American Politics 16: After The Ballooning

[San Lumen]

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news/pr ... on-monday/

Brett Smiley takes over as Providence mayor

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

There is something wrong with promoting conspiracy theories and outright lies. There was no fraud in Arizona and Lake's case was dismissed. Hobbs is now governor for the next term.

Opinions are not facts but you are incapable of understanding this.

I wonder if the Judge is the Lake case played a little reverse psychology, and only gave her the time of day because he wanted Lake's team to make themselves look like fools.

lol, I agree with you he did it by intent to as you say make them look like fools. He also did it so say, see we gave a chance and you did not prove your case, lol. But Kary Lake did prove election vote fraud in Arizona with the printers and the testimony of that guy. Which they claim to technical problems, irregularities and errors. But election vote fraud is very hard to prove once the vote fraud has happened like in this case. No guilty person is going to testify and say, Yes Your Honor I committed vote fraud and we committed vote fraud, unless the evidence is very easy to prove, and they are trying to get a lighter sentence of guilty.

[San Lumen]

I wonder if the Judge is the Lake case played a little reverse psychology, and only gave her the time of day because he wanted Lake's team to make themselves look like fools.

lol, I agree with you he did it by intent to as you say make them look like fools. He also did it so say, see we gave a chance and you did not prove your case, lol. But Kary Lake did prove election vote fraud in Arizona with the printers and the testimony of that guy. Which they claim to technical problems, irregularities and errors. But election vote fraud is very hard to prove once the vote fraud has happened like in this case. No guilty person is going to testify and say, Yes Your Honor I committed vote fraud and we committed vote fraud, unless the evidence is very easy to prove, and they are trying to get a lighter sentence of guilty.

No should proved absolutely nothing. The judge dismissed her case as she had no proof and there is zero evidence whatsoever of any disenfranchisement.

Are elections only fair to you if a Republican wins? Were any other elections rigged last year?

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

Are elections only fair to you if a Republican wins?

He won’t give a straight answer!

Were any other elections rigged last year?

Your screaming into the wind!

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

lol, I agree with you he did it by intent to as you say make them look like fools. He also did it so say, see we gave a chance and you did not prove your case, lol. But Kary Lake did prove election vote fraud in Arizona with the printers and the testimony of that guy. Which they claim to technical problems, irregularities and errors. But election vote fraud is very hard to prove once the vote fraud has happened like in this case. No guilty person is going to testify and say, Yes Your Honor I committed vote fraud and we committed vote fraud, unless the evidence is very easy to prove, and they are trying to get a lighter sentence of guilty.

No should proved absolutely nothing. The judge dismissed her case as she had no proof and there is zero evidence whatsoever of any disenfranchisement.

Are elections only fair to you if a Republican wins? Were any other elections rigged last year?

Yes there was election vote fraud against President Trump in 2020 and Kary Lake in 2022. All the courts and the US Supreme Court should have listened to the cases instead of dismissing them on Technical grounds, it would have satisfied Trump, and that would have been the end of it, one way or the other. Just like the US Supreme Court listened to Al Gore's election vote fraud charges. I finally answered your questions on Arizona and other elections.

[Based Illinois]

In Qanon’s case Q is a false prophet that has led so many people astray. In Prima’s (New Minneapolis) case it’s fear induced by Kari Lake trying to be female Trump.

You can strongly criticize them all, Kary Lake, Trump, Stacy Abrams, Hillary Clinton, Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi and many more, but they are all American citizens who have the democratic right to challenge and deny election results if they believe it. I am sure that in the future there will be Democrats and Republicans who will cry election vote fraud and deny election results, it is part of politics in the USA and the world.

I and my fellow Republicans love Kary Lake and Trump and there is nothing wrong with it. You know the rest of my comment by now.

Trump is a gifter, he's a leaf in the wind who follows where ever the breeze takes him. The best parts of his presidency was appointing 2 Supreme Court justices and not getting us into a new war. If the bar was any lower, it would be subterranean.

The best thing he ever did for the GOP was end the Raegean/Bush era - but Trumpism is a sad gutless replacement for where principle and patriotism should stand.

The best thing donny could do for everyone is to retire, shut up, and let better men pick up the torch. Until he does that - FUCK TRUMP

[Based Illinois]

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news/providence/brett-smiley-taking-over-as-providence-mayor-on-monday/

Brett Smiley takes over as Providence mayor

I keep forgetting that rhode Island is a state. I feel like they and Delaware should just team up to try and double their irrelevance

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

You can strongly criticize them all, Kary Lake, Trump, Stacy Abrams, Hillary Clinton, Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi and many more, but they are all American citizens who have the democratic right to challenge and deny election results if they believe it. I am sure that in the future there will be Democrats and Republicans who will cry election vote fraud and deny election results, it is part of politics in the USA and the world.

