikhs take a knee during the World Cup. That's because they don't give a shit about human suffering, nor do they pretend to. That's consistent. Liberals profess to be compassionate while they actually sit in the most privileged positions.

[Kowani]

You know infrastructure is more than just roads

Is that an answer?

Yes?

what

I can see this happening to American assets in other countries. Retaliation is easy.

It’s only easy if you ignore things like “power differential” and “reasoning”

[The Black Forrest]

Jab at liberals? *snore*
If you had left out the liberal stuff and focused on the issues mentioned, it would have been more interesting.

No, my point is liberals specifically have their little touchstone issues but anything that could implicate them as being the bad guys they jump through hoops to avoid mentioning.
I didn't see Qatari sheikhs take a knee during the World Cup. That's because they don't give a shit about human suffering, nor do they pretend to. That's consistent. Liberals profess to be compassionate while they actually sit in the most privileged positions.

And what does that accomplish? Owning them? You mentioned valid issues. Why not talk about what should be done versus “oh those libs”?

[The Black Forrest]

Is that an answer?

Yes?

So?….you support it?

I can see this happening to American assets in other countries. Retaliation is easy.

It’s only easy if you ignore things like “power differential” and “reasoning”

And yet; is it our place to decide that?

[Platoon of Peace]

And how do you know that?

1. he didn't work at the places he claimed to work.
2. He claimed his grandparents were holocaust survivors when they likely were not even Jewish or living in Europe at the time.
3. he claimed that 4 of his employees died in the pulse shootings which wouldn't even be true if he DID work at the places he claimed to work.

I suppose I meant more the gay part. And number 2 definitely feels like a bit of guessing done there cause you say likely rather then were or weren't.

[Khurkhogur]

No, my point is liberals specifically have their little touchstone issues but anything that could implicate them as being the bad guys they jump through hoops to avoid mentioning.
I didn't see Qatari sheikhs take a knee during the World Cup. That's because they don't give a shit about human suffering, nor do they pretend to. That's consistent. Liberals profess to be compassionate while they actually sit in the most privileged positions.

And what does that accomplish? Owning them? You mentioned valid issues. Why not talk about what should be done versus “oh those libs”?

Yeah I like owning them ngl.
But if we want to discuss solutions, that's bleak. Because ultimately, the world has always been and likely always will be an ugly place when it comes to power. How do you think living standards in the west are so high? Hundreds of millions of people overseas need to be exploited to maintain the prosperity of the west today. If you liberated all these people from exploitation, then living standards in the west would collapse (and make no mistake, that entails a greater degree of suffering for the lower classes as well as the upper classes in the west).
I'm sympathetic to socialist narratives that we can achieve relative equality and universal dignity, but it's a pipe dream. The fact is, if the shoe were on the other foot, the oppressed classes of the world today would gladly be the oppressors instead. People aren't content being just equal.

[Ifreann]

Jab at liberals? *snore*
If you had left out the liberal stuff and focused on the issues mentioned, it would have been more interesting.

No, my point is liberals specifically have their little touchstone issues but anything that could implicate them as being the bad guys they jump through hoops to avoid mentioning.
I didn't see Qatari sheikhs take a knee during the World Cup. That's because they don't give a shit about human suffering, nor do they pretend to. That's consistent. Liberals profess to be compassionate while they actually sit in the most privileged positions.

You do not, in fact, have to hand it to the Qataris.