American Politics 16: After The Ballooning

[Apocalyptic Haven]

Radical right? Really? That's so far from my politics as to be ridiculous. My politics are a mostly leftist brand of populism with some conservative views on issues such as guns. Also, we're already living in an authoritarian state. I would just trade an authoritarian oligarchy to a brief authoritarian dictatorship on the Roman or maybe the French model (minus the extremes of Robespierre) and return power to the masses after the cleanup period. The days of warmongering stooges of robber barons controlling the media and gate-keeping primaries to keep out populists would be over.

On the gun issue- it shouldn't be viewed in "conservative" or "leftist" terms. Guns are not a partisan or ideological issue, imo.

I am sympathetic to most of your views. The main concern with the "brief authoritarian dictatorship" is that we simply cannot be sure whether this dictatorship would be "brief".

An understandable worry, I grant you. Sadly, the only person that I trust with that kind of power is myself, but I can understand if others disagree.

[San Lumen]

Tell me whose not a supposed corporate shrill or establishment to you? At this point it seems like its just about anyone in office.

Because, outside of people like Bernie, it basically is everyone in office. The system is unsalvageable by electoral means.

No it isn't. The sweeping generalizations are maddening. You have no argument. Everyone sucks is not an answer. If you want things to change vote or run office.

I look forward to seeing on the news your revolution. When is it starting?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Radical right? Really? That's so far from my politics as to be ridiculous. My politics are a mostly leftist brand of populism with some conservative views on issues such as guns. Also, we're already living in an authoritarian state. I would just trade an authoritarian oligarchy to a brief authoritarian dictatorship on the Roman or maybe the French model (minus the extremes of Robespierre) and return power to the masses after the cleanup period. The days of warmongering stooges of robber barons controlling the media and gate-keeping primaries to keep out populists would be over.

On the gun issue- it shouldn't be viewed in "conservative" or "leftist" terms. Guns are not a partisan or ideological issue, imo.

I am sympathetic to most of your views. The main concern with the "brief authoritarian dictatorship" is that we simply cannot be sure whether this dictatorship would be "brief".

While guns are slowly becoming less of a partisan issue (minority groups and leftists are among the fastest growing groups of gun owners in recent years) we still have quite some time to go before it really reaches that point. Especially with folks like SL running the Democratic Party, they have their head so far in the sand it'll take a long while to change anything.

[Apocalyptic Haven]

Because, outside of people like Bernie, it basically is everyone in office. The system is unsalvageable by electoral means.

No it isn't. The sweeping generalizations are maddening. You have no argument. Everyone sucks is not an answer. If you want things to change vote or run office.

I look forward to seeing on the news your revolution. When is it starting?

I'm not planning one. It will happen organically.

[Greater Cesnica]

The overwhelming majority of elected representatives at the national level are either bought and paid for, or otherwise acting from self-interest, not in the interest of the People.

Change the record DJ. this tune is old.

Is this person a corporate shrill or establishment to you? He is the youngest member of Congress at 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Frost

Sure he is. March for Our Lives is a disarmament organization whose ultimate policy objectives are antithetical to my worldview. Also, no one becomes a Democrat House member (on the national level) without acquiescing to corporate aims and desires at some point.

If he was a Republican and a former director of, say, the NRA, or GOA for that matter, I would think no different of him. I have no respect for either party.

[San Lumen]

No it isn't. The sweeping generalizations are maddening. You have no argument. Everyone sucks is not an answer. If you want things to change vote or run office.

I look forward to seeing on the news your revolution. When is it starting?

I'm not planning one. It will happen organically.

By who?

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

Tell me whose not a supposed corporate shrill or establishment to you? At this point it seems like its just about anyone in office.

The overwhelming majority of elected representatives at the national level are either bought and paid for, or otherwise acting from self-interest, not in the interest of the People.

Seriously, am I the only one who knows: call it (what it is) - Regulatory capture!

[San Lumen]

Change the record DJ. this tune is old.

Is this person a corporate shrill or establishment to you? He is the youngest member of Congress at 25.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Frost

Sure he is. March for Our Lives is a disarmament organization whose ultimate policy objectives are antithetical to my worldview. Also, no one becomes a Democrat House member (on the national level) without acquiescing to corporate aims and desires at some point.

If he was a Republican and a former director of, say, the NRA, or GOA for that matter, I would think no different of him. I have no respect for either party.

You are ridiculous. By your logic no one isn't establishment or a corporate shrill.

[Apocalyptic Haven]

I'm not planning one. It will happen organically.

By who?

The masses. Once they're frustrated enough.

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

No it isn't. The sweeping generalizations are maddening. You have no argument. Everyone sucks is not an answer. If you want things to change vote or run office.

I look forward to seeing on the news your revolution. When is it starting?

I'm not planning one. It will happen organically.

Like the Volk or Narods?

[Greater Cesnica]

You are ridiculous.

Coming from you, that is a badge of honor.

To the sig it goes!

[San Lumen]

You are ridiculous.

Coming from you, that is a badge of honor.

To the sig it goes!