I and my fellow Republicans love Kary Lake and Trump and there is nothing wrong with it. You know the rest of my comment by now.

Trump is a gifter, he's a leaf in the wind who follows where ever the breeze takes him. The best parts of his presidency was appointing 2 Supreme Court justices and not getting us into a new war. If the bar was any lower, it would be subterranean.

The best thing he ever did for the GOP was end the Raegean/Bush era - but Trumpism is a sad gutless replacement for where principle and patriotism should stand.

The best thing donny could do for everyone is to retire, shut up, and let better men pick up the torch. Until he does that - FUCK TRUMP

I thought you was one of us, I must have misread your posts or a response to one of your posts, lol My Bad.

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

No should proved absolutely nothing. The judge dismissed her case as she had no proof and there is zero evidence whatsoever of any disenfranchisement.^{Are elections only fair to you if a Republican wins? Were any other elections rigged last year?}

Yes there was election vote fraud against President Trump in 2020 and Kary Lake in 2022. All the courts and the US Supreme Court should have listened to the cases instead of dismissing them on Technical grounds, it would have satisfied Trump, and that would have been the end of it, one way or the other. Just like the US Supreme Court listened to Al Gore's election vote fraud charges. I finally answered your questions on Arizona and other elections.

False equivalency (and misinterpretation/information), and conspiracy theory!

[Based Illinois]

Trump is a gifter, he's a leaf in the wind who follows where ever the breeze takes him. The best parts of his presidency was appointing 2 Supreme Court justices and not getting us into a new war. If the bar was any lower, it would be subterranean.

The best thing he ever did for the GOP was end the Raegean/Bush era - but Trumpism is a sad gutless replacement for where principle and patriotism should stand.

The best thing donny could do for everyone is to retire, shut up, and let better men pick up the torch. Until he does that - FUCK TRUMP

I thought you was one of us, I must have misread your posts or a response to one of your posts, lol My Bad.

Im a patriot first. I do happen to be Republican aligned ( just registered in fact ), but party politics should only be a vehicle for positive national change. If a party fails ( as ours often does ) its our duty to call out these short comings - and if necessary, abandon a ship too rotted to float. Psychophantic defenses of mediocre conservatives do nothing to improve either the material conditions or moral health of Americans - we have to be honest and critical of ourselves.

Trump may be the bane of the Democrats, but that doesn't make him our guy. He has A LOT of short comings, and America deserves better.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

I thought you was one of us, I must have misread your posts or a response to one of your posts, lol My Bad.

Im a patriot first. I do happen to be Republican aligned ( just registered in fact ), but party politics should only be a vehicle for positive national change. If a party fails ( as ours often does ) its our duty to call out these short comings - and if necessary, abandon a ship too rotted to float. Psychophantic defenses of mediocre conservatives do nothing to improve either the material conditions or moral health of Americans - we have to be honest and critical of ourselves.

Trump may be the bane of the Democrats, but that doesn't make him our guy. He has A LOT of short comings, and America deserves better.

Thanks for the explanations, so I did get a sense somewhere that you were one of us. Ok, so I now consider you an anti Trumper Republican, I am also Pro Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan, how about you?

[Yerachmeal]

I am also Pro Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan

Not for the first time, I'm wondering if you care more about party than policies in who you support. How can you be pro Trump, pro Reagan, Pro Desantis, and pro Kari Lake all at the same time, when they all have very different policies from each other?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I am also Pro Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan

Not for the first time, I'm wondering if you care more about party than policies in who you support. How can you be pro Trump, pro Reagan, Pro Desantis, and pro Kari Lake all at the same time, when they all have very different policies from each other?

Why would their politics matter when one is worshipping two of them like gods?

[Necroghastia]

Not for the first time, I'm wondering if you care more about party than policies in who you support. How can you be pro Trump, pro Reagan, Pro Desantis, and pro Kari Lake all at the same time, when they all have very different policies from each other?

Why would their politics matter when one is worshipping two of them like gods?

Because the doctrines involve calling at least one of the other gods stinky doo doo faces.

[Yerachmeal]

Not for the first time, I'm wondering if you care more about party than policies in who you support. How can you be pro Trump, pro Reagan, Pro Desantis, and pro Kari Lake all at the same time, when they all have very different policies from each other?

Why would their politics matter when one is worshipping two of them like gods?

Not sure if this is a dig on all republicans who son't think Trump should be impeached or just GMS.

[American Legionaries]

I am also Pro Ron DeSantis and Ronald Reagan

Not for the first time, I'm wondering if you care more about party than policies in who you support. How can you be pro Trump, pro Reagan, Pro Desantis, and pro Kari Lake all at the same time, when they all have very different policies from each other?

Perhaps they conflict in areas GMS doesn't consider important?

