American Politics 16: After The Ballooning

[Umeria]

No, what's the reason?

so the lower tier officers don't quit out of frustration over never getting past Major.

I guess that makes sense. Doesn't really apply to elected positions though.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

so the lower tier officers don't quit out of frustration over never getting past Major.

I guess that makes sense. Doesn't really apply to elected positions though.

you realise Biden and co has been in charge since the 1970's... right? How much mobility do you think there is in this 50 year long political constipation?

[Umeria]

I guess that makes sense. Doesn't really apply to elected positions though.

you realise Biden and co has been in charge since the 1970's... right? How much mobility do you think there is in this 50 year long political constipation?

My preferred method of preventing that from happening is electing Bernie Sanders instead.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

you realise Biden and co has been in charge since the 1970's... right? How much mobility do you think there is in this 50 year long political constipation?

My preferred method of preventing that from happening is electing Bernie Sanders instead.

…when you realise Bernie is older than Biden.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren is “only” 73. AOC has name recognition, and will be 35 soon enough, but is way too far left for America.

[Umeria]

My preferred method of preventing that from happening is electing Bernie Sanders instead.

…when you realise Bernie is older than Biden.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren is “only” 73. AOC has name recognition, and will be 35 soon enough, but is way too far left for America.

That's kind of my point.

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

…when you realise Bernie is older than Biden.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren is “only” 73. AOC has name recognition, and will be 35 soon enough, but is way too far left for America.

That's kind of my point.

I really hope that AOC doesn’t pull a Nancy Pelosi, and moderate. Remember, in the 80s-90s, she was on the progressive end by a long shot.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

My preferred method of preventing that from happening is electing Bernie Sanders instead.

…when you realise Bernie is older than Biden.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren is “only” 73. AOC has name recognition, and will be 35 soon enough, but is way too far left for America.

Dude, while I strongly disagree with Bernie Sanders Pro Castro, Pro Cuba s Communist, military eternal dictatorship regime s revolution, Pro Communists, Socialist and Leftist economic, social and political views, during the presidential election season, I posted many times, I like Bernie Sanders personally, I think he is a nice guy who means well, but I strongly and respectfully disagree with him on the issues and he has a strong mind for his age. I still stand by my statement of Bernie Sanders, with Pride and Honor.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

That's kind of my point.

I really hope that AOC doesn’t pull a Nancy Pelosi, and moderate. Remember, in the 80s-90s, she was on the progressive end by a long shot.

smh the only thing not "moderate" left in Pelosi is her utter contempt of PRC

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

That's kind of my point.

I really hope that AOC doesn’t pull a Nancy Pelosi, and moderate. Remember, in the 80s-90s, she was on the progressive end by a long shot.

I strongly agree with Austria-Bohemia-Hungary, I, we and us Republicans, don't consider Leftist Democrat Nancy Pelosi moderate in any way. The same for AOC.

The I, we and us, cuts through all the unncessary link words and rinse and repeat.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I really hope that AOC doesn’t pull a Nancy Pelosi, and moderate. Remember, in the 80s-90s, she was on the progressive end by a long shot.

I strongly agree with Austria-Bohemia-Hungary, I, we and us Republicans, don't consider Leftist Democrat Nancy Pelosi moderate in any way.

I don't think Pelosi is moderate because she's a neoliberal shill.
You think Pelosi is a Heiling Stalinist.

We are not the same.

[Free Algerstonia]

I strongly agree with Austria-Bohemia-Hungary, I, we and us Republicans, don't consider Leftist Democrat Nancy Pelosi moderate in any way.

I don't think Pelosi is moderate because she's a neoliberal shill.
You think Pelosi is a Heiling Stalinist.

We are not the same.

great meme abh

[The Astral Mandate]

no matter how many times you sing the 'I'm not a neo-nazi polka' you will be remembered on this forum as a neo-nazi who said neo-nazi things.

I have reasons to believe what I believe, personal experiences and perceptions, even if unpopular. That people won't understand where I'm coming from is regrettable, but there is no use giving up for any reason. I'm staying so long as I'm allowed to be here. I most recently want to follow as much of the Sith Code and ideology as is possible, but without the elements that aren't real like the Dark Side. I just happen to identify with evil more than good. I want a political system that rewards what I value more, which is just lacking in a democracy.

This is a bit late, but:
Huh. I guess they're gone. Maybe something to do with this post?

[San Lumen]

Sometimes people lose primaries. Every cycle at least one member of Congress loses one. In almost all states legislatures a few lose every cycle too.

When was the last time McConnell was voted out? For that matter, Robert Byrd held office for almost 60 years uninterrupted and would hold it now if he was still alive.

So what? If that’s who people want to vote for who are you to judge? It sounds like you want term limits because you disapprove of how people vote.

[San Lumen]

Because that would be ageism. The current governor of Alabama Kay Ivey is 78. Should she not be able to serve?

You seen the bullshit that she talks about?