Tell me who do you want to run. Who is your ideal candidate?

[Greater Cesnica]

Coming from you, that is a badge of honor.

To the sig it goes!

Tell me who do you want to run. Who is your ideal candidate?

An independent who has a populist agenda that emphasizes gun rights, civil liberties, increasing domestic production and jobs (especially bringing back outsourced jobs), and provides for the working class, both in urban AND rural areas.

Also: no more foreign wars! No support for the military-industrial complex! No subsidies to multi-national corporations, or major corporations that are perfectly capable of handling their own finances!

[Eahland]

Sure he is. March for Our Lives is a disarmament organization whose ultimate policy objectives are antithetical to my worldview. Also, no one becomes a Democrat House member (on the national level) without acquiescing to corporate aims and desires at some point.

If he was a Republican and a former director of, say, the NRA, or GOA for that matter, I would think no different of him. I have no respect for either party.

You are ridiculous. By your logic no one isn't establishment or a corporate shrill.

The reason it's "the establishment" is that the large majority of people in power are part of it. That's what makes it the establishment. They're the establishment because they're part of the established power structure. This is basic definition stuff here.

[San Lumen]

You are ridiculous. By your logic no one isn't establishment or a corporate shrill.

The reason it's "the establishment" is that the large majority of people in power are part of it. That's what makes it the establishment. They're the establishment because they're part of the established power structure. This is basic definition stuff here.

whose not establishment? Does someone become it once in power or in power for certain period of time?

[San Lumen]

Tell me who do you want to run. Who is your ideal candidate?

An independent who has a populist agenda that emphasizes gun rights, civil liberties, increasing domestic production and jobs (especially bringing back outsourced jobs), and provides for the working class, both in urban AND rural areas.

Also: no more foreign wars! No support for the military-industrial complex! No subsidies to multi-national corporations, or major corporations that are perfectly capable of handling their own finances!

Are there not people who run on this already? why don't you do it? Politicians don't fall from the sky from another reality.

[Celritannia]

So, you want to pretend that there isn’t an irredeemably corrupt political establishment that essentially controls both parties through a variety of methods, including propaganda and misinformation? That’s your choice, but history won’t be kind. Assuming that enough people survive to write history.

I’m not going to pretend anything because everything you said is untrue.

Yet I provided evidence the US is an oligarchy where money is required to run in elections.

Do you even know what the establishment is?

[Washington Resistance Army]

An independent who has a populist agenda that emphasizes gun rights, civil liberties, increasing domestic production and jobs (especially bringing back outsourced jobs), and provides for the working class, both in urban AND rural areas.

Also: no more foreign wars! No support for the military-industrial complex! No subsidies to multi-national corporations, or major corporations that are perfectly capable of handling their own finances!

Are there not people who run on this already? why don't you do it? Politicians don't fall from the sky from another reality.

There is pretty much nobody who runs on this platform, no. The GOP and Dems are very selective on which rights they want to protect, for example.

[Ifreann]

An independent who has a populist agenda that emphasizes gun rights, civil liberties, increasing domestic production and jobs (especially bringing back outsourced jobs), and provides for the working class, both in urban AND rural areas.

Also: no more foreign wars! No support for the military-industrial complex! No subsidies to multi-national corporations, or major corporations that are perfectly capable of handling their own finances!

Are there not people who run on this already? why don't you do it? Politicians don't fall from the sky from another reality.

Why don't you run instead of going online to complain that other people won't run?

[San Lumen]

Are there not people who run on this already? why don't you do it? Politicians don't fall from the sky from another reality.

There is pretty much nobody who runs on this platform, no. The GOP and Dems are very selective on which rights they want to protect, for example.

You change who is elected by voting and if you don't like whose running go run yourself. No one is saying start with Governor or Senator.

[Celritannia]

There is pretty much nobody who runs on this platform, no. The GOP and Dems are very selective on which rights they want to protect, for example.

You change who is elected by voting and if you don't like whose running go run yourself. No one is saying start with Governor or Senator.

If only this actually helped, or even worked. Such naivety.

[San Lumen]

You change who is elected by voting and if you don't like whose running go run yourself. No one is saying start with Governor or Senator.

If only this actually helped, or even worked. Such naivety.

https://runforsomething.medium.com/run- ... 9535831892

here you go.

[Washington Resistance Army]

There is pretty much nobody who runs on this platform, no. The GOP and Dems are very selective on which rights they want to protect, for example.

You change who is elected by voting and if you don't like whose running go run yourself. No one is saying start with Governor or Senator.

Dope, maybe in 70 years when we're all dying from climate change maybe this will finally pay off and the Dems will change their mind on a topic.

[Greater Cesnica]

If only this actually helped, or even worked. Such naivety.

https://runforsomething.medium.com/run- ... 9535831892

here you go.

Do you think that RFS would actually support a candidate who ran with my policy positions?

[Celritannia]

If only this actually helped, or even worked. Such naivety.

https://runforsomething.medium.com/run- ... 9535831892

here you go.

Bread crumbs compared to a feast. Nice try.