[Yerachmeal]

Not for the first time, I'm wondering if you care more about party than policies in who you support. How can you be pro Trump, pro Reagan, Pro Desantis, and pro Kari Lake all at the same time, when they all have very different policies from each other?

Perhaps they conflict in areas GMS doesn't consider important?

Making all abortion criminalized (Lake) vs allowing for rape and incest (Trump) vs allowing for 15 weeks (Desantis) is unimportant? Putting cameras that also has sound in schools is unimportant? Take a look at Lake's views https://www.12news.com/article/news/ver ... 78902b8c6e and see how well Lake's views align with Trump and Desantis.

[American Legionaries]

Perhaps they conflict in areas GMS doesn't consider important?

Making all abortion criminalized (Lake) vs allowing for rape and incest (Trump) vs allowing for 15 weeks (Desantis) is unimportant? Putting cameras that also has sound in schools is unimportant? Take a look at Lake's views https://www.12news.com/article/news/ver ... 78902b8c6e and see how well Lake's views align with Trump and Desantis.

I'm fully aware of Kari Lake's views, and if someone doesn't consider abortion an issue of importance, those differences would hardly matter to them, would they?

[Yerachmeal]

Making all abortion criminalized (Lake) vs allowing for rape and incest (Trump) vs allowing for 15 weeks (Desantis) is unimportant? Putting cameras that also has sound in schools is unimportant? Take a look at Lake's views https://www.12news.com/article/news/ver ... 78902b8c6e and see how well Lake's views align with Trump and Desantis.

I'm fully aware of Kari Lake's views, and if someone doesn't consider abortion an issue of importance, those differences would hardly matter to them, would they?

All they'd care about is party registration.

[Neutraligon]

Why would their politics matter when one is worshipping two of them like gods?

Not sure if this is a dig on all republicans who son't think Trump should be impeached or just GMS.

I believe it is mostly focused on GMS and those like him, who place party above actual doctrine. There is a reason I said earlier that I do not understand why GMS has issues with Castro when he wants Trump to act as Castro did, only for the right wing. But then, GMS did admit that his main issue with Castro was that his family lost all their wealth....

[San Lumen]

No should proved absolutely nothing. The judge dismissed her case as she had no proof and there is zero evidence whatsoever of any disenfranchisement.

Are elections only fair to you if a Republican wins? Were any other elections rigged last year?

Yes there was election vote fraud against President Trump in 2020 and Kary Lake in 2022. All the courts and the US Supreme Court should have listened to the cases instead of dismissing them on Technical grounds, it would have satisfied Trump, and that would have been the end of it, one way or the other. Just like the US Supreme Court listened to Al Gore's election vote fraud charges. I finally answered your questions on Arizona and other elections.

Where is the proof? Why was this evidence not presented in court? To pull off such a scheme someone would have come forward. The cases were dismissed because they had no proof.

It’s simply not possible to rig an election on the scale you allege. No election worker could get away with it.

[American Legionaries]

I'm fully aware of Kari Lake's views, and if someone doesn't consider abortion an issue of importance, those differences would hardly matter to them, would they?

All they'd care about is party registration.

Party registration generally carries with it some degree of policy position homogeneity.

For example with abortions, all of those candidates want to restrict abortions beyond what's presently restricted, so while they may differ on how far they want, the people wh agree with Lake are still likely to see Trump or DeSantis as improvements.

[Neutraligon]

All they'd care about is party registration.

Party registration generally carries with it some degree of policy position homogeneity.

For example with abortions, all of those candidates want to restrict abortions beyond what's presently restricted, so while they may differ on how far they want, the people wh agree with Lake are still likely to see Trump or DeSantis as improvements.

However, those who agree to the 15 week thing may not see Lake as an improvement.

[New-Minneapolis]

Yes there was election vote fraud against President Trump in 2020 and Kary Lake in 2022. All the courts and the US Supreme Court should have listened to the cases instead of dismissing them on Technical grounds, it would have satisfied Trump, and that would have been the end of it, one way or the other. Just like the US Supreme Court listened to Al Gore's election vote fraud charges. I finally answered your questions on Arizona and other elections.

Where is the proof? Why was this evidence not presented in court? To pull off such a scheme someone would have come forward. The cases were dismissed because they had no proof.

It’s simply not possible to rig an election on the scale you allege. No election worker could get away with it.

Trump supporters like GMS think it's the court's responsibility to find and prove the fraud, not the accuser's responsibility

[American Legionaries]

Party registration generally carries with it some degree of policy position homogeneity.

For example with abortions, all of those candidates want to restrict abortions beyond what's presently restricted, so while they may differ on how far they want, the people wh agree with Lake are still likely to see Trump or DeSantis as improvements.

However, those who agree to the 15 week thing may not see Lake as an improvement.

True, but the point is that differences in policy don't disqualify mutual support. Especially when we're talking intraparty variance vs interparty variance.