American Politics 16: After The Ballooning

[The Black Forrest]

If the pro-choice folks said "Okay, we can have a 15 week limit for elective abortion", then "pro-life" folks would move the goal posts and say "Nope, we want a complete ban instead."

This is why I never know how to respond when I'm asked if I am prolife or pro choice. I thinkit should be allowed without question for the 1st trimester only.

The problem with the 1st is time is lost for recognizing a pregnancy. Genetic testing and results also take a long time. I know of people waiting and almost hitting the cut off dates.

Also; with the cons; every time some super human effort saves a preme; it’s gestational time becomes the new standard for life.

Anyway; the fight goes on…..

[Saiwania]

What do people make of Jair Bolsonaro's presence in Florida? Does he intend to become a resident or stay there indefinitely? Would the US extradite him if Brazil ever decided that they wanted him back? The ex-president of Brazil has supposedly fled to the US ahead of his opponent taking power.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/braz ... -rcna63802

[Free Algerstonia]

What do people make of Jair Bolsonaro's presence in Florida? Does he intend to become a resident or stay there indefinitely? Would the US extradite him if Brazil ever decided that they wanted him back? The ex-president of Brazil has supposedly fled to the US ahead of his opponent taking power.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/braz ... -rcna63802

i welcome him and believe he should apply for political asylum because he is lula's first target for oppression

[Eahland]

To maintain symmetry, we should deport Trump to Brazil.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

To maintain symmetry, we should deport Trump to Brazil.

But Trump did not do anything wrong. Trump is not guilty of the Leftist Democrats Trumped UP charges against him, Trumped UP Pun intended.

[Vassenor]

To maintain symmetry, we should deport Trump to Brazil.

But Trump did not do anything wrong. Trump is not guilty of the Leftist Democrats Trumped UP charges against him, Trumped UP Pun intended.

Repeating a lie does not make it magically become true.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

But Trump did not do anything wrong. Trump is not guilty of the Leftist Democrats Trumped UP charges against him, Trumped UP Pun intended.

Repeating a lie does not make it magically become true.

Eahland's statement means Trump is Guilty. GMS statement means Trump is not guilty, so which is True and which is Fake? Let me guess your answer to my question, I say you would say Eahland's statement is True and GMS statement is Fake, or should I even try to guess your answer to my question?

[The Black Forrest]

To maintain symmetry, we should deport Trump to Brazil.

But Trump did not do anything wrong. Trump is not guilty of the Leftist Democrats Trumped UP charges against him, Trumped UP Pun intended.

Actually he has. The stolen SCI and special programs documents. There is no “oops” in this matter. And before you regurgitate the usual; I would say the same things about a democratic President if they did the same thing.

The taxes? I pay a large sum. Trump makes a fuck load more then I do; he pays $750 and nothing? It will be interesting what the IRS will find. They get grumpy over wealth avoiding paying taxes and take great satisfaction nailing people (know a guy in the investigations section…his words)….

[The Black Forrest]

Something new for that proud republican trump supporter Santos.

The Brazilians reopened an old case against him. He is alleged to have stolen a check book and used it to buy $700 in merchandise. He ignored summons and disappeared.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/02/politics ... index.html

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Something new for that proud republican trump supporter Santos.

The Brazilians reopened an old case against him. He is alleged to have stolen a check book and used it to buy $700 in merchandise. He ignored summons and disappeared.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/02/politics ... index.html

oh, I did not know George Santos is Brazilian, I thought he is Hispanic. At least in this case you posted alleged.

[The Black Forrest]

Something new for that proud republican trump supporter Santos.

The Brazilians reopened an old case against him. He is alleged to have stolen a check book and used it to buy $700 in merchandise. He ignored summons and disappeared.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/02/politics ... index.html

oh, I did not know George Santos is Brazilian, I thought he is Hispanic. At least in this case you posted alleged.

He is not. His so claimed Ukrainian Jewish Grandparents were born there.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

oh, I did not know George Santos is Brazilian, I thought he is Hispanic. At least in this case you posted alleged.

He is not. His so claimed Ukrainian Jewish Grandparents were born there.

Thanks for the information.

[Based Illinois]

Im a patriot first. I do happen to be Republican aligned ( just registered in fact ), but party politics should only be a vehicle for positive national change. If a party fails ( as ours often does ) its our duty to call out these short comings - and if necessary, abandon a ship too rotted to float. Psychophantic defenses of mediocre conservatives do nothing to improve either the material conditions or moral health of Americans - we have to be honest and critical of ourselves.

Trump may be the bane of the Democrats, but that doesn't make him our guy. He has A LOT of short comings, and America deserves better.

Thanks for the explanations, so I did get a sense somewhere that you were one of us. Ok, so I now consider you an anti Trumper Republican, I am also Pro Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan, how about you?

Im not an ant-trumper. Hes just not a fixation for me. Im glad Donny kicked in the teeth of dudes like Romney and Graham, but he's not what we need for a leader.

DeSantis is ok. He's definetly more respectable that Donald, but he isn't nearly as radical as what he needs to be. He may have started going after Disney and Blackrock, but that was only after its begun becoming mainstream knowledge among the GOP that those companies are pushing woke ideology. Dont get me wrong, what he's doing is a good thing, but he should have started going after them a long time ago.

