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Of the current likely GOP primary crop, who's your presidential preference?

Donald Trump
45
13%
Ron DeSantis
49
14%
Nikki Haley
9
3%
Mike Pence
9
3%
Chris Sununu
27
8%
None of the Above(I have another Republican in mind)
12
3%
None of the Above(I'm not a Republican)
188
54%
Other
11
3%
 
Total votes : 350

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The Daughters of Gaia
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Postby The Daughters of Gaia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:30 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Abolish the grocery tax and quit complaining about Joe Biden.

I got a better idea, abolish the grocery tax and keep complaining about Biden, since there is everything to complain about Biden.

or raise the grocery tax so that the money can be used for universal healthcare, from cradle to grave

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:31 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Your local government can’t do much. Things that would normally be handled at the local and county in every other state have to go to a statewide referendum.

Your state constitution if I’m not mistaken is one of the longest in the world.


It is.


It should be changed so the entire state doesn't have to vote on local issues.

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Daniel-Franklin wrote:
True, but they'd rather keep the poor in their place. The peasants are revolting, after all.


I wish they were revolting.


Why don't you start this revolution of yours?
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Abolish the grocery tax and quit complaining about Joe Biden.

I got a better idea, abolish the grocery tax and keep complaining about Biden, since there is everything to complain about Biden.


I don’t want complaints. I want solutions. “Old man bad” isn’t going to keep food on the table, keep the bills paid, and keep roofs over heads. The majority of this state did not vote for you to complain. (Unless you are a Rockefeller Republican no vote for you) Do your job.

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The Daughters of Gaia
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Universal healthcare bill

Postby The Daughters of Gaia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am

i have a proposal:

all taxes should be raised on the rich, a wealth cap of £1 million should be enforced in America, and taxes raised on the upper middle class to provide for universal healthcare for all and begin a war on poverty

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Dimetrodon Empire
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am

The Daughters of Gaia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:They have no qualms about standing with the rioters or putting the blame on someone else.

well that's them. we should be above that. if we want to stand up to them, we should use the justice department in a weaponised form against them

Honestly, with the language you are using, I doubt you are a Democrat. You seem to be a Trumpian engaging in a shitty parody act.
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Postby Dylar » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am

The Daughters of Gaia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I got a better idea, abolish the grocery tax and keep complaining about Biden, since there is everything to complain about Biden.

or raise the grocery tax so that the money can be used for universal healthcare, from cradle to grave

ew no. it's hard enough as it is to buy a month's worth of groceries on a $15/hr salary
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Postby The Daughters of Gaia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:33 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
The Daughters of Gaia wrote:well that's them. we should be above that. if we want to stand up to them, we should use the justice department in a weaponised form against them

Honestly, with the language you are using, I doubt you are a Democrat. You seem to be a Trumpian engaging in a shitty parody act.

i don't even live in america, these are my two cents.

they broke the law by storming the capitol, no?
so why aren't they being prosecuted?

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
It is.


It should be changed so the entire state doesn't have to vote on local issues.

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I wish they were revolting.


Why don't you start this revolution of yours?


Sure.

Just one man. But I do hope to see change.

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:33 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:and I, we and us think our rightist, right wing Republican Conservative Policies are better than the Leftist Liberal Democrat Progressive Policies.

Leftist Democrats stick to grievances too. you know the rest of my statement on it by now, so I wont post it this time.

how many brioches should the destitutes buy with their $1, master gms?

Well I looked them up online, and they are good, I like them, and if they cost S 1 dollar I well buy $ them. Thanks for calling me Master GMS, lol :) :rofl:.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:34 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:how many brioches should the destitutes buy with their $1, master gms?

Well I looked them up online, and they are good, I like them, and if they cost S 1 dollar I well buy $ them. Thanks for calling me Master GMS, lol :) :rofl:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:34 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:how many brioches should the destitutes buy with their $1, master gms?

Well I looked them up online, and they are good, I like them, and if they cost S 1 dollar I well buy $ them. Thanks for calling me Master GMS, lol :) :rofl:.


