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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:58 pm

Xind wrote:


It would also be nice if he also took the medicaid expansion offered by the affordable healthcare act.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:03 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Xind wrote:
It would also be nice if he also took the medicaid expansion offered by the affordable healthcare act.

Let's not get crazy!


Yes, let’s go crazy!

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:17 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Let's not get crazy!


Yes, let’s go crazy!

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:19 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Yes, let’s go crazy!

Dearly beloved, we are gathered here to get through this thing called life. Electric word, life.


I just want Medicaid Expansion…

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:24 pm

Umeria wrote:
Ifreann wrote:So does the Department of Energy spy on foreign biological research facilities?

Presumably the spying was done by some other department and the DoE just analyzed the data.


The DOE has a branch dedicated to studying the proliferation of mass destruction weapons and a section for bioweapons.

Nothing wrong with knowing how this beasty began. The problem? It will be corrupted into a political blame game.

Anyway……
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Umeria wrote:Presumably the spying was done by some other department and the DoE just analyzed the data.


The DOE has a branch dedicated to studying the proliferation of mass destruction weapons and a section for bioweapons.

Nothing wrong with knowing how this beasty began. The problem? It will be corrupted into a political blame game.

Anyway……

Will be corrupted? Which party created a subcommittee to study it as one of their first acts? Hint: their favorite color is not blue.
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Postby Umeria » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:32 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Umeria wrote:I plan on voting for her because she supports Medicare for All while Biden does not.

Healing crystals and essential oils aren’t healthcare

A common myth about Medicare for All is that it's "government healthcare". In reality it's universal coverage of healthcare. Keep the doctor, get rid of the insurance mafia. Williamson does not have and does not want the power to force you to use crystals.
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Postby Socialist Montenegro » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:36 pm

Umeria wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Healing crystals and essential oils aren’t healthcare

A common myth about Medicare for All is that it's "government healthcare". In reality it's universal coverage of healthcare. Keep the doctor, get rid of the insurance mafia. Williamson does not have and does not want the power to force you to use crystals.


Yeah, it would no more abolish private medical practice than present-day Medicare and Medicaid do.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:18 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Dearly beloved, we are gathered here to get through this thing called life. Electric word, life.


I just want Medicaid Expansion…

Not a Prince fan, I see...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:20 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Umeria wrote:Presumably the spying was done by some other department and the DoE just analyzed the data.


The DOE has a branch dedicated to studying the proliferation of mass destruction weapons and a section for bioweapons.

Nothing wrong with knowing how this beasty began. The problem? It will be corrupted into a political blame game.

Anyway……

I mean, only going by what's been said here someone already mentioned that it was a 'low confidence' report and it seems like we're acting like it's a Perry Mason style courtroom confession. So I'd say it's already underway.

With again the caveat that I haven't even read the linked material yet.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:41 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I just want Medicaid Expansion…

Not a Prince fan, I see...


No, I’m not.

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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:46 pm

Umeria wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Healing crystals and essential oils aren’t healthcare

A common myth about Medicare for All is that it's "government healthcare". In reality it's universal coverage of healthcare. Keep the doctor, get rid of the insurance mafia. Williamson does not have and does not want the power to force you to use crystals.

You can’t possibly know what she’d do if she was in office. The orb lady is unpredictable, dangerous even.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:49 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Umeria wrote:A common myth about Medicare for All is that it's "government healthcare". In reality it's universal coverage of healthcare. Keep the doctor, get rid of the insurance mafia. Williamson does not have and does not want the power to force you to use crystals.

You can’t possibly know what she’d do if she was in office. The orb lady is unpredictable, dangerous even.

I think almost everyone imagines the politicians they don't like doing more than they promise to.

The reality is that they almost always do less.
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Postby Umeria » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:51 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Umeria wrote:A common myth about Medicare for All is that it's "government healthcare". In reality it's universal coverage of healthcare. Keep the doctor, get rid of the insurance mafia. Williamson does not have and does not want the power to force you to use crystals.