Disney World sits on three of the poorest counties in America, something that the Disney corporation is directly responsible for bringing about. If I were to list all the scandals and business malpractice which could be traced to Blackrock, I would reach the 10000 word limit, and still not even be a tenth of the way done. If a candidate is truly patriotic and cares for Christian moral values, then they shouldn't turn a blind eye when businesses outrageously exploit their workers, their communities, and the public trust. Culture war is important, but it shouldn't have to wait till that for a public representative to begin clamping down on parasitic private interests. I feel like he'll only be another milqtoast conservative unless he starts a lot more hardline against the influence of big business and big capital over our government institutions. He's also too pro-Israel for me - but that's a whole other thing.

I dislike Raegen for pretty much the same reasons. He, perhaps more than any president before him, laid the ground work for the modern corportacracy that runs much of the world today. At some point in his life, im sure he must have read the line, " You cannot serve God and Mammon. " and he chose Mammon, and the GOP followed suit ( the dnc as well, shortly after ). His foriegn policy in Latin America directly contributed to the border crisis we're experiencing today - he poisoned the GOP by entrenching ideas of free market fundamentalism into the party platform for decades to come - and his tax cuts and asinine business friendly "deregulation" programs led to some of the biggest redistribution of wealth in American history from the poor to the rich ( ironic huh ).

Ford and Teddy were far more respectable Republican presidents, and Ford especially should be given more spotlight than what he's given.

There is also a lot to be said for old school democrats as well, like FDR, William Jennings Bryan, Henry Wallace , and Huey Long

We shouldn't fixate on candidates or parties tho, our focus should be on the principles which guide us.

[Vassenor]

Thanks for the explanations, so I did get a sense somewhere that you were one of us. Ok, so I now consider you an anti Trumper Republican, I am also Pro Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan, how about you?

Im not an ant-trumper. Hes just not a fixation for me. Im glad Donny kicked in the teeth of dudes like Romney and Graham, but he's not what we need for a leader.

DeSantis is ok. He's definetly more respectable that Donald, but he isn't nearly as radical as what he needs to be. He may have started going after Disney and Blackrock, but that was only after its begun becoming mainstream knowledge among the GOP that those companies are pushing woke ideology. Dont get me wrong, what he's doing is a good thing, but he should have started going after them a long time ago.

Disney World sits on three of the poorest counties in America, something that the Disney corporation is directly responsible for bringing about. If I were to list all the scandals and business malpractice which could be traced to Blackrock, I would reach the 10000 word limit, and still not even be a tenth of the way done. If a candidate is truly patriotic and cares for Christian moral values, then they shouldn't turn a blind eye when businesses outrageously exploit their workers, their communities, and the public trust. Culture war is important, but it shouldn't have to wait till that for a public representative to begin clamping down on parasitic private interests. I feel like he'll only be another milqtoast conservative unless he starts a lot more hardline against the influence of big business and big capital over our government institutions. He's also too pro-Israel for me - but that's a whole other thing.

I dislike Raegen for pretty much the same reasons. He, perhaps more than any president before him, laid the ground work for the modern corportacracy that runs much of the world today. At some point in his life, im sure he must have read the line, " You cannot serve God and Mammon. " and he chose Mammon, and the GOP followed suit ( the dnc as well, shortly after ). His foriegn policy in Latin America directly contributed to the border crisis we're experiencing today - he poisoned the GOP by entrenching ideas of free market fundamentalism into the party platform for decades to come - and his tax cuts and asinine business friendly "deregulation" programs led to some of the biggest redistribution of wealth in American history from the poor to the rich ( ironic huh ).

Ford and Teddy were far more respectable Republican presidents, and Ford especially should be given more spotlight than what he's given.

There is also a lot to be said for old school democrats as well, like FDR, William Jennings Bryan, Henry Wallace , and Huey Long

We shouldn't fixate on candidates or parties tho, our focus should be on the principles which guide us.

Define “woke ideology”.

[Based Illinois]

Im not an ant-trumper. Hes just not a fixation for me. Im glad Donny kicked in the teeth of dudes like Romney and Graham, but he's not what we need for a leader.

DeSantis is ok. He's definetly more respectable that Donald, but he isn't nearly as radical as what he needs to be. He may have started going after Disney and Blackrock, but that was only after its begun becoming mainstream knowledge among the GOP that those companies are pushing woke ideology. Dont get me wrong, what he's doing is a good thing, but he should have started going after them a long time ago.

Disney World sits on three of the poorest counties in America, something that the Disney corporation is directly responsible for bringing about. If I were to list all the scandals and business malpractice which could be traced to Blackrock, I would reach the 10000 word limit, and still not even be a tenth of the way done. If a candidate is truly patriotic and cares for Christian moral values, then they shouldn't turn a blind eye when businesses outrageously exploit their workers, their communities, and the public trust. Culture war is important, but it shouldn't have to wait till that for a public representative to begin clamping down on parasitic private interests. I feel like he'll only be another milqtoast conservative unless he starts a lot more hardline against the influence of big business and big capital over our government institutions. He's also too pro-Israel for me - but that's a whole other thing.

