Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:00 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Well maybe one of the leaders will become popular in prison and then sweep to election victory.
A good case to haul them out before a firing squad, actually!
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Well maybe one of the leaders will become popular in prison and then sweep to election victory.
Saiwania wrote:There is no requirement that the Fourth Reich be a carbon copy of the NSDAP (if one does come about), only that it be illiberal like the previous three Reichs were.
It can't be stopped but only delayed. I approve of the noble efforts of restoring an empire if democracy has failed- which we have abundant evidence of it's mediocrity.
Nora Xent wrote:Honestly if they didn't get arrested and actually tried to overthrow the government, they probably would have been gunned down by federal troops. So this is the best outcome.
Sordhau wrote:Nora Xent wrote:Honestly if they didn't get arrested and actually tried to overthrow the government, they probably would have been gunned down by federal troops. So this is the best outcome.
...No, Fascist insurrectionists being gunned down by federal troops is definitely the better outcome.
El Lazaro wrote:Kerwa wrote:I’m not really familiar with the details of Qanon - other than it was a troll of boomers that got vastly out of hand - but I didn’t think it had anything to do with Germany.
QAnon conspiracy theories have striking similarities with early 20th century anti-Semitic media—it’s likely either sourced from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or from Nazi propaganda based on the text. Given the role of neo-Nazis in creating the post-Cold War white nationalist movement, it’s not as surprising as it first appears. Since Germany prohibits explicit Nazi propaganda, it’s possible that foreign derivatives like American neofascism are more influential than German Nazism in the country.
Sordhau wrote:Nora Xent wrote:Honestly if they didn't get arrested and actually tried to overthrow the government, they probably would have been gunned down by federal troops. So this is the best outcome.
...No, Fascist insurrectionists being gunned down by federal troops is definitely the better outcome.
Sordhau wrote:Nora Xent wrote:Honestly if they didn't get arrested and actually tried to overthrow the government, they probably would have been gunned down by federal troops. So this is the best outcome.
...No, Fascist insurrectionists being gunned down by federal troops is definitely the better outcome.
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Is this Heinrich XIII even in the line of succession to the former German throne?
Saiwania wrote:Objectively speaking, should Germany's present government be overthrown? I would say yes, the nation hasn't done well under them. Reopening coal power plants because they thought solar and wind to be more capable than nuclear? Letting the worst sort of immigration to occur?
It is too much indignity to bear. But unfortunately, it isn't currently a given that any replacement government will prove as capable or competent.
The North Polish Union wrote:Interesting that this happens right after Scholz declared his intent to expand Germany's military and said that "Germans are intent on becoming the guarantor of European security"
Let's note that the Reuters article in the OP notes that several of those arrested were active service and reservists for the "Bundeswehr's KSK elite force, which has been overhauled in recent years due to a number of far-right incidents."
Germany attempting to more fully remilitarize while their military elite forces are overrun by political extremism? Who could have expected it!?
I'm sure everyone here is looking forward to the Germans guaranteeing European security. They have such a good past and former record of doing it well.
Crepuscular Zikrox wrote:25 random guys were not going to coup an entire government. I think they were just larping.
The North Polish Union wrote:Interesting that this happens right after Scholz declared his intent to expand Germany's military and said that "Germans are intent on becoming the guarantor of European security"
Saiwania wrote:Objectively speaking, should Germany's present government be overthrown? I would say yes, the nation hasn't done well under them. Reopening coal power plants because they thought solar and wind to be more capable than nuclear? Letting the worst sort of immigration to occur?
It is too much indignity to bear. But unfortunately, it isn't currently a given that any replacement government will prove as capable or competent.
Platoon of Peace wrote:Good that they shut them down before it got any worse. I don't know if they were actually gonna be able to do anything, but glad that we didn't need to find out.