You can’t possibly know what she’d do if she was in office. The orb lady is unpredictable, dangerous even.

I know that she will fight for Medicare for All harder than Biden. Far less dangerous than leaving millions of Americans without health coverage.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:53 pm

Umeria wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:You can’t possibly know what she’d do if she was in office. The orb lady is unpredictable, dangerous even.

I know that she will fight for Medicare for All harder than Biden. Far less dangerous than leaving millions of Americans without health coverage.

She can fight as hard as she wants, if she doesn't know how to actually make it happen you guys will be right back here saying she didn't 'want it enough' or 'fight hard enough' for it.
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Postby Umeria » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:56 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Umeria wrote:I know that she will fight for Medicare for All harder than Biden. Far less dangerous than leaving millions of Americans without health coverage.

She can fight as hard as she wants, if she doesn't know how to actually make it happen you guys will be right back here saying she didn't 'want it enough' or 'fight hard enough' for it.

Effectiveness is certainly a gamble. I will acknowledge any strategic failure that she makes. I can't speak for the rest of us guys of course.
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:59 pm

Umeria wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:You can’t possibly know what she’d do if she was in office. The orb lady is unpredictable, dangerous even.

I know that she will fight for Medicare for All harder than Biden. Far less dangerous than leaving millions of Americans without health coverage.

Would rather not lose the election for a near zero chance of an inept, rather loony politician being able to fail in a different fashion from the previous one.

The dangerous part was more or less a joke though.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:01 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Umeria wrote:I know that she will fight for Medicare for All harder than Biden. Far less dangerous than leaving millions of Americans without health coverage.

Would rather not lose the election for a near zero chance of an inept, rather loony politician being able to fail in a different fashion from the previous one.

The dangerous part was more or less a joke though.

Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:02 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Umeria wrote:A common myth about Medicare for All is that it's "government healthcare". In reality it's universal coverage of healthcare. Keep the doctor, get rid of the insurance mafia. Williamson does not have and does not want the power to force you to use crystals.

You can’t possibly know what she’d do if she was in office. The orb lady is unpredictable, dangerous even.


Especially with the orb of confusion!

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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:02 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Would rather not lose the election for a near zero chance of an inept, rather loony politician being able to fail in a different fashion from the previous one.

The dangerous part was more or less a joke though.

Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.

He is not a president, much less great or awesome. In an ideal world, not in the USA either.

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Postby Celritannia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:02 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Would rather not lose the election for a near zero chance of an inept, rather loony politician being able to fail in a different fashion from the previous one.

The dangerous part was more or less a joke though.

Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.

Was. He is no longer the president.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:03 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Would rather not lose the election for a near zero chance of an inept, rather loony politician being able to fail in a different fashion from the previous one.

The dangerous part was more or less a joke though.

Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.


He also needs a rest of life time out at Mar a Largo until he can realize that he was never a victim of election fraud.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:04 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.

He is not a president, much less great or awesome. In an ideal world, not in the USA either.

According to you and those who strongly agree with you. Not too me and those who strongly agree with me. Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.[
I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong in any way on any issues we are discussing. I will explain my side of it and I will leave it there.I GMS Am A Proud Conservative Republican Nationalist with A Slight Economic Libertarian Streak Neo Con Paleo Con America First Pro MAGA Pro Trump Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan Supporter The original Make America Great Again President of the USA With Pride and Honor.For the 2 Greatest American Presidents of the USA An Awesome Combination.

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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:04 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:He is not a president, much less great or awesome. In an ideal world, not in the USA either.

According to you and those who strongly agree with you. Not to me and those who strongly agree with me. Republican President Trump is a great and awesome President of the USA.[

Nobody agrees with you

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Postby Umeria » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:06 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Umeria wrote:I know that she will fight for Medicare for All harder than Biden. Far less dangerous than leaving millions of Americans without health coverage.

Would rather not lose the election for a near zero chance of an inept, rather loony politician being able to fail in a different fashion from the previous one.

Williamson has a better chance of beating the Republican nominee than Biden, and a much better chance of implementing Medicare for All if elected.
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