I’m not a fan of her either but Alabamians liked her enough to elect her to two terms. Why should an age limit have prevented her from running?

[The Rio Grande River Basin]

You seen the bullshit that she talks about?

I’m not a fan of her either but Alabamians liked her enough to elect her to two terms. Why should an age limit have prevented her from running?

Cuz her views beyond somewhere before the Stone Age?

[The Jamesian Republic]

You seen the bullshit that she talks about?

I’m not a fan of her either but Alabamians liked her enough to elect her to two terms. Why should an age limit have prevented her from running?

So much so that they declared her the winner two minute after polls closed.

[Necroghastia]

You seen the bullshit that she talks about?

I’m not a fan of her either but Alabamians liked her enough to elect her to two terms. Why should an age limit have prevented her from running?

really from everyone i've known it's not so much that alabamian republicans like her it's that the other ones are worse

anecdote i know but yeah

[San Lumen]

I’m not a fan of her either but Alabamians liked her enough to elect her to two terms. Why should an age limit have prevented her from running?

Cuz her views beyond somewhere before the Stone Age?

I’m not condoning her views but that is not a reason to prevent someone from running. That’s up to the people to decide.

Have you considered that a majority of the state agrees with her?

[The Jamesian Republic]

I’m not a fan of her either but Alabamians liked her enough to elect her to two terms. Why should an age limit have prevented her from running?

really from everyone i've known it's not so much that alabamian republicans like her it's that the other ones are worse

anecdote i know but yeah

And it’s also because:
The state is like 50% conservative
Alabama Democrats are infighting, and have no resources to do a mass campaign
Alabama has had a historical tendency for one party rule.

[Reorganized Akros]

My preferred method of preventing that from happening is electing Bernie Sanders instead.

…when you realise Bernie is older than Biden.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren is “only” 73. AOC has name recognition, and will be 35 soon enough, but is way too far left for America.

Bernie still has a sharper mind by far than Biden. We got sold a bill of goods. Bernie would have won easier and with coattails. All of the polls told us repeatedly that he had a stronger crossover, populist appeal to independent voters than Biden. Especially since he wasn't a registered Democrat. And he would have fought harder for what he wanted. Would success be guaranteed? No. But he wouldn't have wasted political capital begging Manchin when he could pressure him with his own electorate.

[San Lumen]

…when you realise Bernie is older than Biden.

I mean, Elizabeth Warren is “only” 73. AOC has name recognition, and will be 35 soon enough, but is way too far left for America.

Bernie still has a sharper mind by far than Biden. We got sold a bill of goods. Bernie would have won easier and with coattails. All of the polls told us repeatedly that he had a stronger crossover, populist appeal to independent voters than Biden. Especially since he wasn't a registered Democrat. And he would have fought harder for what he wanted. Would success be guaranteed? No. But he wouldn't have wasted political capital begging Manchin when he could pressure him with his own electorate.

There is absolutely no evidence Sanders would have won. Have you noticed when it was a one on one in the primary Sanders never broke the high thirties?

[Floofybit]

and let's be honest here, you would love that to happen in America so long as the Democrat party is the one that remains in charge. Don't lie

I disagree. The Republican party needs to exist as an excuse to why the Democrats cannot deliver on their promises.

The republican party needs to exist so we can have an actually decent party

[Reorganized Akros]

Bernie still has a sharper mind by far than Biden. We got sold a bill of goods. Bernie would have won easier and with coattails. All of the polls told us repeatedly that he had a stronger crossover, populist appeal to independent voters than Biden. Especially since he wasn't a registered Democrat. And he would have fought harder for what he wanted. Would success be guaranteed? No. But he wouldn't have wasted political capital begging Manchin when he could pressure him with his own electorate.

There is absolutely no evidence Sanders would have won. Have you noticed when it was a one on one in the primary Sanders never broke the high thirties?

Inside a partisan primary, that's true. But poll after poll consistently showed him having a lot of appeal with independents that he didn't necessarily have with highly partisan Democrats like yourself. So his lower stats inside primaries (which still had him at the lead for most of the primary season in 2020) didn't necessarily translate to a poor showing with a general electorate.

[Neutraligon]

When was the last time McConnell was voted out? For that matter, Robert Byrd held office for almost 60 years uninterrupted and would hold it now if he was still alive.

So what? If that’s who people want to vote for who are you to judge? It sounds like you want term limits because you disapprove of how people vote.

You know, dictators have term limits as well...it is called death.

[San Lumen]

There is absolutely no evidence Sanders would have won. Have you noticed when it was a one on one in the primary Sanders never broke the high thirties?

Inside a partisan primary, that's true. But poll after poll consistently showed him having a lot of appeal with independents that he didn't necessarily have with highly partisan Democrats like yourself. So his lower stats inside primaries (which still had him at the lead for most of the primary season in 2020) didn't necessarily translate to a poor showing with a general electorate.

This is your opinion. You have no way of knowing if that appeal would have remained once nominated.