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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:17 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Huh.
He'd be the first Mormon president if he won. A title Romney could have had in 2012 if he'd won.

I see Huntsman was ambassador to China and Russia, wow. I never really paid attention to him till now.

https://www.ontheissues.org/Jon_Huntsman.htm if you want more. Remember this is a bit old since it is from 2012.

There are topics I very much disagree with him on, particularly when it comes to economics, but he is reasonable.

One line on the environment? Well, his dad did invent the styrofoam clamshell. I know, they don't use those anymore but still.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:48 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:https://www.ontheissues.org/Jon_Huntsman.htm if you want more. Remember this is a bit old since it is from 2012.

There are topics I very much disagree with him on, particularly when it comes to economics, but he is reasonable.

One line on the environment? Well, his dad did invent the styrofoam clamshell. I know, they don't use those anymore but still.

Yeah, but can he pay for the sins of his father? Can't really use that against him in politics unless you wanna be a sleezebag and bring up his dead father in a debate.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:06 pm

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:One line on the environment? Well, his dad did invent the styrofoam clamshell. I know, they don't use those anymore but still.

Yeah, but can he pay for the sins of his father? Can't really use that against him in politics unless you wanna be a sleezebag and bring up his dead father in a debate.


We're talking about a hypothetical campaign against Donald Trump...

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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:07 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Yeah, but can he pay for the sins of his father? Can't really use that against him in politics unless you wanna be a sleezebag and bring up his dead father in a debate.


We're talking about a hypothetical campaign against Donald Trump...

Touché
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:17 pm

Elwher wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:


Who would you like to see run?[/quote|

Condoleezza Rice


Wouldn’t she be too old? She would be 70 if elected.
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Postby Eahland » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:20 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Who would you like to see run?[/quote|

Condoleezza Rice


Wouldn’t she be too old? She would be 70 if elected.

So old! Only ten years younger than our current President!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:20 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Elwher wrote:
Who would you like to see run?[/quote|

Condoleezza Rice


She would be cool.


Would she? She was part of the crew how said Iraq? Afghanistan? No problem!
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:21 pm

Eahland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Wouldn’t she be too old? She would be 70 if elected.

So old! Only ten years younger than our current President!


Weren’t you one of the one bitching about Biden’s age? Age restrictions, etc., etc.
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* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Marxist Albania » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:47 pm

None of the war criminals,thank you very much. Which pretty much rules out the party elders in both major parties. They all have blood on their hands.
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Postby Eahland » Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Eahland wrote:So old! Only ten years younger than our current President!


Weren’t you one of the one bitching about Biden’s age? Age restrictions, etc., etc.

I believe you have me mistaken for someone else.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:14 am

Eahland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Weren’t you one of the one bitching about Biden’s age? Age restrictions, etc., etc.

I believe you have me mistaken for someone else.


Probably. I barely remember how to get home.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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El Lazaro
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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:21 am

Marxist Albania wrote:None of the war criminals,thank you very much. Which pretty much rules out the party elders in both major parties. They all have blood on their hands.

Sure, if you redefine war crimes as working in the US government.

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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:23 am

Marjorie Taylor Greene continues to embarrass the party, which itself keeps choosing all the wrong choices.
MTG, dividing the country is bad, actually.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:25 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:Marjorie Taylor Greene continues to embarrass the party, which itself keeps choosing all the wrong choices.
MTG, dividing the country is bad, actually.


And even then her way of doing it doesn’t make sense. Even in a red state like Alabama there are blue areas.

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Postby Umeria » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:46 am

El Lazaro wrote:
Marxist Albania wrote:None of the war criminals,thank you very much. Which pretty much rules out the party elders in both major parties. They all have blood on their hands.

Sure, if you redefine war crimes as working in the US government.

It's true for Biden, Trump and Desantis at least. Probably a few others. But to claim every "party elder" is involved is silly, like I don't think Hakeem Jeffries has done anything in that vein.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:48 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Marjorie Taylor Greene continues to embarrass the party, which itself keeps choosing all the wrong choices.
MTG, dividing the country is bad, actually.


And even then her way of doing it doesn’t make sense. Even in a red state like Alabama there are blue areas.

I wish McCarthy had it in him to freakin' stand up to her though.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 am

Dylar wrote:
Floofybit wrote:The republican party needs to exist so we can have an actually decent party

>Republicans
>decent
pick one

You don't think the right wing party is decent? Oh... I guess that means every party in the U.S. sucks. Time to start my own party. Don't worry, the drinks are non-alcoholic
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:55 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
And even then her way of doing it doesn’t make sense. Even in a red state like Alabama there are blue areas.

I wish McCarthy had it in him to freakin' stand up to her though.


Yes but he has issues too.

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:01 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
And even then her way of doing it doesn’t make sense. Even in a red state like Alabama there are blue areas.

I wish McCarthy had it in him to freakin' stand up to her though.


MTG is the new base of the party, my guy.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:05 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:I wish McCarthy had it in him to freakin' stand up to her though.


MTG is the new base of the party, my guy.

Don't go there.
I do not wish to think of that.


Floofybit wrote:
Dylar wrote:>Republicans
>decent
pick one

You don't think the right wing party is decent? Oh... I guess that means every party in the U.S. sucks. Time to start my own party. Don't worry, the drinks are non-alcoholic

Ba-dum, tss.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:04 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:I wish McCarthy had it in him to freakin' stand up to her though.


MTG is the new base of the party, my guy.


Eisenhower weeps.

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Revanchist Germany
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Postby Revanchist Germany » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:14 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
MTG is the new base of the party, my guy.


Eisenhower weeps.


Write Ichabod above the door, for the glory has departed.
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Northern Seleucia
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:17 am

Revanchist Germany wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Eisenhower weeps.


Write Ichabod above the door, for the glory has departed.

The glory departed long ago, friend. We are just experiencing the effects now.
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Postby Renovated Germany » Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:30 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Revanchist Germany wrote:
Write Ichabod above the door, for the glory has departed.

The glory departed long ago, friend. We are just experiencing the effects now.


Touché.
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Postby American Legionaries » Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:30 am

El Lazaro wrote:
Marxist Albania wrote:None of the war criminals,thank you very much. Which pretty much rules out the party elders in both major parties. They all have blood on their hands.

Sure, if you redefine war crimes as working in the US government.


I mean... If the organization as a whole is guilty...

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