I dislike Raegen for pretty much the same reasons. He, perhaps more than any president before him, laid the ground work for the modern corportacracy that runs much of the world today. At some point in his life, im sure he must have read the line, " You cannot serve God and Mammon. " and he chose Mammon, and the GOP followed suit ( the dnc as well, shortly after ). His foriegn policy in Latin America directly contributed to the border crisis we're experiencing today - he poisoned the GOP by entrenching ideas of free market fundamentalism into the party platform for decades to come - and his tax cuts and asinine business friendly "deregulation" programs led to some of the biggest redistribution of wealth in American history from the poor to the rich ( ironic huh ).

Ford and Teddy were far more respectable Republican presidents, and Ford especially should be given more spotlight than what he's given.

There is also a lot to be said for old school democrats as well, like FDR, William Jennings Bryan, Henry Wallace , and Huey Long

We shouldn't fixate on candidates or parties tho, our focus should be on the principles which guide us.

Define “woke ideology”.

Atomization of the individual

[Vassenor]

Define “woke ideology”.

Atomization of the individual

Define “woke ideology” without resorting to weird buzzwords.

[Based Illinois]

Atomization of the individual

Define “woke ideology” without resorting to weird buzzwords.

Atomization is a buzzword?

Attempting to separate individuals from all forms of traditional identity: family, community, sex, race, nationality, culture, history, religion, etc.

To atomize the person from their traditional support groups

[Haganham]

Atomization of the individual

Define “woke ideology” without resorting to weird buzzwords.

atomization
[ at-uh-mahy-zey-shuhn, ]SHOW IPA


See synonyms for atomization on Thesaurus.com
noun
the act or process of splitting into smaller parts, sections, groups, etc.; fragmentation or disintegration:
The atomization of society into isolated individuals, who find nothing above them but the all-powerful state, is largely a modern phenomenon.

Literally the example in the first definition.

[Vassenor]

Define “woke ideology” without resorting to weird buzzwords.

Atomization is a buzzword?

Attempting to separate individuals from all forms of traditional identity: family, community, sex, race, nationality, culture, history, religion, etc.

To atomize the person from their traditional support groups

I wasn’t aware people were losing those things.

[Vassenor]

Define “woke ideology” without resorting to weird buzzwords.

atomization
[ at-uh-mahy-zey-shuhn, ]SHOW IPA


See synonyms for atomization on Thesaurus.com
noun
the act or process of splitting into smaller parts, sections, groups, etc.; fragmentation or disintegration:
The atomization of society into isolated individuals, who find nothing above them but the all-powerful state, is largely a modern phenomenon.

Literally the example in the first definition.

OK, so how does teaching the kids that some people are gay and that’s OK do that?

[Haganham]

Atomization is a buzzword?

Attempting to separate individuals from all forms of traditional identity: family, community, sex, race, nationality, culture, history, religion, etc.

To atomize the person from their traditional support groups

I wasn’t aware people were losing those things.

Privilege is often invisible to those who benefit from it. :^)

OK, so how does teaching the kids that some people are gay and that’s OK do that?

When did I say it did?

[Vassenor]

I wasn’t aware people were losing those things.

Privilege is often invisible to those who benefit from it. :^)

OK, so how does teaching the kids that some people are gay and that’s OK do that?

When did I say it did?

Because that’s the woke ideology that Disney is supposedly espousing and thus it is OK for DeSantis to wield the wrath of god against them. Read the post I was responding to.

Also your weak as fuck deflection has been noted and laughed at.

[Based Illinois]

atomization
[ at-uh-mahy-zey-shuhn, ]SHOW IPA


See synonyms for atomization on Thesaurus.com
noun
the act or process of splitting into smaller parts, sections, groups, etc.; fragmentation or disintegration:
The atomization of society into isolated individuals, who find nothing above them but the all-powerful state, is largely a modern phenomenon.

Literally the example in the first definition.

OK, so how does teaching the kids that some people are gay and that’s OK do that?

There is a difference between teaching that some people naturally have homosexuality tendencies, and actively telling and or teaching children to explore their sexuality, or God forbid gaslighting them into thinking they're transgender That isn't anyone's business, and it shouldn't certainly be propagandized to the public.

[Vassenor]

OK, so how does teaching the kids that some people are gay and that’s OK do that?

There is a difference between teaching that some people naturally have homosexuality tendencies, and actively telling and or teaching children to explore their sexuality, or God forbid gaslighting them into thinking they're transgender That isn't anyone's business, and it certainly be propagandized to the public.

OK so basically you’re upset about things that aren’t actually happening. Got it.

[Based Illinois]

There is a difference between teaching that some people naturally have homosexuality tendencies, and actively telling and or teaching children to explore their sexuality, or God forbid gaslighting them into thinking they're transgender That isn't anyone's business, and it certainly be propagandized to the public.

OK so basically you’re upset about things that aren’t actually happening. Got it.

Im surprised you could read this post, what with your head that deep in the sand.

Edit: or are we just being coi?