*Unionization Intensifies*

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The Daughters of Gaia
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Postby The Daughters of Gaia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:35 am

Dylar wrote:
The Daughters of Gaia wrote:or raise the grocery tax so that the money can be used for universal healthcare, from cradle to grave

ew no. it's hard enough as it is to buy a month's worth of groceries on a $15/hr salary

raise it to a living wage, not a slave wage of £15 every hour. maybe £25

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Dimetrodon Empire
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:35 am

The Daughters of Gaia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Honestly, with the language you are using, I doubt you are a Democrat. You seem to be a Trumpian engaging in a shitty parody act.

i don't even live in america, these are my two cents.

they broke the law by storming the capitol, no?
so why aren't they being prosecuted?

Prosecuting is not "weaponizing" the justice department. It's bringing criminals to justice like anyone else.

"Weaponizing" is the term they (The Republicans) use.
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The Daughters of Gaia
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Postby The Daughters of Gaia » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:35 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
The Daughters of Gaia wrote:i don't even live in america, these are my two cents.

they broke the law by storming the capitol, no?
so why aren't they being prosecuted?

Prosecuting is not "weaponizing" the justice department. It's bringing criminals to justice like anyone else.

"Weaponizing" is the term they (The Republicans) use.

my aologies, i didn't know the context

regardless, arrest them all. each one who stepped foot on capitol grounds

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:36 am

The Daughters of Gaia wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:Honestly, with the language you are using, I doubt you are a Democrat. You seem to be a Trumpian engaging in a shitty parody act.

i don't even live in america, these are my two cents.

they broke the law by storming the capitol, no?
so why aren't they being prosecuted?

You just said you were a Democrat. You cannot even keep your narrative straight.
Dimetrodon > humans
Shamelessly based on the Safety > Freedom section of Floofybit's sig.

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:37 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Well I looked them up online, and they are good, I like them, and if they cost S 1 dollar I well buy $ them. Thanks for calling me Master GMS, lol :) :rofl:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake

See the so called problem which is not a problem is, we Conservative Republicans and Economic Libertarians support the same goals as Leftist Liberal Democrat Progressives and Real Leftists as Therm calls them, but we strongly disagree with them on how to do it.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:37 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It should be changed so the entire state doesn't have to vote on local issues.



Why don't you start this revolution of yours?


Sure.

Just one man. But I do hope to see change.


What do you want to see changed? Alabama being a red state won't be changing anytime soon.

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Dekerin Domains
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Postby Dekerin Domains » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:38 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
The Daughters of Gaia wrote:i don't even live in america, these are my two cents.

they broke the law by storming the capitol, no?
so why aren't they being prosecuted?

You just said you were a Democrat. You cannot even keep your narrative straight.


To be fair, San Lumen is an avowed Democrat who sounds like a Republican half the time.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:38 am

Dekerin Domains wrote:
Dimetrodon Empire wrote:You just said you were a Democrat. You cannot even keep your narrative straight.


To be fair, San Lumen is an avowed Democrat who sounds like a Republican half the time.


I consider myself a moderate.

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:39 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Sure.

Just one man. But I do hope to see change.


What do you want to see changed? Alabama being a red state won't be changing anytime soon.


I would like to see Medicare Expansion.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:40 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What do you want to see changed? Alabama being a red state won't be changing anytime soon.


I would like to see Medicare Expansion.


Good look getting that in Alabama.

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Postby Dekerin Domains » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:40 am

San Lumen wrote:
Dekerin Domains wrote:
To be fair, San Lumen is an avowed Democrat who sounds like a Republican half the time.


I consider myself a moderate.


One of the few times that I agreed with Barry Goldwater, although from the polar opposite side, is his statement that, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain
"Hasn't this fellow read any books?" - Vladimir Lenin (Patrick Stewart) regarding Alexander Kerensky, Fall of Eagles
'"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." - Karl Marx
"Ya know, if you're gonna send someone to save the world, make sure they like it the way it is." - Xander Cage, XXX

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:41 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I would like to see Medicare Expansion.


Good look getting that in Alabama.


At this rate an infiltration of the Republican Party will be needed.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:42 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Good look getting that in Alabama.


At this rate an infiltration of the Republican Party will be needed.


How do you propose to do this?

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:44 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
At this rate an infiltration of the Republican Party will be needed.


How do you propose to do this?


Find people who support Medicare Expansion (but keep it secret until the time is right ) get them to win as a Republican and then work from there.

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